“Infowars motor mouth Alex Jones has issued a ‘never surrender’ battle cry to his army of alt-right followers after a string of tech giants hammered him over his controversial views,” Ryan Parry reports for The Daily Mail. “In an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com he launched an expletive-laden laden rant claiming the Democratic Party staged the ‘desperate’ onslaught and says he’s a ‘sacrificial lamb’ who has been likened to Hitler for the purposes of a wider attack on free speech.”
“What’s more he claims the publicity surrounding the action taken by the likes of YouTube, Facebook and Apple – who have blocked his content and removed his channels – has gained him millions of subscribers – not lost him followers,” Parry reports. “Jones claims 5.6million people have subscribed to the Infowars newsletter and free podcast in the past 48 hours.”
Parry reports, “Branding what’s happened ‘bull***t’, the 44-year-old Texan said… ‘Because I play devil’s advocate, because I play both sides, they’ve taken me out of context, they are using me as a test case to try to bring an EU style web censorship. They’ve got mainline Democratic senators saying they ought to restrict Fox News, Tucker Carlson, Matt Drudge, the President himself. They are misrepresenting what I’ve said and done and are using that to set a precedent for internet-wide de-platforming, censorship beyond what Russia does, what China does, ahead of the midterms (election). The whole thing is fake… The good news is Infowars has had the highest traffic it’s ever had – 5.6 million new subscribers in the past 48 hours – and so has my radio show.'”
Read more in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Hoo boy. What was that we wrote when Apple yanked the links to Jones’ podcasts? Oh, right:
Of course, the inherent danger of censorship is that you make the censored more alluring by elevating their musings into ideas too “dangerous” to hear. – MacDailyNews, August 6, 2018
Always being right is both a boon and a curse, but we’re unfailingly happy to share our gift with you, dear readers. 😉
SEE ALSO:
Tim Cook sends Mark Zuckerberg, YouTube, and Spotify scrambling over Infowars’ Alex Jones – August 8, 2018
Jack Dorsey explains why Twitter isn’t banning Alex Jones and Infowars – August 8, 2018
Infowars’ Alex Jones blasts Apple, Google, others; warns on internet censorship – August 7, 2018
Apple’s ‘Infowars’ move thrusts tech giant into the debate over censoring content on internet platforms – August 6, 2018
Apple removes most of Alex Jones’ Infowars podcasts from iTunes Store – August 6, 2018
Apple signs on to full page ‘open letter’ ad urging President Trump to keep U.S. in Paris Agreement on climate change – June 1, 2017
And what great percent of those are real? In other words, how many are from the Russian bots?
Russian Bots? Here we go…
Can’t accept that someone has a different opinion to you on the internet? They must be a Russian Bot.
Pfft.
👍…Took the words right out of my mouth
Most hateful comments and behavior come from the left… ( it been more than evident and documented in the past few years ). yet those hypocrites try to pin it on the right….. they are banking on the freeloader lemmings to jump on board… and ohhh boy do we have a stampede of freeloaders.
Political landscape in US is in Shambles and absolutely Dismal .. thanks to the big divider.. the all talk no walk the planted puppet brainwasher… the ‘O’ dude.
And lemming are blindly runnig off the cliff ….
The funniest irony is the the most ‘nondemocratic’, ‘close minded’ and ‘intolerant’ people have a party named ‘Democratic’… and are associated with being ‘Progressive’ ‘Liberals’….. LOL
Talking about misnomers, hypocrisy, and deceit ……and the poor brainwashed lemmings that blindly fall in their trap !
Sad… worrisome… and dangerous… Very !
You hit on all the important points describing the dangerous left and their hypocrisy.
Awesome post …
None of them are real, he’s an entertainer and it’s NOT his job to indicate reality in any way. In fact, I can report he actually obtained 10 million subscribers, he’s just reporting the lower number so the deep state doesn’t take him out tomorrow, they have that power you know.
Q told me.
“None of them are real,”
Another one. Where is your proof, hmmm? …
Why would I tell you? For all I know, you’re a deep state informant keeping tabs on MDN for the shadow government. All the information you need is out there, you just have to want it bad enough.
Q will enlighten you.
Thanks for the LOL belly laugh …
Where is your proof that a percentage of those are “Russian bots?”
Hate speech yesterday,
shocking, disrespectful or sensational today,
not ‘main stream’ tomorrow.
Facebook has banned a commercial for “shocking, disrespectful or sensational” content.
That didn’t take long.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/08/06/facebook-blocks-congressional-candidate-elizabeth-hengs-video-ad-about-communist-crimes/
If he’s being censored, how is it he has MORE subscribers. That’s the exact opposite effect of censorship. The web is still free, nobody’s shutting him up. But if you agree to certain terms in exchange for distributing your content, and you violate those terms, you have to expect consequences. No one has an obligation to help this guy get his message out.
The point for Apple was never to censor Jones. It was to avoid complicity in distributing his loathsome message.
I am going to ask you again, prove what Apple was doing apologist.
Since you are going to guess and offer opinion as fact, gee what a surprise, I’ll gladly clear it up for clueless TXUSER.
Apple fully intended to CENSOR FREE SPEECH! Got it?
That’s easy when it comes to a liberal company denigrating the right. And your pathetic fanboy obfuscation will NOT change the facts. Hard to believe how DISHONEST you are.
On second thought, NOT! …
Look up the definition of hypocrisy and double standard fake conservative…
Are you kidding? Comments on this site are practically 100% OPINIONS. ESPECIALLY those comments that seem to be stating a ‘fact’.
I have no duty to provide additional evidence that Apple is telling the truth about their motivation; I simply choose to believe them. If you want to say they are lying, the burden is on you to provide evidence of that.
Similarly, I have no duty to provide evidence that Apple is free to control its own platform; I simply choose to believe that the Constitution protects their property and free-expression rights from government interference. When you claim that Alex Jones has a right (constitutional, legal, or moral) to make Apple post links to his podcasts, the burden is on you to cite some recognized authority for that.
It is becoming increasingly clear that you not only believe that people like Alex Jones and You-Know-Who have the right to hold whatever opinions they like (which is true), or even that they have the right to make up “facts” that are demonstrably false (which is not true), but also that the rest of us have no right to oppose them. Sorry, but we do not have a duty to actively assist people who have literally profited from attacking the parents of dead children. Perhaps we have a duty to oppose them.
If you disagree, I would be interested in hearing your reasons. “Reasons” includes rational evidence grounded in the real world. It does not include personal insults.
Might want to add that it doesn’t include requests, commands and orders cause several STFU missiles have recently been launched. None of them have hit of course, a testimony to the effectiveness of the “aim for Bin hit Saddam” guidance system but several more of them might be launched.
As per usual, your posts are great. Keep up the great work. Oh that’s an encouragement, far be it for me to tell you what to do, free will and all that.
This is becoming routine for you, whining for acceptance …
“I have no duty to provide additional evidence that Apple is telling the truth about their motivation”
Translation: I have no proof.
Once again was called out for peddling opinion as fact and could not provide supporting evidence to prove anything.
“I simply choose to believe them.”
Believe what? Please provide the Apple statement “you choose to believe.” I’m calling your bluff.
The rest of the post is more of the same — defensive deflection and opinions …
Once again I called for evidence and once again you responded with insults. Point made.
Try the quote from Apple in the Reuters story on the InfoWars app, posted today on MDN.
Once again, I called your bluff and once again you cannot provide “evidence.”
Case closed …
Well that’s 5.6 million people that would have likely never bothered hearing what that guy had to say. Congrats Censensorship! Another Failure.
Failure? What failure has ‘censorship’ wrought here?
Those 5.6 million were not created by these moves, they were already there, ready to be led by the nose to Infowars, driven by fake outrage.
Good, keep all the conspiracy theorists, flat earth era, UFO abductees et al in one corralled space where they can do themselves all the harm they desire without lowering the tone everywhere else where, I’m sure, everyone else will not miss their absence.
I think the word you are looking for is “deplorables” – Hillary. I love liberals you make life fun.
Yes, I’m sure you find it fun putting words in people’s mouths. Also, Hillary didn’t invent that word, and when she used it, it wasn’t to describe flat earthers and conspiracy theorists.
I know you are correct – Hilary has never produced anything but an offspring she wanted to abort. Read a book.
Maybe try making sense. I never claimed to like Hillary, just stating a fact. Stop being so triggered by random people on the internet.
Who in Hades ever said candidate Clinton “invented” that word- Stop putting words in others mouths.
What everyone rightfully said, was that candidate Clinton “used” that word.
Revisionism much?
No revisionism. It’s just so overused in reference to her that it’s getting sickening. She wasn’t calling all Trump supporters deplorable. She was specifically talking about the racists/nazis/white nationalists that overwhelmingly support Trump. And I’d have to agree that those people are deplorable.
No, this proves that this was never censorship.
Jones is proving he many options and Apple, and others, to not need to leave themselves legally vulnerable being complicit to Jones’ threats.
Precisely. Censorship works in mysterious ways and this time helped the person being censored — grand poetic justice!
That said, if the numbers hold that is an absolutely stunning number in two days. Quite possible both achievements are all-time records. #ironydesert
The NRA was founded in 1871 and just this year reported 5 million members. So, please keep it up until the elections liberal political tech firms it seems your censorship practices are the most effective recruiting tool around these days …
Well at least GoeB understood the point of my post.
Sick monster. Sick country.
No argument there, a war mongering nation for sure, just look how they are at each other’s throats these days. Bright side though, as long as they are fighting each other the peace loving nations can enjoy a break.
LOL, Australia, a peace-loving nation!?!
I refer to the Global Peace Index for that, and Australia is in 13th spot overall. Personally their island could sink and it would not bother me one bit but they are considered a peace loving nation. Hard to believe I know.
Have you ever, I mean seriously, actually had any idea what the screwball hell you’re talking about, or does your flavor of hate just auto-spew at the flick of a button?
I sure do and it’s not hate, it’s pity, pity to see such a great country lose its way.
I think it’s absolutely sickening to see such a once great nation embrace torture as it did. Guantanamobushobummertrumpo on the Bay resort still open? That’s sick.
Still looking for a weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, killing lots and lots of innocents, invading under false pretense and after 15 years that country is still there killing people? That’s sick.
When the status changes, I’ll change. It’s as simple as that.
You are one sick bastard! Get off the USA lawn. Tired of your CRAP and here it comes — STFU! ..,
MDN’s ACTUAL take, not soo long ago…
“Of course, the inherent danger of censorhsip is that you make the censored more alluring by elevating the musings of run-of-the-mill crackpots into ideas too “dangerous” to hear.”
See how “crackpots” used to be there? I’m sure they weren’t referring to Alex…
MDN. Ads are now showing up in the middle of a comment?? Like I posted the ad. F you guys. Fix this shit or I’m gone also.
I get that a lot as well.
Since when do you believe what this screwball says? 5.6mil… I don’t think so.
Apple has become the gaystapo under Tim Cook. Think different – as long as it’s like me.
I wouldn’t say gestapo nor would I may a gay slur in the way you did, but I would say that they have become a self appointed Orwellian Ministry of Truth.
As a gay man that finds Tim Cook’s flavor of politics disgusting I trademark that gay slur…
Super clever slur – made me chuckle – but, you know, it’s an ad hom and demeaning, hence irrational.
“Jones claims 5.6million people have subscribed”
Then why so mad, should be grateful.
Alex Jones lawyers want to make the address’s of the parents of the slaughtered children of Sandy Hook public.
Another example of standard Jones behavior:
Last week, InfoWars posted a video with the caption, “Mark Randazza joins Alex Jones to explain how Alex won his anti-SLAP suit against the Sandy Hook lawsuit levied against him, but he graciously waved the fees he was entitled to be rewarded with.”
The 13-minute video itself contains no such thing. It simply says that Jones has offered to waive the fees IF he wins the currently pending lawsuit. I had somebody earlier today cite the caption against me as evidence that Jones had already won a court judgement against the greedy alleged parents who had wrongfully sued him.
If Apple had linked to that video Podcast with that caption, it would have been helping Jones spread a falsehood.
So, you don’t know if the caption is correct or not? No benefit of a doubt, got it.
Yet you make the leap and immediate rush to judgement:
“If Apple had linked to that video Podcast with that caption, it would have been helping Jones spread a falsehood.”
Apple would be allowing access to free speech, right, wrong, positive or hateful. They could easily issue a blanket disclaimer stating their position. Let the marketplace decide while defending the first amendment and dropping censorship, shall we? …
Yes, I KNOW THAT THE CAPTION IS WRONG! I watched the entire video and it says what I said, not what the caption says. There is no doubt to give anyone the benefit of. There is no “leap to judgement” involved. The lie is directly observable. If you claim otherwise, you are a liar like Jones.
The First Amendment protects unpopular opinions. It does not grant a license to harm other people with deliberate lies about readily discoverable facts. The legal definition of “actual malice” is “reckless disregard for the truth.” The InfoWars caption falsely states as a fact that Jones has already won a lawsuit against the Sandy Hook parents and was entitled to damages. That false statement was aimed at influencing the public, including the jury pool for his multiple pending trials.
If you think that we should “let the marketplace decide” what the truth is, you either don’t know what truth is or you don’t care. Even if Apple were bound by the First Amendment as if it were a government agency, it was justified in not publishing the lie, because it could have been liable for the foreseeable consequences. In fact, it is not a government agency, so it has no duty to spread hateful opinions, either. That isn’t censorship, it is protecting your commercial good will, the biggest asset that any business possesses.
Another definition: A socialist is someone who believes that the government should control the means of production. When you advocate the nationalization of Apple and other social media, you are acting as a socialist, GeoB, not as a conservative.
“Yes, I KNOW THAT THE CAPTION IS WRONG!”
I did not watch the video, no interest in the guy. Was simply replying to what you said, and misread so a simple misunderstanding. Relax.
The second part of my post is the meat of the matter. You did not comment on it. Your normal MO is sift through to point out something wrong, ignore the rest and then launch a tedious lecture fest according to liberal orthodoxy.
Very aware of the details in the First Amendment as it applies to free speech and unpopular speech.
I am certainly no defender of the crap out of Jones mouth, he has no credibility with me and handled the Sandy Hook debacle badly and is insensitive to the families.
That said, will defend his right to say it as long as it is legal and hurts no one.
I don’t need a lecture from you on Apple’s legal status and there legal obligations in this debate. Well known to me for decades and posted many times before, guess you missed it.
“In fact, it is not a government agency, so it has no duty to spread hateful opinions, either. That isn’t censorship, it is protecting your commercial
good will, the biggest asset that any business possesses.”
Yes, it is “censorship.” Everyone knows it with the exception of Apple apologists and the clueless left, like you.
Legally, Apple can censor and discriminate against right wing conspiracies all day long. Put on your big boy pants, suck it up and call it for what it is. But honestly, never going to happen.
But the fact remains that Apple allows hate speech, far, far worse from the LEFT — and then censors only the RIGHT — is the biggest hypocrisy of our time. SJW Cook’s legacy: censoring right hate speech and selling more foul and disturbing hate speech from the left for profit. How far you have taken Apple, Tim.
You just don’t see it and I don’t care how loud and long the apologists deny it. Personally, I will not purchase from iTunes indefinitely until fair and balanced practices are enacted that give equal treatment to both sides …
I guess we are at an impasse. You want to call me a leftist even while you are calling on Big Government to crack down on Apple’s use of its own property. You claim I am opposed to free speech even while you want Apple to be forced to publish lies that have already incited to violence.
Clearly, we do not share a common intellectual universe. We both want to make America great again, but my dream of a country where we all have equal opportunities regardless of race, sex, or ethnicity is your worst nightmare. A return to the early 1950s is one of mine.
“I guess we are at an impasse.”
Yes, for three reasons: you refuse to answer my posts directly and go off on tangents and deflection; you put words in my mouth misrepresenting my beliefs and positions; you call me a liar and accuse me of being a socialist (the best laugh I’ve had this year).
Sterling fresh example:
“Big Government to crack down on Apple’s use of its own property.”
For the SECOND time, stop putting words in my mouth! Never said that nor do support it.
There you go again, TWICE in the same post!
“but my dream of a country where we all have equal opportunities regardless of race, sex, or ethnicity is your worst nightmare.”
My worst nightmare?!?!?! No other way to say it, you LIE.
See? Understand? Capisce paisan?
Because you are such a snide elitist know it all who keeps mischaracterizing me, selective reading according to your narrow stereotyping and political beliefs, will NOT admit you are wrong, forget an apology I’ll win the lottery first, and until you stop, yes the “impasse” stands.
If you read this far, which I highly doubt — blowing off my post in 3… 2… 1…