This is Apple’s iPhone ultrasonic under-screen fingerprint scanner – and why you can’t have it

“Apple is, or at least was, working on an ultrasonic under-screen fingerprint scanner,” Luke Edwards reports for T3. “The bad news is that it may never be something we see in an iPhone.”

“The ultrasonic in-screen fingerprint scanner was leaked by Korea’s Chosun in the form of a patent,” Edwards reports. “While current under-screen fingerprint scanners use light to see the details of a finger, the ultrasonic version is far more accurate – if not more expensive.”

“The reality is that despite Samsung allegedly working on this ultrasonic in-display fingerprint reading tech, Apple likely won’t ever use it,” Edwards reports. “The iPhone X embraced Face ID and ditched Touch ID, saying the new system is 20 times more secure.”

Read more in the full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Fingerprint scanners are passé, as anyone with an iPhone X properly set up for Face ID will attest.


  1. I wish Apple would remember the value of tactile feedback. Your sense of touch can convey a lot of information if you allow it.

    With my old iPod, I could do all sorts of things without taking it out of my pocket – volume, fast forward, next track, ect. With my current phone if I pause a podcast for too long (using the headphone control) I can’t start it up again because the same button brings up Siri instead. (Which doesn’t understand “play” as a command.)

  2. Gen 1 Face ID is inferior to Touch ID in several ways. It’s slower, requires a minimal distance from the face and angle to work and has problems in bright light and with sunglasses. Using 1-Password for example is a clunky, slow process. Touch ID works 99% of the time while Face ID is 90% at best. Hopefully Gen 2 will sort out these annoying problems. At this point the only advantage I see is that it frees up screen space.

    1. For instance, TouchID often fails if your finger/thumb is sweaty or wet. That can be a problem in Houston!

      FaceID seems like a step forward in many ways, since you tend to look at your phone when you want to use it. And I strongly suspect that there will be further advancements in biometric security technologies by Apple and others that will greatly improve security and convenience in the future.

  3. MacDailyNews Take: Fingerprint scanners are passé, as anyone with an iPhone X properly set up for Face ID will attest.

    You have 10 fingers (counting thumbs) and only one face. If they steal your facial data you have no second identity.

    FaceID- fail (epic).

    1. It was shown to be possible to fool TouchID by using a latent fingerprint to mold a latex fingerprint. It was a reasonably involved process, but it was possible. And people leave their fingerprints all over the place.

      To fool FaceID, the perpetrator would not steal your facial data, they would steal your facial geometry. I imagine that a high quality mask developed from a mold of your face would work well enough to spoof FaceID. However, this is not something that is likely to happen casually or by accident (“someone made a mold of my face while I was sleeping – not!).I suppose if you passed out from drugs or alcohol or were tranquilized, then someone could make a mold without your knowing it. But, if someone has access to your face, then they could simply use your face right then without making a mold.

      Anyway, DavGreg, you are a tool. Who are you to call FaceID an epic fail? I suppose that you are a world class innovator with lots of successes under your belt? Thought not.

  4. I liked the finger print just as well as the facial recognition. I don’t find facial recognition to be faster than the fingerprint. To be fair though, the iPhone x is a first generation product – I’m sure it will get better.

    One thing I do miss is the ability to have my wife open my phone with her fingerprint (I know she can use my code). It would be nice to have the option to store an extra set of data for an extra face.

    1. That’s an interesting (and practical) use of TouchID to allow multiple users to securely unlock a single device. I guess the device just thinks it’s a different finger for the same user.

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