A tale of two QuickTimes

“Among the casualties of the impending transition to 64-bit apps is one long-lasting oddity: QuickTime 7 Pro,” Dan Moren writes for Six Colors. “What makes this app so unusual are a few factors. For one thing, it’s one of Apple’s own apps. For another, it was first released in 2005, making it almost 13 years old, though it hasn’t seen an update in about 8 years.”

“But despite its age and the fact that the writing was on the wall for QuickTime 7,” Moren writes, “news that it wouldn’t see an update when macOS makes the jump to all-64-bit-all-the-time sparked some cries of frustration from users, including both myself and Jason [Snell], who have carved out a place in their workflows—and their hearts—for this little anachronism.”

Moren writes, “The biggest reason that people are up in arms about the death of QuickTime 7 Pro is that its successor, QuickTime Player X, never quite filled its shoes when it came to features.”

Read more in the full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Would that QuickTime X gets some of QuickTime 7 Pro’s features before expiring into the 32-bit ether.

Interns: TTK! Prost, everyone!

SEE ALSO:
How to find which apps on your Mac are 32-bit – April 13, 2018
Mac users will start getting 32-bit app warnings today – April 12, 2018
Apple: High Sierra will be last macOS release to support 32-bit apps ‘without compromise’ – June 29, 2017

26 Comments

  1. The fact that Quicktime X was not a complete, full-featured, replacement for Quicktime 7 was a screw-up of inexplicable stupidity. And, yes, that screw-up was on Steve Jobs’ watch. MAKE IT RIGHT, APPLE!

    1. How much effort does it take to give QT X the simple editing features of QT Pro?

      If Apple wants QT to be good for nothing more than viewing video, they should just bake it into the system so any app can be used to view video.

  2. well, one thing people forget that you can run Sierra in Virtual box. So you can extend the app lifespan for a bit longer. and yes I agree QTPro Should be updated wholly for the future.

  3. QuickTime X won’t even play Avid flavored QuickTimes without converting. QuickTime 7 Pro… no problem. Sometimes you just want a simple way to trim a video. Job’s QuickTime X was a disaster from the get go.

  4. QuickTime Player 7 was and is very useful. I use it all the time. Just last week I used an old AppleScript and QT Player 7 to re-code about 500 movies that were originally encoded with Sorenson over 10 years ago. The current QT Player is pretty useless for anything other than viewing.

    1. “The current QT Player is pretty useless for anything other than viewing.”

      I think maybe current Apple management is not aware that their customers do anything other than consume entertainment.

      Lots of things they are not aware of.

  5. I gave up on Quicktime a long time ago. I now rely on FFworks and Handbrake. However it’s a real shame that Apple has got to this stage with something that used to be core software.

  6. I would use QT X if it would simply allow me to take a video and go frame by frame with the arrow keys and select video to delete out of the video multiple times. Last I checked, it works the opposite way, you select the video that you want to keep and cut it out. I think it makes more sense the way I like it and how QT 7 worked. Take a video and select the snippets you want to take out and the end result is the video you want and simply save it.

  7. C’mon Apple! You’re the biggest tech firm in the world.

    Just how much work can it take to make simple, little QT & Pro a 64-bit app? Or give QT X QT 7’s “Pro” features?

    It’s like you guys can’t walk and chew gum at the same time.

    What was that comment “someone” made about “Can’t innovate, my ass!”

    Well?

    1. Looks like I can’t type and chew gum at the same time. Should have been…

      Just how much work can it take to make simple, little QT 7 Pro a 64-bit app? Or give QT X, QT 7’s “Pro” features?

  8. Something very BAD happened to the QuickTime Team at one point. The fact that we still have QuickTime 7 Pro hanging around, that it wasn’t entirely integrated into QuickTime X indicates that critical technology walked out the door at Apple and no one has bothered to make up for it. It was one of the big fat Apple FAILs during the Jobs Era. I continue to find it sad that QuickTime X remains a limping shadow of what QuickTime used to be.

    By now, anyone seriously into video doesn’t bother with hobbled and lame QuickTime X.

    1. I’d be willing to bet supporting that PC product was one reason why it was killed. Having something that allows “Flash” levels of interactivity on a PC platform is just asking to be the vector of a malware attack, and some QuickTime based ads did just that.

      Adobe’s stopped supporting QuickTime since Apple won’t fix the security vulnerabilities in the PC software, so they’re looking for alternatives on that side.

  9. I still use QTP7 regularly to make movies out of a numbered list of images (usually visualistation of simulation images), I’m not sure what I’ll do once it stops working (not sure I like the command line alternatives), probably wlll have to keep a copy of Sierra or eariler running on an old computer.

    QTP7 is a throwback to the golden age of Apple – amazing power hidden behind a user friendly interface

  10. “The biggest reason that people are up in arms about the death of QuickTime 7 Pro is that its successor, QuickTime Player X, never quite filled its shoes when it came to features.”

    Apple meta since Jobs died.

  11. I will bet that 90% of the whining commenters never bothered to spend a minute writing to Apple to voice their concerns about this indispensable product. I don’t like Apple’s shitty decisions and inaction, but maybe they would be different if their biggest fans didn’t love to squeal to eachother on forums that no one at Apple bothers to read and instead put in an ounce of effort to make a differece.

    Despite their faults I have more respect for Apple management for simply not giving a damn what people say and going their own way. Creating a simply and effective program like Quicktime 7 is portrayed as being should be a piece of cake for all of the “Pros” out there who swear that Mac Pros that aren’t user upgradeable are “toys”. It would be a veritable gold mine given all the huge demand there apparently still is.

  12. Writing to Apple about anything relating to computers is a complete waste of time. For example:

    1. Mac Mini
    2. Mac Pro (2019 release date and when was the last one?)
    3. OSX releases (flaky as all get out)

    Two things happened in the last eight or nine years and it was a tale of two Steves. Steve Jobs died and Steve Ballmer was replaced and boy does it show with the respective operating systems.

    I’m not saying that Windows is better than OSX at the moment but Apple needs to more than provide us with more than soothing words or shibboleths. The latter word only works with the most diehard fanboy and I’m long past that stage.

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