Apple, other tech firms to support 17-year-old transgender student’s bathroom choice case

“A number of leading tech firms plan to file a brief in favor of transgender rights in a case due to be heard next month in the Supreme Court, ” Ina Fried reports for Axios.

“Apple has been among those leading the charge on the effort, along with the LGBT group Human Rights Campaign,” Fried reports. “Among the other companies that have signed on are Affirm, Box, Ebay, GitHub, IBM, Microsoft, PayPal, Salesforce, Slack, Tumblr, Yelp, Salesforce, sources said.”

Fried reports, “Facebook and Google are two big ones that have yet to sign on, but names are still being gathered and others may yet join.”

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“In a two-page letter to public schools -on Wednesday], the Trump administration said the Obama-era directive did not provide ‘extensive legal analysis’ of how its position was consistent with Title IX,” CNN Wire reports. “The letter cited ‘significant litigation’ caused by the guidance, showing the need for “due regard” of the role of states and local school districts in shaping education policy.”

CNN Wire reports, “‘As President Trump has clearly stated, he believes policy regarding transgender bathrooms should be decided at the state level,’ the White House said in a statement. ‘The joint decision made today by the Department of Justice and the Department of Education… paves the way for an open and inclusive process to take place at the local level with input from parents, students, teachers and administrators.'”

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“In a separate letter, the deputy solicitor general informed the Supreme Court that the guidance had been withdrawn,” CNN Wire reports. “The court is poised to consider the case of Gavin Grimm.”

“While President Trump’s administration’s new guidance may not stop the case, it could give the justices an off-ramp to send the matter back to the lower court to consider the new guidance,” CNN Wire reports. “The court could also decide to send the case back before arguments.”

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101 Comments

    1. You really don’t get it, do you? Tim doesn’t make the computers. Apple’s employees, a fair number of whom are LGBT, Muslim, or foreign-born, do that. If they (and their friends who also work at the company) are distracted by public policies that make them less effective at doing their jobs, that impacts Apple’s bottom line… which Mr. Cook has a duty to protect. How come all the folks who historically believed in free-market capitalism suddenly think that a capitalist who stands up for his company against government policies that directly harm his industry is engaging in social engineering?

      Were you complaining when Rex Tillerson, as CEO of Exxon-Mobil, stood up against environmental policies he believed were harming his industry? Of course not. The only difference is that you agree with the substance of Exxon’s corporate concerns about public policy but not the substance of Apple’s.

      1. Go explain to your 6 year old why she is sharing the bathrooms with a woman who has a dick.

        The rights of the many outweigh the rights of the few. If trannies don’t like it, they can go to the bathroom at their house.

          1. How self righteous you are. Just because babies are born all dressed up in clothes doesn’t mean that there isn’t a place for nudity.

            Quick arm your and your war mongering nation and invade invade invade until you find those WMD (Women, Men Displayed), destroy them and annihilate the population.

            Here’s proof.

            1. Actually it’s a funny sarcastic comment but I guess that went over your head.

              Interesting how you put it “BTW this statue comes from a civilization where homosexualité was pretty common!”. Maybe you could contrast this by presenting a civilization where homosexuality is totally missing. I can certainly point out a culture where a sense of humor is pretty well non-existent.

            1. D–
              I’m at least bright enough to stay away from public toilets where people are displaying their genitals to children.

              Road Warrior–
              I see your point, but in most of this country nudity is restricted to areas designated for the use of naturists. Toilets in public buildings are not one of those areas. I don’t know that I have ever seen a penis in an American rest room. I don’t look. Apparently D and his six-year old daughter do.

            2. Hey TxUser, I’m glad you got the point. From what I’ve seen of the public toilets in your country they are quite private with individual urinals but this is not the case in some places where a single trough urinal can be used by several people at one. I’ll include a sample below.

              I think it says a lot about how one approaches nudity. You point out that for your country, nudity is restricted to areas designated for the use of naturists but again this is not the case for other nations, like Germany where “there are no explicit legal regulations on clothing in Germany. Nudity on private grounds is considered as legal even if visible from outside.” (wikipedia- Clothing laws by country).

              Some cultures consider nudity not to be such a big deal, that’s their business and how you treat that situation is yours but just because someone does something one way is not a justification to determine that others should do it that way. There is a lot of diversity when it comes to this topic and a lot of options available. I hope your nation finds a viable one.

        1. “The rights of the many outweigh the rights of the few.”

          The Constitution begs to differ. “Majority rules” was never the way it worked.

          Do you also believe that “might makes right”? Because that’s exactly what the statement I quoted means.

    2. Yep. I have used Apple/Mac exclusively since 2001. I’ve probably spent 10-12k on Apple products during that time, but in done. Lecture someone else Timmy. Done with your products and lectures. Phone contract is up in June and no more iPhones for me after 4 in a row. Also on my 3 year cycle to upgrade computers. Not going to be Apple/Mac.. deleting all Apple/Mac bookmarks after this post since I won’t need any Apple/Mac news. Bye.

  1. If apple wants to build transgendered bathrooms that’s great. For the rest of the world if you’re a man use the mens restroom. If you’re a woman use the woman’s restroom.

    1. More and more restaurants and theaters, in civilized countries, have neutral toilets. Doesn’t mean men and women watch each other while pissing!
      It is clean, respectful and there’s room enough to avoid parasites.

    1. Glenn–
      The headline is a LIE. The statement was from the American College of Pediatricians, not the American College of Pediatics.

      For context, the College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) split from the College of Pediatrics (ACP) in 2002 over the issue of adoptions by gay couples. The original Pediatrics group has over 60,000 members. The Pediatrician group claims 500 members. Since a doctor could chose either group, the ACP is clearly about 120 times more credible among practicing physicians.

      The National Association of Social Workers (NASW) described ACPeds as a “small and marginal group” which was “out of step with the research-based position of the AAP and other medical and child welfare authorities.” The American College of Pediatricians has been described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a “hate group”, with “a history of propagating damaging falsehoods about LGBT people.”

      To repeat, you are entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts. The ACP has not done what you claim.

    2. Pure sectarisme and bigotry.
      Do you know that almost one of 10’000 children is born with TWO sexes?
      In narrow minded countries, the doctor (sometimes without telling the parents!) makes a transgender right away after she or he noticed the “anomaly”.

      1. No bigotry at all; just science.

        In standard medical and psychological practice, a child who has a persistent, mistaken belief that is inconsistent with reality is not encouraged in his or her belief. For instance, an anorexic child is not encouraged to lose weight. She is not treated with liposuction; instead, she is encouraged to align her belief with reality – i.e., to see herself as she really is. Indeed, this approach is not just a good guide to sound medical practice. It is common sense.

        Until recently this was precisely how gender dysphoric children were treated. Dr. Kenneth Zucker, long acknowledged as one of the foremost authorities on gender dysphoria in children, spent years helping his patients align their subjective gender identity with their objective biological sex. He used psychosocial treatments (talk therapy, organized play dates, and family counseling) to treat gender dysphoria and had much success.

        Johns Hopkins had the first sex change clinic in the US. It was closed a few years ago after they saw the results of this practice. A lot of their patients returned wanting to be changed back to the original sex. They saw lots of psychological problems including suicides.

        They closed the clinic a few years ago.

        1. Somebody (maybe you?) posted the Fake News about Johns Hopkins on another thread. It wasn’t true then and still isn’t.

          Johns Hopkins stopped doing reassignment surgeries in 1979 (not exactly “a few years ago”). They announced last October that they would be resuming them because the overwhelming majority of their faculty supported the position on this issue of the American College of Pediatrics (60,000 members) and not that of the American College of Pediatricians (500 members).

  2. I just don’t understand the attention this gets when it relates to less than 1% of the population. The tail is wagging the dog here.

    Is there not more important issues to face?

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