UK passes the ‘most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy’

“The UK has just passed a massive expansion in surveillance powers, which critics have called ‘terrifying’ and ‘dangerous,'” Zack Whittaker reports for ZDNet. “The new law, dubbed the “snoopers’ charter”, was introduced by then-home secretary Theresa May in 2012, and took two attempts to get passed into law following breakdowns in the previous coalition government.”

“Four years and a general election later — May is now prime minister — the bill was finalized and passed on Wednesday by both parliamentary houses,” Whittaker reports. “But civil liberties groups have long criticized the bill, with some arguing that the law will let the UK government ‘document everything we do online.'”

“It’s no wonder, because it basically does,” Whittaker reports. “The law will force internet providers to record every internet customer’s top-level web history in real-time for up to a year, which can be accessed by numerous government departments; force companies to decrypt data on demand — though the government has never been that clear on exactly how it forces foreign firms to do that that; and even disclose any new security features in products before they launch. Not only that, the law also gives the intelligence agencies the power to hack into computers and devices of citizens (known as equipment interference), although some protected professions — such as journalists and medical staff — are layered with marginally better protections.”

Read more in the full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Fools.

Look like Airstrip One was already too far gone. It’s not enough that every Brit alive has at least one government camera shoved up their ass 24/7/365?

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. – Benjamin Franklin

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      1. I live there in the 90’s working on some movies and loved it then. Maybe not so much now. It’s funny when you think there’s always someone in “authority” trying to violate this kind of privacy rights thing, even in the States. Haven’t they read the Constitution? This stuff always has to be pushed back, and HARD. As Deputy Fife once said “Nip it in the bud! Nip it!”

      2. I wonder what your views will be when Pres Trump implements that system here in the USA.
        This is how terrorist activities will be dealt with in addition to making it possible for law enforcement to extract data from all communication devices.

      1. Number One he is not an illegitimate President elect, he was elected fair & square. Our process is through Electoral College and until that is done away with that’s just the way it is. The election is not won legally by votes only.

        Number Two he is as orangutan as you are.

        Number Three – Band of bigots? That’s your interpretation. I understand where it comes from but you fail to understand no one can just do anything they want in that office. There’s this thing called the Constitution and Bill Of Rights. You should check it out. I didn’t vote for him btw. He is under a microscope and he knows it. I am hoping he steps up and becomes a good President. I’m not as fatalistic as you. Miracles do happen.

  1. “Multiculturalism” is the death knell of nations. It’s also the reason why the UK is so scared of their so-called citizenry.


    Multiethnicity is perfectly fine. You can become a citizen if you assimilate. If you’re not willing to assimilate and live by the laws, rules, customs and culture of the country, then you are not welcome.

    1. Oh come on people. Why the down votes? It’s funny and has more than a grain of truth to it. The U.K. has some really scary/nasty self appointed Muslim clerics who spew nothing but hate for the west and who’s stated goal is to turn the U.K. into an Islamic republic. These guys are not about integration, tolerance or peace and harmony. Why they have been mostly tolerated by the authorities and not tried, convicted and thrown into prison for inciting violence I do not understand.

      1. This what liberals don’t get about the nature of some multiculturalism. Like it or not there are more dangerous groups than others and sooner or later it will bite you in the ass. Hard. Seems obvious but there are some who eternally will find a foolish silver lining in any bad thing and would be the first to crumple in the face of their bad judgment. Only then it will be too late.

        SEE: Aesop fable of “The Scorpion & The Frog.”

      2. UK has harboured countless number of Wahhabi/Salafi terrorist “clerics”, including from Chechnya. Just as their StateDep/neocon/neolib masters in Washington, they think they can use Al-Qaeda to destroy MENA region and, possibly, destroy Russia from within as they have tried in 1990s. The fact that Al-Qaeda has killed thousands of Americans, hundreds of Brits, let alone many more people in other countries does not bother them at all.

  2. “Assimilation is required.”
    I don’t see you running around with feathers on your head!
    Do you even believe in the 1st Amendment?

    Meanwhile the US has-no-formal-language of the land. Want one? Be careful what you ask for, because you might be assimilated into a language you don’t want.

    The UK does not have citizenry, they have subjects, just better than the USA of your dreams.

  3. The UK is not a democracy. For that matter neither is the United States. It’s a pet peeve of mine when people use the term “democracy” where it’s not applicable. The UK is a constitutional monarchy. The United States is a constitutional republic.

      1. A “constitution” doesn’t have to be written, but can be formed from precedent when the precedent has the force of law. That’s how it is with the UK.

        (In addition, their “constitution” isn’t nearly as strong as ours; an Act of Parliament can override anything in that “constitution” at the drop of a vote.)

      1. The United States is a federal constitutional republic.

        Republicanism is the dominant guiding political philosophy of the United States.

        There are major differences between the political system of the United States of America and that of most other developed democracies.

          1. No, there most certainly still are major differences between the political system of the United States of America and that of most other developed democracies.

  4. Good thing too, the internet can be used as a weapon by those who choose to do so. Those people must be able to be identified.


    Let’s make law enforcement destroy all fingerprint and DNA data in case they are able to identify the guilty. We wouldn’t want that, would we?

    1. Well, it’ll certainly be interesting to see what The Donald does about surveillance of personal electronic devices. If he’s true to his word we may see the iPhone required to have a back door installed. And what will be even more interesting to see will be how his supporters on this forum square that with their equally strong support for encryption.

      Oh, what schadenfreude awaits…?

      1. You’re right.

        Hate to say it, but you can expect Tim Cook to make a deal.
        The feds get their backdoors to the iPhone, and Apple gets to bring back their money to the United States.

        Another way of saying Donald Trump’s Justice Department will unintentionally allow China and Israel and Russia iPhone back doors.

      1. You big cry baby. Them Republicans just had 8 years of someone they didn’t vote for, but I didn’t see them crying. The problem with today’s people is that we’re teaching them that you’re never a loser, even if you are.

        1. The problem with today’s people is the same as it ever was: tying public policy to partisan ideology, and turning every citizen into a winner or a loser — as if life and governance were athletic competitions.

      2. I live in New Zealand and am slightly appalled by trump. I am however equally appalled by people like yourself who don’t like democracy when it doesn’t go your way. If you are a US citizen then come January he is is your president. You are free (for now) to say you don’t like him but when you deny the legitimacy of his presidency you are essentially rejecting democracy.

  5. At least they have the courtesy to pass a law about it, unlike that scum country that believes it’s above the law and slimes out surveillance in the dark with no regards to civilized behavior. People would still be in the dark if it wasn’t for folks like Snowden. Does change much of what they do, but now people realize how much of a threat they are to the free and civilized world.

      1. Thanks for the suggestion, should I ever find myself in the horrible condition of torturing people and disregarding the sovereignty of other nations I’ll seriously consider it.

        Meanwhile, I’ll stick to love and peace management, it’s so much more rewarding.

        1. I am forced to admit that you were right all along, about the character of my adopted country. Even having arrived at the age of fifty, I continue to be astonished at the persistence of medieval behaviour in my clan and of nearby clans. It is as if none of them aspire to anything besides dominance. I feel almost like weeping for the tragedy that is the human race, something that was once taught to us as a luminous beacon of wonder and reason, a sparkling jewel of the cosmos; but is finally revealed as a tawdry relic of apelike selfishness, territorialism, and moral squalor.

          1. Ah it’s a pleasure to see you again, though I have caught some of your posts here and there so I figure we’d run into each other again, something about being set free and coming back and being extra special.

            I could certainly have a plethora of approaches I could take to say how much I miss you but I’ll just pick one. Hugs are good right?

            Yes, you are right it is a common feature of those who live in hatred and fear to seek dominance but the parameter I think that is really illustrated here and quite often elsewhere is denial. Seems those from your adopted country are set in insulting others without taking into account the issue.

            A sovereign nation has decided to pass extreme surveillance law. Sure it can be met with criticism, but a nation that does that is at least being above board, unlike say a nation that does the most extreme surveillance without any laws, and we certainly know which nation believes that they are above the law.

            It’s all the normal process of an empire in the thralls of decay. Not much to do except encourage the herd to go off the cliff.

            The human(e) race is not a tragedy, where it exists, it’s still a luminous beacon of wonder, reason, hope, morality and ethics but unfortunately the existence of such values is becoming a rarity for your adopted country. Perhaps somedays that nation will choose to embrace once again these values but in the meantime I’m still around.

            Have a great day, and hugs are much better in pairs, you know give me one I give you one. Simplicity.

            1. My Irish forebears came to America fleeing famine and punitive discrimination in Britain and found opportunity here; but they were hardly treated better once they arrived.

              It is difficult to honestly describe the harrowing experiences of desperate immigrants, earnestly trying to assimilate, trying to escape the hopelessness behind them, praying for a chance at a decent life. We were spat at, reviled as violent, filthy, lazy and slothful.

              It didn’t even matter, back then, that we were white. We were Other.

  6. Membership of the EU has done this to the UK because the borders were not controlled – anyone getting into another EU member state could then move to the UK to spew hate and claim money from the state in benefits and healthcare HAVING NEVER CONTRIBUTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. T

    This is why #Brexit happened.

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