“Hillary Clinton said on Sunday that the Islamic State had become ‘the most effective recruiter in the world’ and that the only solution was to engage American technology companies in blocking or taking down militant websites, videos and encrypted communications,” David E. Sanger reports for The New York Times. “‘You are going to hear all the familiar complaints: ‘freedom of speech,” Mrs. Clinton said in an hourlong speech and question-and-answer session at the Saban Forum, an annual gathering at the Brookings Institution that focuses mostly on Israel’s security issues.”
MacDailyNews Take: As if hearing “all the familiar complaints” somehow obviates their point.
Freedom of speech is not a nuisance to be dispensed with when one doesn’t like or agree with the speech. Either everybody has freedom of speech or nobody does.
Ideas won’t go to jail. In the long run of history, the censor and the inquisitor have always lost. The only sure weapon against bad ideas is better ideas. — Alfred Whitney Griswold, 16th President of Yale University
If we don’t believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don’t believe in it at all. —Noam Chomsky
“In a reference to Silicon Valley’s reverence for disruptive technologies, Mrs. Clinton said, ‘We need to put the great disrupters at work at disrupting ISIS,’ an acronym used for the militant group,” Sanger reports. “Mrs. Clinton’s comments echo recent White House calls… But Mrs. Clinton is also risking putting herself at odds with technology executives and entrepreneurs crucial to her campaign’s fund-raising. And in Iowa and New Hampshire, states important early in the campaign, there is still considerable suspicion of the government and its demands for greater access to daily electronic communications.”
MacDailyNews Take: Adhere to the U.S. Constitution.
None of us should accept that the government or a company or anybody should have access to all of our private information. This is a basic human right. We all have a right to privacy. We shouldn’t give it up. We shouldn’t give in to scare-mongering or to people who fundamentally don’t understand the details. — Apple CEO Tim Cook, February 27, 2015
Visit the Apple-backed reformgovernmentsurveillance.com today.
“Mrs. Clinton used the forum to continue staking out a harder line on Iran than President Obama has in public… She said there should be ‘no doubt in Tehran’ that if the United States saw ‘any violations in the deal’ or an effort to procure or develop nuclear weapons technology, ‘we will stop them,’ including, she added, ‘taking military action,'” Sanger reports. “At one point, responding to a question, she referred to using the ‘nuclear option’ against Iran — usually interpreted as using a nuclear weapon — before her attention was caught by a prominent member of the audience, Justice Stephen G. Breyer of the Supreme Court. ‘Oh, the military option, thank you, Justice Breyer. He’s a careful listener,’ Mrs. Clinton said, reiterating that she meant a military option to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. It was a rare moment: a sitting member of the court rescuing a political candidate from a mistaken comment.”
MacDailyNews Take: If that doesn’t prove the U.S. Supreme Court is a purely political institution, nothing ever will.
“Much of Mrs. Clinton’s speech was closely aligned with Mr. Obama’s recent arguments about confronting the Islamic State. She spoke of the need to make sure that anyone on a ‘no-fly’ list also could not purchase a gun — a position several Republican candidates took issue with on Sunday — and to explicitly avoid blaming the American Muslim community for the acts of a small number of extremist,” Sanger reports. “Her critique of American technology companies was impassioned but vague on the specifics of what she was asking them to do… Over the past year, technology firms have made clear they do not want to be in the position of ideological censors. And Mrs. Clinton herself was a major advocate, as secretary of state, of programs that expanded Internet access to get around the censorship of repressive societies, starting with China.”
“Encryption poses an even more difficult problem, and Mrs. Clinton appeared to be calling for discussion among the technology companies, intelligence agencies and law enforcement groups,” Sanger reports. “But that discussion has been underway, in public and private, for nearly a year now.”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Adhere to the U.S. Constitution.
Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear. — U.S. President Harry S. Truman
Terrorism is horrible and must be stopped. All of us must do everything we can do to stop this craziness… these people shouldn’t exist. They should be eliminated… You don’t want to eliminate everyone’s privacy. If you do, you not only don’t solve the terrorist issue but you also take away something that is a human right. The consequences of doing that are very significant. Apple CEO Tim Cook, February 27, 2015
Visit the Apple-backed reformgovernmentsurveillance.com today.
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. – Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
SEE ALSO:
Tim Cook attacks Google, U.S. federal government over right to privacy abuses – June 3, 2015
Apple CEO Tim Cook advocates privacy, says terrorists should be ‘eliminated’ – February 27, 2015
Apple’s iPhone encryption is a godsend, even if government snoops and cops hate it – October 8, 2014
Short-timer U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder blasts Apple for protecting users’ privacy against government overreach – September 30, 2014
FBI blasts Apple for protective users’ privacy by locking government, police out of iPhones and iPads – September 25, 2014
Apple thinks different about privacy – September 23, 2014
Apple CEO Tim Cook ups privacy to new level, takes direct swipe at Google – September 18, 2014
Apple will no longer unlock most iPhones, iPads for government, police – even with search warrants – September 18, 2014
Would you trade privacy for national security? Most Americans wouldn’t – August 6, 2014
Apple begins encrypting iCloud email sent between providers – July 15, 2014
Obama administration demands master encryption keys from firms in order to conduct electronic surveillance against Internet users – July 24, 2013
U.S. NSA seeks to build quantum computer to crack most types of encryption – January 3, 2014
Apple’s iMessage encryption trips up U.S. feds’ surveillance – April 4, 2013
“Impassioned but vague on specifics.”
That ought to be the Democrat Party motto.
Hillary Clinton is a proven serial liar who simply cannot be trusted.
Hi Steve Jack!
As soon as I saw the word “Hillary”, I knew you’d be the first post! Nothing like a little early Monday Morning Propaganda to start the day, eh?
Keep up the good work! Check’s in the mail.
Make that Steve Jack shit.
You just can’t handle the truth.
Kent, you’re an ignoramus.
Boris – you have excrement between your ears and it spews out of your mouth. This makes you a Democrat archetype.
I agree, Steve Jack, the one man staff at MDN is First 2014 and whatever. He’s almost always the first to post on the political stories, and unless there’s some kind of notification of political post, I don’t see how this is posible.
It’s called “push notifications.” Use the MDN app and you’ll know when new articles are posted, too.
So give America to the Koch Brothers?
nah. George Soros has it well in hand, Mr Globalist Toady.
Really, Fwhatever, you need to take a break in your one-sided political viewpoint. Your own bias has blinded you to the fact that the entire U.S. political system is vague on specifics and infected with false passion for voter effect. This applies to Republican candidates just as much as those from any other party.
Give it a rest. We know what “Fair and Balanced” means, and you sound like you belong on that channel, spouting opinions and conjectures as news and blaming absolutely everything on President Obama and Democrats.
KingMel, I think he has a point. Remember the glory days of the Bush presidency, especially the middle-class prosperity and the health of the business environment towards the end of his time — when he’d really had a chance to enact his policies.
Oh, man. Those were some great times!
Hillary/Leavenworth’16-’38
this is not an ideological/political issue. the freedom of expression is what defines this nation. yes, it will be used by our enemies, but there is no grey area here. either you have it or not and putting the government in the role of arbiter is delusional. the only difference between the major parties today is one wants to place the federal government in the role of arbiter of right and wrong and the other greenly doesn’t, although on this topic both parties put “security” above “freedom”.
there is some humor in this if you can step back from ehe politics. hillary should be listened to on the topic of encryption as sh clearly is an expert.
another is the same people who would want criminals and thugs to have privacy rights to protect the concept and idea of freedom of speech would want to strip the gun rights from law abiding citizens. before you jump pall over this, please think deeply about the meaning of this statement. it is not about guns or privacy, but logic and philosophy. bad people hiding under both issues can use the protection to kill you. as an american, you have to tolerate that risk to keep your own freedom, again as you can’t trust the mechanism of government to do it for our. on the issue of speech, you can speak in response. if of inclined, on the subject of guns, you can shoot back. both are the essence of the freedom that is protected. the difference in sides is whether you expect of hope the government can act as an effective arbiter.
You are an overblown windbag.
You know nothing of which you speak.
Don’t forget her immortal, “Don’t let anyone tell you, you know, that businesses and corporations create jobs.”
In related news, The Pantsuit Succubus thinks rain comes from rocks.
Take it from someone with a PhD in Clinton:
First 2014, Then 2016 is correct concerning Ms Clinton.
Her “core values” are whatever will get her ass in the White House- nothing more or less.
Every Republican has demanded a backdoor into encryption, so why fkag Clinton as though she’s the main culprit.
Its Republicans that want to compromise privacy for “security” everywhere, uta tgen that spread and cast fear and want troops to die.
Vribg back tge staft and eatch how they object like cowards…
Just another poor boy fighting a rich man’s ear.
“so why fkag Clinton as though she’s the main culprit.”
As the NYT, not us.
EVERY Republican?
Really?
“The USA Freedom Act is now becoming an issue in the Republican presidential campaign. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida criticized two of his opponents, Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas and Rand Paul of Kentucky, for wanting to reel in the NSA.
“At least two of my colleagues in the Senate aspiring to the presidency, Sen. Cruz in particular, have voted to weaken the U.S. intelligence programs,” Mr. Rubio said at The Wall Street Journal CEO Council annual meeting. “And the weakening of our intelligence-gathering capabilities leaves America vulnerable.”
Talk about a propagandist….
The third paragraph of your comment seems to still be encrypted?
Every Republican has demanded a backdoor into encryption, so why flag Clinton as though she’s the main culprit?
Its Republicans that want to compromise privacy for “security” everywhere, it’s them that spread and cast fear and want troops to die.
Bring back the draft and watch how they object like cowards…
Just another poor boy fighting a rich man’s war.
Spell check for bulshit
How about read check for facts, stated right above your post.
If you miss something that close to your post, no wonder you miss so much everywhere else….
uh, no they haven’t.
She is such a technical genius. Maybe the guys who ran her server could help save us from the crazy evil in the world.
“It was a rare moment: a sitting member of the court rescuing a political candidate from a mistaken comment.”
Funny how it’s always the Dem/Lib/Progs who need saving:
Yep, Fwhatever, I cannot recall a single instance in which a Republican candidate or elected official misspoke or put their proverbial foot in their mouth. Not a single occasion, or even three…
Need I add the “/s”? You are a misguided tool and self-guided fool.
“We need to put Silicon Valley tech firms to ‘work at disrupting ISIS’” = An admission the huge government and all its intelligence agencies can’t do the job.
Perhaps the blame lies with misguided American foreign policy and “preemptive” wars that cause people in certain parts of the world to hate us more than they already did and make it easier for terrorist organizations to find new recruits.
Which “preemptive” wars did we engage that caused the Jihadis to fly those planes into the Twin Towers? “Certain parts of the world” like San Bernardino? “More than they already did”, so you’re admitting we’re dealing with a hateful religion. Perhaps the blame lies with the Muslims that slaughter Christians, Jews and their own brethren.
What? You mean you don’t blame America first?
You MUST be from flyover country….(as I).
I don’t want to get into a whole diatribe, but the US has been overthrowing democratically elected governments and staging wars of convenience for more than a century. As pertains to the Middle East, you’ve got the CIA-backed coup in Iran in 1953, a CIA-backed coup in Syria in 1949, Iran-Contra and our botched involvement in Lebanon during the 1980s, the first Iraq war, the second Iraq war and our 14-year misadventure in Afghanistan.
And let’s not forget our unquestioned and unyielding support for Israel over the past 60 years.
I’m not saying the terrorists attacks are the fault of US foreign policy, but you simply can’t ignore the history — and the heavy US involvement in the region — that’d led us to this point. (An equal share of the blame goes to the British and French for carving up the Ottoman empire like blindfolded kids playing pin the tail on the donkey.)
One final thought: much of the blame for Islamic fundamentalism is due to our good friends, the Saudis. But no politician and virtually no one in the media dares mention that. Terrorism is terrible, but business is business.
I won’t get into a diatribe, either, save for the quote “you simply can’t ignore history” and then you ignore history by acting as if we just went in to a perfectly well oil machine of a country and screwed it up against a majority of the people’s will.
When most people on the left mention any of those involvements, that is as far as their knowledge goes. They have no idea what Iran had going on in 1952, yet they will then turn around and want us to overthrow someone like Quadaffi years after he quit being a threat.
Here’s my one final thought; as long as the left gives money to the Saudis by restricting cleaner and safer oil production in America, they will continue to have power and influence over the Middle East.
There are many things people on the Left are brilliant at, History and Economics are not on that list.
YOU are the government.
There is not a single piece of technology that wasn’t invented by a human being.
(Unless you consider the aliens)
Foreign enemies of the US have no First Amendment rights. I’m surprised MDN would want to extend those protections to ISIS.
Instructions on building pipe bombs seems like a good candidate for being blocked. Unless you class pipe bomb as “arms”, in which case, can’t touch that.
This quote MDN chose is clear:
“Ideas won’t go to jail. In the long run of history, the censor and the inquisitor have always lost. The only sure weapon against bad ideas is better ideas.” — Alfred Whitney Griswold, 16th President of Yale University
Nah, it’s way too simplistic. Some of these mutations need to be defeated. How many generations of North Korean dictators have we seen? How many generations of people will be kept prisoners. Trust me, it won’t be idea’s that defeat the dictators in North Korea and ISIS.
I think it’s a human tragedy that people think it’s OK for people to be unslaved for hundreds of years until a “better idea” surfaces.
We all know you meant ‘enslaved’….right?
(slight difference in meaning there)
and BTW, don’t forget Cuba, Mongolia, Iran, Chicago….
Yep, just like the Republican position at large, on this issue.
“What happened was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to be governed by surprise, to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believe that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security. ~ The crises and reforms (real reforms too) so occupied the people that they did not see the slow motion underneath, of the whole process of government growing remoter and remoter. ~ To live in the process is absolutely not to notice it — please try to believe me — unless one has a much greater degree of political awareness, acuity, than most of us ever had occasion to develop. Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, ‘regretted.’ ~ Believe me this is true. Each act, each occasion is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join you in resisting somehow. ~ Suddenly it all comes down, all at once. You see what you are, what you have done, or, more accurately, what you haven’t done (for that was all that was required of most of us: that we did nothing) . . . You remember everything now, and your heart breaks. Too late. You are compromised beyond repair.”—A German professor describing the coming of fascism in They Thought They Were Free by Milton Mayer
You are drawing a parallel with the actions of the Bush administration starting in late 2001, right? Where we used the excuse of a criminal act to justify the beginning of a war of empire and becoming a nation that condoned torture and spying on its citizens.
Don’t insult people who have actually been tortured by comparing it to water boarding. Pulling out fingernails, smashing limbs, attaching live wires to genitalia, that’s torture. Guantanamo Bay is Club Med for these bearded barbarians.
What do you expect?
Listening to an opposing view is torture to the left.
They’ll pay a hooker to choke them, drip hot wax on clothespins while sticking ‘toys’ out of ‘sight’, but don’t spill some water on a mass murderer (unless it’s Perrier).
Good Lord.
In the South we call that ‘Baptism’….
I doubt you’d last 30 seconds under “enhanced interrogation.” Face it, we tortured people. We tortured people, and Dick Cheney smiled. Payback can be a real bitch.
Do you actually mean to say he would die after 30 seconds?
Face it, we’re not near as evil of a country as your guilt-ridden soul wishes we were.
There are some men who understand real-world consequences and are trusted to protect this country, then there are others better suited to teach Social Studies and Art. No shame in that, just a big difference.
If it was so OK, why did the CIA “lose” all the video tapes? That our misdeeds could have been worse is a pretty weak defense.
As far as Guantanamo Bay is concerned, it was a bad idea when GWB hatched it, it’s a bad idea now and it has undoubtedly done more to undermine Americans dignity than shooting up hospitals. Being feared is not the same as being respected and never will be.
He’s describing U.S. politics in general, not one particular party.
MDN quoting Noam Chomsky…favorably? What is this, Bizarro World?
“Either everybody has freedom of speech or nobody does.” – MacDailyNews
Let’s just send Hillary to ISIS and maybe she can drive them to suicide by screeching at them.
-jcr
Put Hillary out to pasture.
Time and again we see failures with the evidence in plain view, as when the Russians flagged the Boston bombers but we blew it, or when some bad guy has/had false credentials that somehow were accepted, and so forth. It seems fair to say we need to learn to act on the information we already have. More information would only confuse matters further, we can’t effectively use that which we already get. JOPO
Like “Al Quaida determined to strike US”? That would have been a great place to start.
The only thing that is going to stop ISIS is a middle eastern Muslim holocaust. How is Silicon Valley supposed to help with that?
… because the NSA is too busy with other things like tracking Snowden?
“blocking or taking down militant websites, videos and encrypted communications,”
Maybe she should employ the Great Firewall of China.
“‘We need to put the great disrupters at work at disrupting ISIS,’”
Anonymous is already working on it.
What a bunch of crock.
“the Islamic State had become had become “the most effective recruiter in the world” and that the only solution was to engage American technology companies in blocking or taking down militant websites, videos and encrypted communications.”
This is the common approach, I’d say almost a Samsung approach. Try to belittle the competition, like USUS is trying to do to ISIS. It’s not Apple’s approach they make great products. Now if there was a great product that was torture free, respected individual privacy, hospitals and the sovereignty of other nations then you’d have an organization that would be worthy of being an effective recruiter.
As it stands USUS and ISIS are flip sides of the same terrorist coin.
I would like to talk about the elephant in the room that everyone seems to be ignoring.
Even before reading this article, I have had a big concern for some time. Because Apple has become an undisputed cornerstone of the US and world economy, that alone leads me to believe that it could be high on the list for terrorists organizations to target. With Apple completing their “Mothership Campus” next year, they are concentrating tens of thousands of their employees at one location. Even if Apple, quite appropriately, beefs up their security policies, the bad guys can and will come up with ways to deal with difficult targets. Just consider the Pentagon, that is remarkably similar to Apple’s new facility in size, shape and population.
I just don’t think it would be a good idea for any major corporation to take an disproportionally overt stance, publicly attacking any terrorist organization. There is nothing wrong with a very carefully considered covert approach. I’m hopeful that Apple has already carefully considered all of these ramifications.
We need to put Silicon Valley tech firms to ‘work at disrupting ISIS’
Air-drop a lot of old Windows Vista laptops to them set to the Welsh language. that ought to confuse the fuck out of them for several years.
Abdullah, for our next strike against the infidel, we are targeting Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwll…oh forget it, we’ll go to Cardiff. Wipe the spit of your face.
Princess Hillary: Just drop out of public view and let us move on. OK? We don’t need any more techno-ignorance. We don’t need any more government sourced totalitarianism. We don’t need any more corporatocracy. So go away, retire, whatever.
Remember that the magician (right hand/left hand) USSA created ISIS and the other strawmen to set up and establish an opposition force on which to focus our attention.
Part of the “game” against humanity. Who controls the “coin”?