“Adoption of Apple’s OS X El Capitan slowed significantly in November, with the upgrade pace falling behind that of its predecessor at the same point in the 2014 edition’s post-launch timeline,” Gregg Keizer reports for Computerworld.
“El Capitan, also identified as OS X 10.11, was released on the last day of September: 61 days later it had been installed on 38% of all Macs, according to analytics firm Net Applications,” Keizer reports. “That was an increase of 11 percentage points from the month before, when the upgrade set an adoption record for a Mac operating system.”
“A sizable number of Macs continued to run outdated editions of OS X last month, even though many of them were eligible for the El Capitan upgrade,” Keizer reports. “By Net Applications’ data, about 14%, representing one in seven Macs, was powered by a version that Apple no longer supports with security updates. ”
Read more in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Four out of ten Macs seen by Net Applications are now running the latest version of OS X. That is a grand success by any measure.
Do you have a compatible Mac, but have not yet upgraded to OS X 10.11.1 El Capitan? If so, why?
My own wife has an identical MacBook Pro to mine and she wouldn’t update for a long time because “she was too busy”.
I updated the day before El Capitan was released – to Yosemite. Totally smooth update from OS X Mavericks. No glitches or waiting for third party apps to release compatibility updates. Everything just works.
Hope you nerds have fun spending the next year beta testing El Capitan for me.
You nailed it ! Thank you, The public releases of OS X and iOS have been all beta.
Think about it: Through the last 3 years Apple turned safe and working (Pro) users into helpless douchebags.
Thats where AAPL is going down and you know its true.
But the creepy always smiling faggot will be happy as can be sitting on a cucumber and celebrating being so damn gay.
I hate him.
You are a sick puppy. And I don’t mean that in a good way.
Look, I hate Cook too. He has no passion for the products, lets Ive do whatever artistic bullshit to iOS, OS X and the hardware he wants and is in the process of turning Apple into an bland, unimaginative phone company.
But cut the gay bashing. Cook is gay, that’s his business and bringing bigotry into tech posts loses you a great deal of credibility.
The lack of love is what hate. The passion for the just works promise is out of sight for years.
We do not hate gay people, but we are allowed to make fun of them when they suck. And TC sucks a lot. IMHO.
And I hate homophobes.
Love wins, right?
Except that you’re not being very loving.
BTW, how do you know he fears homosexuals? Uhm, you don’t.
I swear. There’s so much projection in this issue.
You are an embarrassment to Texas and to conservatism. Being conservative means keeping your nose out of other peoples business, not trying to tell them how to live. As for being a helpless douchebag, I think you got there on your own, with no assistance from Apple at all.
Mind your own business. You’ll be happier and a lot more pleasant to be around (maybe).
No, son. You’re the one who doesn’t understand conservatism.
Homosexuality is a violation of natural law; homosexuality first deranges the individual, and eventually deranges the nation. In the wake of the USSC ruling, that is as obvious as day. This is because homosexual activists are basically totalitarians with a single issue, like environmentalists, anti-gun folks, and black power advocates. Every single one is willing to destroy all aspects of the Constitution to get their way – rights for themselves only is what they want, not tolerance, and rights for all.
You really understand putting the Con in conservative.
I didn’t really care for Mavericks and waited for some time to go to Yosemite, but I got on the el Capitan bandwagon early with a developers copy and never looked back. So far so good.
This is a site for Apple news – not your hate-filled, gay-bashing.
Please take your hatred, and vileness elsewhere. It is not appreciated here.
This is a site for and about Apple products and personalities.
People who oppose homosexuality have every right to speak as much as you do, you wannabe censor.
And you may want to retake logic 101. Criticizing homosexuality does not mean anyone is full of hate. How would you even know what’s in his heart? You don’t have a clue.
And I am perfectly within my rights to ask someone to take their hatred elsewhere.
See how that works?
I completely and unequivocally disagree with the ant-gay opinions that were injected into this comment thread. That’s not cool with me, LoneStar.
I suspect a lot of it has to do with corporate signing off on it. We have apps we are getting challenges in getting compatible updates from the third party developers that we could literally render our machines unusable without them. This is for VPN or other network security applications. We initially hoped to be able to upgrade in early November but it keeps getting pushed back further.
Being that I work for a Fortune 500 company, I would take a guess that many professionals fall into this same issue, and many may even have the same third party apps blocking our update.
Same here: 2013 Macbook Pro for work, can’t even update to Yosemite yet, never mind El Cap. Installed Yosemite to an external drive two months ago, to test against software and utilities I use for work, and there were enough incompatibilities that I couldn’t proceed.
I would be pressuring your IT, perhaps with documentation outlining the benefits of upgrading versus the risks of maintaining outdated operating systems. It sounds like they’re just lazy, to me.
I should’ve clarified that we have no IT department. *I* am in charge of my development machine.
Mavericks is not outdated in the sense that Apple’s still providing security updates for it. But as you yourself noted, every major OSX update seems to introduce changes to the underlying OS that break 3rd party software. Doesn’t matter if the changes are for legit reasons, it still means I can’t update until updated software is released or someone else discovers a workaround. Call that lazy if you want, but I already spent several unbillable hours installing Yosemite and trying to get a (replicated) work environment going, and there were enough issues that would take more hours of troubleshooting that I just didn’t have at the time.
Oh I misunderstood you. From your first post, it sounded like you tested it and found NO issues, but were still restricted by someone else from updating for no reason. It now sounds, instead, that you are in the same boat as me: waiting for third party developers to update their apps.
I am coming in on the side of the 3rd party developers in this one. Apple does things that make their lives a lot harder than they need to be, and they are the ones that 1: have to risk the economic futures of their companies every time Apple decides to change something that they most likely gave very little or no warning about, and 2: cause the users of 3rd party apps, like me who make my living from those apps to spend extra time and money to produce every project.
My costs of production go up every time there is a new OS X upgrade, and I pass those costs on. I have to, no choice there.
Few Apple apps have any value for me. They are intended for “consumer use” as opposed to producer use. People like me produce things that “consumers” use, but not using Apple apps, but 3rd party apps, no choice there either.
Without those apps, I can’t produce anything of value, and Apple doesn’t seem to care much about people like me, and the people who produce the website you are currently reading.
And I will add that ‘rootless’ makes a big difference to the enterprise, too. I have 10.11 on a test machine and it will not, unless rootless is disabled, install some very basic management utilities we use. Not a good thing.
Oh well, OSX become flop. Look at Windows 10 adoption rate, increased over month…
Even more macs user ditch OSX and use windows 10…
You must be mentally challenged. You’re a paid Microsoft troll! Look at your name “zune”. Clown.
I totally agree with you, both of you … because you are both idiots,
Using Windows or OS X has become useless for Pro users if their intention is: being productive.
And that is not true, but: it feels like that and that is enough shame for a company that own 200 fucking billion dollars
But shame is out of fashion for rich people, right ?
I hate you gay suckers. Being gay is okay, but it is not an excuse for nothing, eat that target demographic 😛
You seem awfully obsessed with homosexuality.
You know what they say about guys who are the most vehement about homosexuals. That sissy just doesn’t have the guts to come out like the braver gays.
I don’t how you can argue from a post (or even a handful of posts) that someone obsesses over an issue. Logic fail. All I see is that he doesn’t share your opinion, so therefore he is bad bad bad. Time for the two minute’s hate!
Using your logic, those who obsess over an issue have sharp opinions on it, and therefore secretly believe the opposite. Man. What about all those strident SJW out there? Are they secretly pawns for the middle class and straight people? Is Bill Maher secretly an Islamist?
And we know from basic psychology that people who obsessively hate something…
He is just as wrong as the gay activists.
The attacks, hatred and intolerance that the gay activists have been using for years to try and silence anyone that disagrees with them will fuel hate and division. In the beginning they screamed for tolerance but they are now the most intolerant of all. Just look at what they’re doing. Seeking out people and businesses to destroy simply because those people and businesses stand up for what they believe in? How is that being tolerant? If you want a cake made, go to a place where you’re not trying to trample someone else’s convictions. You wouldn’t go into a kosher store to buy pork, so why go to a Christian business to help with a gay wedding? If you want to get married then go to someone whose’s views don’t conflict with yours. How much sense does it make to try to force bible believing churches to perform gay marriages? The gay activists have gone from wanting acceptance to wanting to destroy thoughts that they don’t like.
The sad part is that the hatred on both sides doesn’t help at all, it hurts everyone.
True Christians are portrayed as the villain, not because of their actions, but because of who they worship. I use to hate gays but as I’ve studied the bible over the years I’ve changed. Focussing more and more on Jesus and less on myself has changed my thinking. Yes the bible is very clear on homosexuality but God’s love is for anyone who wants it. If God wants to offer His love to those who are gay then I should also. That doesn’t mean that I’m to agree that their lifestyle is ok but my actions towards those I disagree with should be kind and show God’s love. I’m not good at that but I’m trying.
Jesus really does love us all and he doesn’t ask anyone to change before they come to Him. All He asks is that we accept His forgiveness and study His word. Will change occur? Yes, but it will come over time and it will come from a desire within us to change. God doesn’t force us, He loves us.
How does that “christian business” define itself as christian if it won’t do as Jesus would have and accept and love everyone? They are not actually christian, just bigots using a Bible to try to beat others up, not markedly trying to beat others up with a Koran, IMHO. A bakery is not a religious institution. Putting a little plastic fishie on the door doesnt sanctify what goes on behind the door. Only the Christian acts of the people behind the door can do that.
LOL. Go and read the Bible. What did Jesus say to the woman caught in adultery? “Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more.” That doesn’t sound like love as you define it, son.
You don’t get to define who calls themselves a Christian. Sorry, but you don’t get to make those kinds of decisions. You have to respect others’ decisions about themselves.
And no, choosing to run your business to honor God is not bashing anyone over the head with anything. Perhaps you’re just too delicate to handle other people’s freedoms? You know, there are less free countries that may appeal to you.
I do, from time to time. But I try to read enough to gain some clarity about what is being said. Sentence fragments don’t do it for me. In the case of John Chapter 8, it’s about the Pharises, not the woman. Try this for a little perspective:
3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her”.
8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, “Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?”
11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, “Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more”.
Actually you missed the point and it’s probably because you choose to miss the point. That’s fine.
What I mean by Christian business isn’t that the business is a Christian institution, it’s that the people running the business desire to run it according to their beliefs which are based on God’s word.
You wouldn’t go into a Kosher store to buy pork because you know that their beliefs don’t allow them to sell pork. You accept and respect that. Why can’t you offer that same understanding to the business that desires to follow the bible? From all accounts all of these businesses that are being targeted by gay activists have been respectful and kind to the activists. Some have even offered to help find someone who would serve them. However, the activists had no interest in the service that the business offered, all they wanted was to attack Christians because Christians believe that homosexuality is a sin. The activists are intolerant of Christians. That’s your choice.
I choose to try and display the same love that Jesus has shown me. It’s difficult because it doesn’t come naturally and many, many times I fail at it but I’ll keep on trying.
The Kosher store wouldn’t have pork to sell. Kind of a silly parallel but it may be your best effort. I generally don’t even enter a business with a fishie on the door. I don’t know if they are proclaiming their objection to gays, Jews, Arabs, Persians, Asians, blacks or old white guys. I don’t fall into most of those categories, but I’m giving them a wide berth. That way I don’t risk being offensive to them.
But I’m not really aware of “all of these businesses” being subjected to an onslaught of gay activist hordes. I’ve heard of one bakery and that pizza place that raised $800,000 by saying thew wouldn’t cater a gay wedding, even though no one ever asked them. Gays have more to do, like try to get a marriage license in Kentucky. Christian persecution exists in the hearts of the guilty, not the real world.
Please, Jesus was a closet homosexual with a dirty foot fetish. Nobody was talking about mythological superstitions until you stopped in. Nobody wants to hear about your private religious beliefs just as we don’t want to hear about your bowel movements.
Please, nobody was talking about atheist ignorance until you revealed yours.
Of course what you say is not attested to by the facts. Your ignorance of Jewish culture is particularly astounding.
I see. So you are a censor too? You want to drive certain expressions and discussions from the public square? Ah, you too are delicate snowflake who can’t handle other peoples’ freedoms! It’s all your way or no way at all.
Celebrate diversity, bigot.
It is a free country. And you cannot force nobody to love gay people.
When they suck, they suck, even as CEO.
I suspect you missed his point.
Please just go away.
This is a site for Apple news – it does not need your hatred of gays. And frankly, like most people who scream and holler against things, “thou doth protest too much”.
I doubt he will leave until Cook stops throwing his homosexuality in all of our faces. When Apple employees make themselves the news, expect people to comment on it. I know; I know, this should be a “safe space” but it isn’t! How horrible that you have to read opinions that you don’t like! Why don’t you accuse him of hate speech and dox him like a real homosexual advocate would do? I hope you see the irony in where your sentiments lead.
You have got to be kidding.
And I’m sorry, but time & time again, when people are screaming that much about something – they’re doing it themselves.
I did not upgrade to El Capitan. There are issues with Spotlite and the Finders Search tool. It will not search within my current folder and it will not find files that I am looking for. Actually, that is not true. It finds them but grays them out making the file not selectable as if its not a proper file type. This happens with 3rd party and native apps. Enough time has passed for Apple to have a fix for this but none can be found. Honestly, if it worked under Yosemite, why doesn’t it work in El Capitan?
I haven’t had a problem with search, but then again I may not have used it at all in years. Try organizing your files so you don’t need to search.
Organize my files around a defect that shouldn’t be there? I have a business and one folder in particular has over 350 different files. They are organized and labeled in a manner where I can simply click on the search and type in two letters/numbers to bring up the file I’m looking for. Isn’t that the purpose of the search tool? Asking me to organize my files differently is like GM saying “We know there are defects in our car but just don’t use the gas pedal and you won’t have to worry about the defective accelerator.”
That’s the most clueless posts I’ve seen in a very long time.
I don’t know mpias, I see a few clueless posts every day. Take mine for example.
I find Spotlight to be more of a bug than a feature. An error in spotlight (which has tentacles throughout OS X) caused Mail to malfunction. Flagged items no longer were counted, the search function stopped working and smart mailboxes stopped updating. Later it prevented certain Terminal commands from working. Finally Spotlight itself started really screwing up. It lost all the entries in the privacy tab to be lost (which contained my five backup drives) causing the Open With command to display each program six times and the computer spent a good portion of its time indexing. Spotlight couldn’t be forced to reindex and it took a very weird set of occurrences to point me at the solution. By the way, I was working with an Apple second level advisor for weeks on this problem and he was as stumped as I was.
Apple prevents Spotlight from looking everywhere. Understandable but annoying, especially when troubleshooting. I use Mail Drop often and discovered in initial testing that it leaves copies of the large files peppered throughout the Mail folder, where Spotlight isn’t allowed to look. Fortunately the files were huge, about 4.5 GB each and all named Test.zip. Between Disk Inventory X and a good third party search program, I was able to clear out about 40 GB of space (significant on an SSD boot drive) that had been used over two days.
I stick with third party search utilities, they actually work.
I won’t upgrade to El Cap until Apple fixes problems with my iCloud account caused by the installation of Yosemite. They’ve only been at it for about 14 months.
Frankly, there’s nothing compelling enough about El Cap to entice me to upgrade. Broken as it is, Mail Drop is a very useful feature. I’m not sure it worth all the agony Yosemite has caused, but it is Yosemite’s one killer feature.
I also noticed that there were things that Spotlight didn’t find in El Capitan. I now use EasyFind and HoudahSpot to do some of my searches.
Thanks for these mentions of 3rd party alternatives.
I’ve personally found OS X’s “Search” (aka “Sherlock”, etc) to have been problematic for years.
And the subsequent loss of being able to perform technically detailed searches from within the Finder is making me regret my upgrade to Yosemite, too.
“And the subsequent loss of being able to perform technically detailed searches from within the Finder …”
Can you explain what you mean by “technically detailed” searches? I compared the searches on my work machine (running Mavericks), and my machine running El Capitan, and they look basically the same to me. IE – I can add numerous criteria to a search.
What is missing?
I for one would like the header of every single window to have a visible Spotlight icon.
When you click on that icon, a search menu should pop up, ideally as a new large opaque window on top and centered in front of everything else.
Per user preference settings, the top of that Spotlight search window should have a multi-parameter search functions. This search window should display results immediately below the search inputs, so real time search refinement is possible. The results displayed should allow the user to see as many or as few metadata details as he wishes.
On a related note, I would like OS X to finally get smart about file versioning and elimination of duplicates. Some people want and need to have multiple copies of an evolving project file, other people want to have only one visible file and let Time Machine handle recovery if they realize they need to revert back to a prior version. The OS needs to make it possible to work either way. But in doing so, it needs to be smart enough to let the user eliminate file duplication.
In addtion, Time Machine needs to grow up and incorporate more efficient search as well. In this new world where Apple/MS/Google all want to make it impossible to manually see and manage your own files, we now have repeated issues debugging what file is the master when a sync fails. Making a presentation from an iPad just isn’t realistic because it just doesn’t support the professional tools you need to run big time meetings. So if one thinks you can just sync all your stuff like Apple advertises, you’re setting yourself up for problems. And with an iOS device, you can’t search and find anything. Hence the Mac has to be the platform that masters file management. Due to crappy syncing and many more reasons, we do not rely on iCloud at all. The master files of any project are stored on a local server, with clear processes to check out and work remotely on a file or work from the server and realtime share files. Either way can work for small simple stuff, but the Handoff dream is just not working for big stuff. OS X needs to make it easier to manage files and backups seamlessly. Time Machine is just not the end-all on that front, and it needs to be.
By “technically detailed”, I’ll be looking for certain keywords, of a specific filetype, constrained create/modify date, etc. hope that clarifies.
I’m still using Yosemite because music software that I use has not yet been made compatible with El Capitan. Evidently El Capitan introduced some significant changes in how the OS handles audio, and some of the changes are glitchy besides.
Well, to move from Mavericks to El Capitan for graphic design and web studios means upgrading from Quark 10 -> 2015 for $350 and from Creative Suite 6 to Creative Cloud for $489/year. So my design studio is perfectly functional running a few year old iMac with Quark 10 and CS 6. Why would I want to drop $839 upfront, and pay $489/yr for CC, when I can do everything I want? I still have a co-worker who is using Snow Leopard with CS6 and Quark 9.x, and cranking out a ton of production. It’s not even so much just the cost, but the lost productivity in the studio doing upgrades and rebuilding productive workflows, and learning the upgrades that eat up the clock.
do your creative staff and your productivity a huge, HUGE favor…dump QuirkDePressd. It is, and has always been, a piece of shït.
” to move from Mavericks to El Capitan… means upgrading … from Creative Suite 6 to Creative Cloud …”
Which applications exactly are causing this? I have CS 6, and haven’t had any problems with El Capitan. With Illustrator, I had to install a version of Java, but that was it. Everything else works fine.
In a production shop, you never upgrade an OS then start debugging and dealing with issues, it eats up time and $$. Until Adobe issues a green light support note, it would be foolish to tempt fate. Missed deadlines due to software problems are the worst. Looking at it another way, why upgrade if there really isn’t anything to gain? What features of El Capitan really are needed? A production designer and developer need only upgrade the OS if it brings needed functionality. We haven’t seen the need for anything El Cap brings.
As to Quark, it is problematic, and InDesign is my preferred tool. But we still have tons of legacy work in QXP that needs to be referenced and reused.
I waited till .1 El Capitan was there.
I’m normally a .3 guy on the major releases (Leopard, Lion, etc) and .2 guy on the OS releases that are performance and reliability focused (Snow Leopard, Mountain Lion, El Capitan).
I don’t have any desire to cause myself unnecessary grief.
With new versions being spit out once a year, there’s no time to test new releases so we wind up with late betas. By the time they’re actually ready for release, we’re looking at a new version 6, or even 3 months away.
Apple needs to go back to a release when ready policy rather than a scheduled release. Remember, Snow Leopard was being updated for almost two years before Lion was released and no one was complaining.
The absolute worst decision I’ve made with my Mac has been to progress past Snow Leopard.
I am currently using Mavericks and am tolerating it, but not really loving it.
Apple hasn’t given me a single reason to move to a later version of OS X.
Where is the new, more secure file system?
When is OS X programs going to efficiently manage both memory AND multithreading effectively?
When is the user going to be given real options for font, color, and allow option of window borders so we can actually read and manage each window effectively?
When is Keychain going to be made secure, with features like 1Password and with hardware support for TouchID?
Where is the improved Mail, Calendar, and Contacts functionality?
Where is the reliable and fast multi-field search in Spotlight?
Where are the FULL replacements for the desktop iWork programs that used to work great online and offline?
Why are new Macs always phoning home and requiring accounts and logins and security exceptions to run software that you already own?
Why aren’t functions like Maps or Messages uninstallable, or perhaps offered as standalone apps with Pro versions that actually work well?
What happened to the important functions in Disk Utilty?
When will Apple fix iTunes by separating it into different functions that are currently kludged together into one awkward illegible interface?
When will Apple allow users who can’t use it actually eliminate iCloud from OS X?
When is Apple going to make and support a new, stable, serious OS X Server, with the hardware to use it effectively?
When is the Mac App store going to allow trial versions of software?
The list of things to do in OS X is long and growing. Instead the last several iterations have merely offered OS X users a bunch of poorly coded, half-baked features borrowed from iOS, Android, and Windows.
Thanks for nothing, Cook.
Stick with Mavericks, you’ll live longer.
Snow Leopard was also the last Mac OS X I truly liked. The only reason I had to go any higher was for the iCloud integration between Mac and iOS allowing contacts and calendar sync.
Sure, other nice features have come up like Continuity, Airplay, Airdrop, etc, but those were overshadowed by a UI that wasn’t as clean, or made boneheaded decisions like green zoom button now defaulting as a fullscreen toggle.
I really like Snow Leopard 10.6.8. But Mac OS 10.7.x, 10.8.x, 10.9.x, 10.10.x and 10.11.x have been full of damn bugs and so will be 10.12.x as well when they release it next year. Seems like Apple cares about Money and putting out a new product before the others are even working half way right, This will come back to bite them on the BUTT!!!
Notice that when Lion came out Apple went to their new-version-once-a-year policy and things started going downhill.
Your 100% right. That is when Mac OS X started going downhill, and they better start waking up and fixing the current OS and start getting rid of the damn bugs before releasing MAC OS X 10.12.x Fuji next year. I personally would like to see Apple release a new OS every 2 or 3 years as I said in an later post here on MDN. Oh well, we shall see what happens to OS X 10.11.2 in a week or two. 🙂
I’ve been using OS X since it came out and remember paying a pretty penny for each major release and not minding because I new I was getting my money’s worth. In recent years i’ve been getting my money’s worth too. Free updates are worthless when they suck. I haven’t updated to 10.11, not just because I see no compelling reason to do so, I’m still working with Apple to get problems fixed that were caused by upgrading to Yosemite. Almost 14 months with a broken iCloud account and still no results.
I have lost a great deal of faith in Apple and most of the joy of using a Mac is gone and I dread both hardware and OS updates. Macs are turning into appliances and the company is more interested in phones than anything else. The future of the Mac depresses me. I should get about 4 or 5 years out of this Mac, but for the first time in about 20 years I can’t guarantee that my next computer will have an Apple logo on it.
That’s kind of where I’m at. The best thing I can say about OS X versions after Snow Leopard is that they aren’t terrible. While they have some minor improvements, these improvements don’t clearly outweigh the hassle of “fixing something that isn’t broken” or the variety of bad changes they’ve made.
Apple needs to wake up to the fact that frequent major updates do not improve OS X because it is already a mature and refined system.
OS X is at its best when it is consistent and reliable: when users can focus on what they are doing, and not have to think about the software itself. Given this is OS X’s core strength, Apple should be overly careful and deliberate with every change they makes to OS X.
Each change should pass this test: does this offer real benefits to the people using it? Do these benefits clearly outweigh the myriad benefits of leaving OS X the way it is? If a potential change cannot pass this litmus test, then OS X does not need it.
What Apple clearly should not do with OS X is just mess with it once a year to bump a number up.
I agree. Apple putting out a new OS every year is total nonsense. I would like to see Apple fix all the glitches and bugs out of the current OS before putting out a new one like 10.12.x (Fuji) next year. You know that OS will be full of bugs as well when they release it. I’m currently using Yosemite 10.10.5 on my iMac. It works pretty good, but still has issues, and they haven’t updated it to say like 10.10.6 and so on. I would like for Apple to keep on fixing it before another release next year. Why not release a new OS every 2 or 3 years after all the bugs are gone. Then release a new Apple OS. Just my opinion though.
On my laptop (rMBP13) and on my desktop (tweaked mini) I’m running El Capitan and, except for some weirdnesses with Microsoft Office 2016, it seems ok on both machines.
However, in my observatory, I have a 2006 iMac (CoreDuo2) that technically can’t use El Capitan because of its limited graphics card. It runs Snow Leopard – which, in my opinion, is the best version (if measured by its stability and fluidity) of OS X released thus far.
If you recall, Snow Leopard was pretty buggy when it first came out and people hated it. Slowly, over the course of the next 23 months, Apple ironed out the bugs and we got the legendary 10.6.8 that we all know and love.
Now Apple is spitting out a major release every year, meaning it doesn’t have time for thorough in-house testing and the release version is a rough beta and by the time it’s actually ready for release and final tweaking, the next major release is out and no further work, other than security updates, is done.
We’ve gone from super highways to dirt roads in terms of stability, UI design and the “it just works” ethic. If Apple just wants to be a phone company, this is the way to do it.
Im still on Mountain Lion on my main Mac though i updated my older Mac to El Capitan to check compatibility. Haven’t spent much time on it actually to check further but it did break a few relatively unimportant things i use. I was concerned about CS5 Design software which seemed to work fine on EC but need to check further especially in light of what JC says above. I certainly have no intension of paying out the sort of money he speaks of should that be necessary to upgrade when everything works so well as it is and I still feel looks better on screen. But I must admit I am tempted now so will have to get back on my other Mac to check things more thoroughly and decide in the next month or two now that EC seems to be a more sorted product, first impressions certainly makes me feel its better than Mavericks which stopped my natural upgrade trail in its tracks.
Stay on Mountain Lion as long as you can. I truly regret upgrading away from the Cats. Worst move I’ve ever made.
Grand success?
I am curious if MDN has truly tested El Capitan. It still has too many serious bugs such as Mail instability, Spotlight won’t find files, USB hard drives and peripherals aren’t recogniced, Preview is slow, Disk Utility has been shot, etc.
Take a look at Apple Discussions and major Mac discussion forums and you find plenty of examples of these and other problems.
While these problems may not effect everyone it is astonishing that Apple decided to release El Capitan months before it was ready.
I agree completely with points made by Green, Mavericks is the last usable OS X version because Yosemite and El Capitan contain way too many bugs.
I would be willing to pay for a truly stable and fast OS X version that allows user to decide what software to install. I have no idea who genius though that combining Photos into OS X would be desirable? Unfortunately it seems Apple couldn’t care less for professionals anymore…
MDN is kidding right? Why haven’t people updated! Just go to the App Store and read the problems of the 2600+ people who have experienced issues, make a list, and you’ll have your answer. If the App Store doesn’t do it for you, there are plenty of websites and blogs to help you out; for example, try MacinTouch. El Crapitan is a bone fide “piece of sh*t”. Under Tim Cook’s watch every idiotic yearly new OS – as well as constant updates – is worst than the one it replaces, but with his promises of the “best OS yet”! Third party developers are getting pissed at having to rewrite their software every time Apple screws up another OS and update. This is what happens when Apple hires a film-flam salesman to run a computer company. The next OS abomination under Time Cook will be the last for my wife and me, both Mac users since the late 1980s. Despite Windows issues, software works. Apple’s new slogan should be: “It just doesn’t work anymore, but we have pretty Apple watch bands for sale.”
I left M$ Windoze in 2004 and bought my first Mac and thought, oh boy this system really works great. I think it came with Mac OS X 10.4.x installed on it. The Mac OS X I really liked was Snow Leopard 10.6.8. But from 10.7 on down has been a great disappointment. I’m running Mac OS X 10.10.5 on a late 27″ iMac 2013 model and refuse to dedicate it to EL CRAPITAN. I said once when I left M$ Windoze for Mac I would never go back, but I might if Apple doesn’t get it’s CRAP together on these new OS’es they put out each year. I would happily soon just pay for a Apple OS that has been tested in house for awhile before releasing it. I don’t like this new OS upgrade every damn year. And I will skip EL CRAPITAN if they don’t get the damn bugs out of it. Hell my Mac OS X 10.10.5 still has bugs that should be fixed. Are you listening to us APPLE????? You better wake up before its too late!!! Just My Opinion Though……..
Just moved to El Capitan (.1 version) and we are very happy with it. We stayed for more than 4 years with 10.6.8 (Snow leopard) because we needed the compatibility with PPC legacy software we had developed in-house).
So far so good, no issue to report
I’ve stuck with Snow Leopard for two reasons. One is the game Neverwinter Nights, which won’t work on any OS higher, and which my friends and I are trying to play through one final time.
The other is the amount of bitching by users and lack of benefits of later OS’s. Yes, eventually I’ll HAVE to make the switch. But for now, Firefox is still modern enough a browser to utilize all of the web, all of my other applications work fine, and Snow Leopard is a fantastic, stable OS.
I wish El Capitan had a true Maximize function. Here is how I would implement it:
Full screen button on right side like Macericks.
Double click the titlebar to size to content.
Green button maximizes window to max size with Menu bar and Dock visible.
I hate Apple’s current window controls, but I’m not sure I’m on board with your proposal either.
First: why would an interface make the user go to separate parts of the screen to accomplish the same or similar functions? Basic window manipulation should be clear with visible buttons on each window header allowing the user to, at a minimum:
– Minimize
– Maximize to Screen
– Move to Full Screen Mode
and now in our more complicated window world, the header also needs user options to manage:
– split screen
– spaces
– multiple monitors
Those last three might not need to be displayed at all times, but it’s a pain in the ass for the user to be called upon to scroll, use complicated swipes, multiclicks, or memorize many keyboard shortcuts. A great desktop interface allows the user to see CONSISTENTLY in each window the function in a toolbar or, if that is impossible, at least in a drop-down menu.
Multi-clicking or clicking on headers is bad form. It takes a great FAST desktop interface down to the level of iOS, which entails endless swiping and guess-touching to find what’s hidden between the inconsistent apps.
I have found the changes to Mail introduced with El Capitan to be a real problem, particularly the removed ability to use personalized email addresses as the sending address. My wife finds it particularly bad since organizations that she deals with filter incoming mail based on sending ID. Genius Bar was no help. Why remove good stuff???
It’s funny. I don’t use Disk Manager all that much, but when I heard it was “dumbed down,” I decided not to upgrade for a while. I am normally a first week upgrader, but for some reason, I just don’t want any more “dumbing down” of Apple software. Steve made things easier to use than Microsoft, but he didn’t “talk down” to users either. Apple software was sophisticated and required users to engage. I think it is a mistake to try to make it work for the ignorati. Expect people to step up and they will. I think this was part of Steve’s genius. He expected excellence from average people. Just one man’s opinion.
ArchiCAD BIM program does not work with new OS X. Major upgrade price from older BIM program.
I keep a Snow Leopard boot drive for some legacy programs I run from time to time under Rosetta.
Snow Leopard was the apex of Mac development and it has been downhill from that time. Newer versions of OS X are full of shitty little bugs that used to never be tolerated at Apple. Maybe Avie or Bertrand could be lured back to kick some asses at One Infinite Loop.
I never upgrade to the new OS, never, on the day it ccome out. Rather, I wait until it’s updated to the teeth, just before the next one comes. I refuse to be a beta tester.
I kept one Mac on Yosemite until MS Office runs properly on El Capitan.
Why haven’t I upgraded? The UI sucks, plain and simple. I’m not going to waste my time on that low-contrast, flat, piece of junk. I’m tired of paying for fashion instead of usability. I’m not impressed by anything El Cap has to offer me. Mavericks does all I need it to do.
I agree the UI is a lot better on Snow Leopard, but from then on it just plainly sucks big time on 10.7 all the way to 10.11.x El Capitan…..
I refuse to put 10.11 El Capitan on my MBP. I have work to do. Being annoyed by the crap inflicted on users of both Yosemite and the current rendition of El Capitan is NOT in my best interest. That’s incredibly sad, Apple.
Let’s face it, Apple has dropped the ball on creating a good OS with a nice UI. Just look at 10.7 all the way to 10.11.x El Capitan. Need I say more Apple? Wake Up!!!
As much as i am a Fan boy of everything Apple i also rely on their products for my world to keep spinning and its sad to say my trust in Apples ability to release perfectly working software is waining at every update wether it be the iPhone or the mac. A little bug can eat though a lot of apples.
I now choose to wait for a few renditions of a new os or iOS so I know that when I move I don’t stop moving.