“DroidModderX ROOT Master” has posted a real-life speed test between Apple’s dual-core A8-powered iPhone 6 running iOS 8 vs. Samsung’s new Galaxy Note 5 which offers an octa-core Samsung Exynos 7 Octa 7420 running Android 5.1.1.
Apple’s iPhone 6 which is a device utilizing Apple’s A8 and Apple’s iOS 8 which are harmoniously tuned for maximum performance and power efficiency.
Samsung’s Note 5 is a device utilizing an off-the-shelf operating system from a search engine company loaded into a Korean device with an off-the-rack processor.
Apple’s iPhone 6 finished the test in 1:08:09. Samsung’s finally finished in 1:25:19 or over 25% slower!
In this case, two is better than eight by a country mile.
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If it’s not an iPhone, it’s not an iPhone.
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But the Samsung device has so many numbers and specifications and cores and stuff. Could it be that Android is inferior to iOS? Could it be that performance is not just about numbers and components?
Android/Samsung users can still feel good about their copycat IP thieving devices because they have so many specs.
I think that Samsung loads up their devices with so many cores and so much RAM because of two reasons. First, Android is crap, so it needs all the help it can get to work decently. Second, those specs sound great to low information idiotic buyers. Apple rarely focuses on hardware specs, except to talk about the storage capacity. Instead, they focus on the capabilities of iPhone and iPad because that’s what really matters in the end.
While an interesting test, loading programs is only one part of having a useful device. Normally processors with multiple cores do slightly worse than lower core processors in low thread processing among which loading is a prime example. Perhaps a more balanced test which includes using apps that use multiple threads, or even a comparison using 2 apps via split/floating screen may be a bit more balanced.
Hardware is not everything. Software has a lot to do with it.
The whole widget makes the difference.
Samsung wanted to take the smart phone market by just “buying the pieces” but that isn’t working out so well.
8 years have passed now for Samsung to develop their own Samsung OS (an apt acronym for a company that needs big help).
Senior management blew it.
Yeah, 8 cores against 2 cores isn’t a fair contest. It would take 12 cores to make it fair. ScamScum has all the bloat ware built in. ’s dual core is mean and lean, optimized without compromise. 🖖😀⌚️
Bigger is better according to SamPOS. Well a flaccid 8 inches is no good no matter how big it is. 😀
Are you trying to brag again? It is not quite the way you should do it then.
Both technologies perform with enough speed to satisfy the demands of the software that is run on them.
The iPhone is NOT faster. It is optimized for its environment.
when MDN says things like this, it is showing its immature approach to modern tech.
when you use your phone all the time, sluggish performance even if by fractions seriously degrades the user experience. When you touch and scroll or change apps and there’s a LAG it REALLY sucks.
Besides OEM idiocies like Touch Wiz (that acts like a Glue) , android engineers themselves like Andrew Munn in internal Google blogs have said Android will always be a slug and requires more cores because it’s sloppily and hurriedly engineered, a touch interface slathered over a blackberry clone keyboard foundation (Google rushed changes to their BB clone when iPhone was announced and simply layered a touch interface over keyboard base So hurriedly throwing copied code to save time that Oracle is still suing them).
Increase cores also compromises battery life, thats why there a clumsy app management system to preserve the battery. Why the f*** do I want to waste my battery on more cores when the result is also WORSE performance? Would people buy a car that carries less, consumers way more gas and Goes SLOWER?
The fundamental misunderstanding people have about multi-core processors is that they all run all the time. Think HEMI engine. The advantage of a multi-core system is performing calculations simultaneously (e.g. 5 threads simultaneously) vs multiple switched calculations on a single processor (which adds overhead for storing and retrieving threads usually in a round-robin till threads complete). Loading is a single thread process so in those types of tests you are only comparing one core to another core. As such perhaps this test can be expanded to also require both devices to be streaming music and downloading a large file from the cloud when performing the app switch test. This may tilt the results towards the device that have the cores to handle multiple tasks w/o switching them out.
this is what happens when you use a Samsung phone:
you do an action like flick: the command goes to Touch Wiz then Android then BB clone base (the Keyboard base Goog engineer Andrew Munn talked bout) then processor. (More on Munn’s explanation at end)
by the time you get through all these it’s lag and PAIN.
every time you use the phone it’s pain. Over and over again people say the iPhone is ‘smoother’.
things that you are describing (downloading a large file while doing 2 other things) that needs 8 cores is very rare on a PHONE . Are you doing Excel on it, 3D rendering via Maya? If you want that kind of computing you use a MAC. I have a Mac Pro and I know most of the time its not using multicore, not even photoshop. Apple decided 2 core is more than enough for OPTIMAL use for battery, cost (money saved is poured into other components like more efficient processors (see GPU below), better fingerprint sensor etc). One day when it’s suitable (like batteries are better) Apple might go for multicore but Apple is always for optimal use at the time.
The iPhone GPU is so powerful that things like games LAST year phone beats the Galaxy even with fewer cores.
(Article : ” Galaxy S6 (or equally high resolution Galaxy Note 4 “fablet”) both turn in benchmarks significantly lower than Apple’s existing iPhone 6 Plus—and less than half that of last year’s iPhone 5s. latest benchmarks show that Samsung’s new “Exynos 7” powered Galaxy S6 drops down to 15 fps—just 78 percent of the framerate of iPhone 6 Plus—in the same test.)
Samsung puts multi core and then SKIMS on other components like the Pen Holder for the Note 5 is so cheap and sucky the PEN GETS STUCK in it. See MDN article. Samsung is like those camera guys who make a cheap camera and try to sell it by Big Mega Pixel (while using cheap sensors that are BLURRY ).
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Andrew Munn Ex google staffer on internal Goog blog as reported in an article:
“Munn, Android has a difficult time dealing with the touch interface because it handles rendering “on the main thread with normal priority,” as opposed to iOS, which treats UI rendering with real-time priority.
… It’s telling that it takes the power of a Galaxy Nexus to approach the smoothness of a three year old iPhone.
the reason behind the design change is that the original Android prototype didn’t have a touchscreen, as it was meant to be a BlackBerry competitor. As such, Android’s architecture is meant to support a keyboard and trackball.”
Android Software Engineer Romain Guy admitted as much when he said that choices made years ago had contributed to work the team has to do now.”
While I agree with you that 8 cores is rather overkill for the smartphone form factor I’m curious why you would quote an article almost 4 years old at which time Android Ice Cream Sandwich was the latest version to make your point. Android has made quite a few changes to how it handles the touch interface and their rendering architecture since then with Project Butter and the like.
project butter was increasing clock speed and using the GPU , it doesn’t rewrite the BB keyboard clone base.
Apple has optimized GPU etc as well but its OS is built on the core up for the touch interface. Thats’ the difference.
if you think that article is too old what about a 2 year article?
did they fix it?
the iPhone is 2.5 times as responsive.
BGR sept 2013:
” slow response time, and it’s no wonder so many of our text messages end up riddled with errors. Cloud gaming company Agawi wanted to know which phones responded the fastest, and so the company set up a series of benchmarks (called TouchMarks) to measure touch responsiveness”
“The first study measured the Minimum App Response Time (MART) on the iPhone 5, iPhone 4S, Galaxy S4, Lumia 928, HTC One and Moto X. The three Android devices and the Windows Phone all had a MART between 114-123 milliseconds, whereas Apple’s iPhone 4S came in at 85 milliseconds and the iPhone 5 took just 55 milliseconds to respond. ”
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don’t want to debate anymore , if you BELIEVE and FEEL that your android phone is great and fast fine. some people believe in Magic Rocks , others that a Holy River will cure all their ills if they bath in it. I’ve shown you tests, frame rates (from THIS year) , touch response tests but if you have FAITH in your phone go for it. enjoy.
All this really proves is what we know from the old proverb: “Right tools for the right job.”
An 8-core processor won’t make a difference unless applications and the operating systems are specifically designed to take advantage of it.
Otherwise you just bought a race car only to drive to the grocery store on the weekends.
Let’s try to be a least a bit honest here. The 8 core processor is not REALLY an 8 core processor. It has four low power cores used in low power modes, and it has four high power cores used in higher throughput situations. It is a way of trying to bring the two extremes together into one chip. All 8 cores are never used concurrently no matter what the situation is.
And, the test was clearly a bit biased toward a situation that will benefit single or dual thread execution.
That all said, it is interesting that Apple’s older CPU and OS could conclusively and clearly beat the newer chip and OS variant from the Android camp.
Just wait a few weeks. It is very likely that the A9 and iOS 9 will make the iPhone a clear winner on virtually all fronts.
“The Note 5 closes down apps….”
But but but but but but but but but but but but Fandroids say Android has real multitasking, so shouldn’t it have real multitasking? I thought sacrificing some multitasking for battery was just an Apple excuse.
Oh, by the way, a dual core chip trounced an octa core chip, thus proving that Android sucks. Samsung sucks. And, quite possibly, the octa core chip sucks.
Oh, yeah…. Multitasking! 😛
It’s possible the developer setting for closing apps was turned on.. As with many things on Android you can tweak very small areas to be more efficient (or less) as the situation requires. 😛 I usually have mine turned off so speed when switching between multiple apps is reduced. Turning it on allows apps that run to have full use of the memory w/o worrying about keeping unneeded services/modules in memory.
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