“One of the first people to try Windows 10 on the new Retina MacBook says that it actually runs more smoothly than OS X,” Ben Lovejoy reports for 9to5Mac. “The comment was made by Computer Science major Alex King, who tried upgrading his Boot Camp installation of Windows 8.1 to the preview of Windows 10.”
“Here’s the real kicker: it’s fast,” Alex King writes. “It’s smooth. It renders at 60FPS unless you have a lot going on. It’s unequivocally better than performance on OS X, further leading me to believe that Apple really needs to overhaul how animations are done. Even when I turn Transparency off in OS X, Mission Control isn’t completely smooth. Here, even after some Aero Glass transparency has been added in, everything is smooth. It’s remarkable, and it makes me believe in the 12-inch MacBook more than ever before.”
Read more in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Fresh install. Give it a few weeks, as everyone knows, Windows gets worse and worse with wear. OS X doesn’t muck up like the passé Windows.
Agree that Windows deteriorates over time quickly, but OS X could also use some under-the-hood tweaks to animation performance and battery life. Of course, the same is true of iOS in a major way.
… “Windows deteriorates over time quickly”
But … if you run Windows on your Mac and leave the Internet off (or at least off most of the time except for some updates), most of the common problems Windows sees, simply do not occur.
I have one Windows 7 install which has run for 5 years w/o problems or updates by keeping it totally off the Internet.
Like taking a shower in a raincoat
While also wearing double-bagged condoms
It also helps if you never turn the computer on.
This reminds me of the news story from the mid-90s that the DoD had granted Windows NT a C2 class rating for security, which Microsoft eagerly promoted in its news releases. Unfortunately, that news story fell flat once it was discovered the rating was for a WinNT system not connected to the Internet at all. Microsoft finally got a decent rating before 2000, sort of.
http://www.symantec.com/connect/articles/dod-certified-trusted-systems-and-you-part-two
Yeah, because that’s how I like to use my computer.
I dunno MDN, Microsoft has consistently done a better job at working with graphics card manufacturers to provide faster frame rates across the board (especially in games). Hopefully Apple can step things up in the next release of OS X.
Given that Apple doesn’t support any standard graphics cards, I can already tell you that nothing will improve.
Apple should return to tower configurations with industry standard plug-in graphics cards. But Apple won’t do that because there is not enough money for them in it. They give you what is best for them; not what is best for you.
You can’t upgrade graphics cards in a Mac Pro every year without actually buying a new Mac Pro every year.
This is a real setback for scientific, engineering and graphics workers. I really want to go complete Mac but I still have to keep around a “Pro” Windows machine with quad graphics cards that I can upgrade.
Another problem is the lack an nVidia option. All my customers depend on CUDA for their scientific computing which is nVidia’s popular GPU language. (There are cross platform technologies, but they don’t do any good as my customers do not use them.)
A tiny MacPro with a single GPU but a special super-fast external bus to multi-GPU cases would be perfection.
I think there’s something wrong with his OS X install to begin with.
Or perhaps another reason MDN is Yosemite is not Apple’s best version of OS X. I am “still” using Mavericks and am very happy with the OS.
I am hoping the next version of OS X focuses on fixing a lot of Yosemite’s shortcomings rather than adding new features. If so, I would be willing to upgrade.
Did not expect anything else from MDN, OS X can do no wrong in its eyes. lol.
I hope that Apple commits to improving drivers for all GPUs at WWDC. Macs have always been weaker than Windows in this aspect…
Agreed…Weren’t the newer OS X’s (the lions and newer) supposed to have seamless invasion of all available processors (including GPU’s) to increase performance of all apps? I can tell you that the High Performance Computing crowd are getting some amazing performance boosts by including GPU’s in their calculations.
Been running Win10 under VMware Fusion. It’s the first version of Windows I have liked since Win 3.1. It runs smoothly and hasn’t licked up in two weeks. I like it but would not use it as my primary OS.
It hasn’t locked up either.
Wow, i knew windows was torture, but to be locked up and then licked up actually might entice me to succumb….
oh, wait, it hasn’t done either, so no dice
osx still only uses opengl 4.1, which is 5 years old at this point…
Competition is good.
Apple cares more about consumer products like the iPhone, Watch then it does about professionals, servers and the OS.
But they do make most of their money from consumer products, so I guess I don’t blame them.
If Apple really cares about linking up with IBM for more than a PR bump, they had better get UI consistency, stability and speed back to the forefront.
They are mostly using IBM to push iPhones and iPads into enterprise. If that encourages Mac adoption, its a bonus, but I doubt they are pushing them.
Of course it is fast, it is a preview version, just a basic installation. Just wait until you have to install the first batch of updates, the antivirus, the third party software and so on.
You haven’t got a clue have you.
Yosemite is definitely buggy and slow-ish, and the Finder has needed a major overhaul for years now – decades, even. They keep adding Finder gimmickry not many people use, thereby complicating matters, while leaving basic Finder stuff unattended and unimproved.
One example:
You have a folder with, say, 70 items in it. You open it up in list form, and size it to show as many items as possible, but you STILL have to scroll to see the hidden items. You can never see the whole list all at once. And yet there is all this unused screen space to the right.
There ought to be multiple column list views that wrap according to how you have the window sized. Hello?
And how about when you have a window sized perfectly for, say, a list of 7 items, and then you add another item. Suddenly you’ve got scroll bars. Why does the user have to resize the window? The OS should do that automatically.
How about the ability to order the items in a list view not according to a preset criterium, but simply in the order I place them. You can do that in Safari bookmarks, but not in Finder windows.
Why do I have to click to get the menu items at the top of the screen to pop down? I know there are plugins for some of this stuff, but it really ought to be native to the OS itself.
The list goes on. Instead, their approach has been Finder gimmickry add-ons rather than fundamental improvement to what’s already been there for a very long time. Many things in the basic Finder operations have not really been fixed or improved since 1984.
Who gives a care about stinkin’ filing systems? People like you would rather have the entire internet arranges by file folders if you had your way. I use spotlight for all my file finding needs and have never looked back. Why spend all your time organizing files into folders when you can simply just get them when you want without trying to remember where you put them? Computers are excellent at remembering but not so good at creating documents without human intervention. People should use computers for their great memory capability and stick to what we do best.
Hey Luddite — Spotlight doesn’t work well either. Just because you don’t take the time to manage your files in a systematic way doesn’t mean that others don’t benefit from good organization. How obtuse can one be?
Are you the Mike who’s a troll here or a different Mike?
I apologize so very deeply for having the unmitigated gall and temerity to approach the organization of my work differently than you do. I wonder, do you have the slightest idea what my work actually is, that you would presume to lecture me on the best way to go about it?
As for your assertion that “people like me would rather have the entire internet arranged by file folders if I had my way,” I would invite you to support that straw man. If you cannot do that, then I think you have some explaining to do.
Anyone with even so little as a 3rd grade level of reading comprehension would be able to see that I was, in fact, NOT talking about the internet, but rather about the freakin’ Finder.
It is indeed a sight to behold experts like yourself who don’t understand simple distinctions and differences. Put THAT in your spotlight, hotshot!
Windows doesn’t double buffer their window drawing like Mac OS X and Linux. So yeah, 60 fps is easy. Now start resizing windows and see controls go wonky as they redraw. Part of the reason why MS Office and Internet Exploder controls don’t ‘flicker’ is because they’re not using native Win32 controls – they’re drawn.
Windows is like sex when your drunk, meet that person in a bar with drunk eyes. After you sober up you fully regret getting your paws on it. 😛
Windows 10 is not finalized yet, so the verdict is not applicable. Fair comparison should be Fresh install Full version windows 10 ultimate premium enterprise starter VS freshly unboxed Mac
That is a mouth full: “…windows 10 ultimate premium enterprise….”
I have the new iMac retina and the video frame rate is not very smooth at all. I get that there’s a lot of pixel to draw on screen but…
I’m getting the same machine for work next week but with the 4GB AMD Radeon R9 M290X instead of 2GB. Hope it makes a difference.
Don’t get me wrong, I do love the iMac. The screen quality is unbelievable and I just don’t think I can ever go back to non-retina. Looks fuzzy now. Just hoping that Apple optimizes things better before release from now on.
I suspect that Apple’s days of using Intel for ALL OS X devices will be over soon, and it’s going to begin with the MacBook line.
I think there’s a good chance that near-future MacBooks will be powered by Apple chips (A10 or later), which means that run in Windows on Apple gear won’t happen any longer.
I also think that as this happens, you’ll see some optimizations happen between OSX and the hardware that will remind us of how well Windows (especially graphic) runs on the Intel MacBook now.
Do-over installations, fuzzy applications, tiles on the desktop. What’s not to love?
I forgot decreased battery life.
Do-over installations? You mean like totally relearning iWork, trying to figure out what to do with old iPhoto and Aperture libraries and repeatedly re-loading iTunes libraries to get it to to work?
Fuzzy applications? You mean like the hideous transparency in Yosemite?
Tiles on the desktop? You mean like annoying pop-up Notifications or the much more reasonable user-controlled Dashboard?
For every mistake MS made in the last 5 years on their platform, Apple seems to have imitated them — and then squashed it flat and turned it grey so that Retina display is essentially useless in improving realism while using Apple software. Snow Leopard is better in every way than any version of OS X that superseded it.
Up, you are Mike the troll. Are all the trolls lately from microsoft and not Gaagle or samdung? Now that would be interesting.
Apple needs to bring their software quality up to par with their fantastic hardware ! Imho
Everyone knows a version of Windows is like every other Star Trek movie. Windows 10 is likely to be good and many will probably adopt it within a year or two.
Does it still rely on the registry?
If so. Forget it.
It’s still there, never fear. Our hard-won skills at dealing with Registry corruption are not at risk.
Meh. Big deal. Windows will bog down within days of being installed as it always does. I’ve installed Windows on super fast workstations with huge amounts of memory and fast storage yet it still finds a way to get bogged down within a short amount of time after barely being used. Windows is crap.
I have an image of my bootcamp, that i open, use, and delete
I use a New image every time, until i do something i want to keep active or available (add program, bookmarks, logins, etc)
Then i open the image, set up new stuff, and clone before i do anything that leaves extra cruff
I am connected when i do the consious changes, using a secure browser, and have as of yet crashed the XP installation
Knock on silicon !-)
Not surprising.. OSX has become a bloated mess.
Fresh install. Give it a few weeks…….
So report back. Maybe it will STAY faster.
I want my 3D “look” BACK !!!!
I won’t upgrade to yosemite . Is there an app that can make the “plain solid dots” (minimize, expand,close) buttons look like glass? Like they used to? Better looking?
One of the first people to try Windows 10 on the new Retina MacBook says that it actually runs more smoothly than OS X
OH HELL NO! Personal experience. I gave a talk and demonstration of Windows 10 six weeks ago at the local PC user group. Computer Science major Alex King is either DELUSIONAL or a LIAR.
So Alex! How did you enjoy your attempts to get Cortana to work on your WIndows 10 installation? Did she EVER work? Oh and how about that Microsoft indecision about whether to kill off Control Panels or not? Kind of confusing, don’t you think? And how many reboots did it take for you to actually get something do download using Microsoft’s app store? And isn’t it so sad that Microsoft essentially gave up on Spartan, their new web browser? So déjà vu, n’est pas?
Like I said: Personal experience. This article is asinine.
Yes Alex. I was running Window 10 Technical Preview on a 2013 MacBook Pro 2.3 GHz i7 with 16 GB RAM and NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M with 2048 MB VRAM. Bath salts? Was that it Alex?