Apple was out in full force including CEO Tim Cook for the Pride Parade in San Francisco yesterday, Seth Weintraub reports for 9to5Mac.
“Apple’s CEO hasn’t ever been ambiguous about his support for LGBT issues and he was joined by Apple Environment Director Lisa Jackson and what looks like thousands of other Apple employees on Market St. in San Francisco today,” Weintraub reports. “Employees… also [handed] out $1 iTunes gift cards in celebration.”
Read more in the full article here.
“The 44th Annual San Francisco Pride Parade comes just two days after a CNBC host, Simon Hobbs, accidentally outed Tim Cook — who is widely reported to be gay, but has not formally come out — during a panel discussion,” Michelle Broder Van Dyke reports for BuzzFeed.
Read more in the full article here.
Congrats to 5000 Apple employees/families who attended today’s Pride parade.Inclusion inspires innovation.#applepride pic.twitter.com/4DncX8F6fO
— Tim Cook (@tim_cook) June 29, 2014
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Apple inviting employees to march in annual San Francisco LGBT Pride Parade – May 7, 2014
Apple donates $100,000 to fight same-sex marriage ban in California (Proposition 8) – October 24, 2008
Need I say more? Cook has to go!
I agree. I also think he has to go marry another smart, insightful gentleman and start a family. He’s not getting any younger.
Monday Morning bigotry. How pleasant.
It’s 24-7 for iMaki.
I am not sure what you mean by “for” iMaki. The 45 vote, 2-star status of iMaki’s initial post at 9:32am Central is decidedly against iMaki. In general, the people who actively participate on the MDN forum tend to be egalitarian in nature, in keeping with the trends within the U.S. populace, as a whole. Of course, that does not mean that there is not active and vocal reactionary dissent…
iMaki’s bigotry is a 24-hour, 7-days a week affair, not only “Monday Morning”.
“Inclusion inspires innovation.” Tim, Apple is an international company and in many parts of the world where investors in Apple count on Apple selling it’s products and services, they do not tolerate gays and in many, they are put to death. Tim, you and Apple employees need to do what you need to do on your own. Do not drag Apple into your personal issues. Tim, you are the CEO of Apple. If that can’t come first, let someone else be in charge.
Man, I miss Steve Jobs!!!
Jersey Trader
If you are so enamored with those “many parts of the world where .. they do not tolerate gays and in many, they are put to death” then why don’t you just MOVE THERE?
Yeah, I imagine losing sales in Zimbabwe, Uganda, and Iran would really hurt Apple’s bottom line…..
Jersey_Trader, your argument has some validity if it also applies to corporate involvement in religion, politics, etc. If your post only applies to this particular social issue, then you are in error.
Perhaps dumbo that is why he doesn’t make issues of it as the CEO of Apple and only does so in a personal capacity. As for those countries where being gay is punishable by death perhaps we should all be taking a moral stand because few of them restrict their sickening barbarity to those who are gay, but includes all of us who do not qualify for their extremely narrow view of what’s acceptable, even the bigots on here would stand little chance of surviving the first wave of eliminations.
Why did Steve put a FruitCake at the helm of Apple ?
Why do we need NutCakes like John Alexander on MDN?
Can you say less? iMaki the brainless has to go!
As long as we know iMaki and he posts as iMaki, then we can put his posts in context. I would much rather that scenario than the numerous anonymous posts in which the same person uses a variety of names.
Of course, the elimination of anonymous posts would be better. If only registered MDNers could post, then only the die-hard extremists like Fwhatever and botvinnik would bother us.
😉 Yeah.
Seriously. I think the New York Times requires real names, and you seldom see the bat shit crazy material you see here.
Right. Of course the New York Times is just the daily talking points from the Democrat National Committee to the rest of the media. In other words, fiction for rich white Utopians.
That’s great, but irrelevant to my comment.
Innovation=progess
Oh, relax. Just think of this as a marketing exercise–the iTunes gift card giveaway reveals that Apple sees it that way.
In general, the LGBT population of Northern California is wealthy, aspirational, and has an affinity for Apple products. Why wouldn’t Apple take advantage of the opportunity to directly market to that population?
Remember that Apple is a Northern California based company, with dozens, if not hundreds, of local LGBT employees. It’s commonplace for Bay Area companies to have contingents in the parade and booths at the festival. I wasn’t there this year, but I’m assuming Gap, Williams Sonoma, Wells Fargo, Chevron and Oracle all had parade contingents, among others. It’s not like Apple is out there on the bleeding edge of LGBT activism, in fact they’re late to the party.
I’m throwing a parade for all mental disorders, not just limiting it to homosexuality and gender dysphoria. It’s more inclusive that way.
Do you think Tim Cook will attend and “suggest” to Apple employees that they should do so, as well?
oh, snap!
“I’m throwing a parade for all mental disorders..”
In case you were wondering, you’ll be on the ignorance and bigotry disorder float.
Not sure if ignorance and bigotry qualify as a disorder. They seem to be a choice in many cases.
Choice disorder?
+10 !!! I’ll bet the liberal media won’t cover it.
And we need another Chick-fil-a day, I missed the last one.
In your dreams, the only place you will get any action on that one.
Homosexuality has not been classified as a mental disorder for decades.
Didn’t know that cook was a “nine bob note” (UK term)
Explains his funny walk ;))
Queue the 45+ year old bigots.
I see we got started early.
**Cue
Oh, they’re probably lining up.
Isn’t this age bigotry?
Hey, tolerance is only for progressive-approved subjects.
Anything else is NOT to be tolerated! See the baby Jesus dildos at the Fag Fair, for example:
http://www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/index.php
I’m not going to comment for one side or the other regarding this story. I will say I like that tee shirt (the Apple logo and the word ‘Pride’ underneath).
As someone who has been a ‘proud’ Apple user since my first computer purchase back in 1995, I can say that I have never had a want or desire to own a “PC” and never had as a personal choice, that I wish Apple had a “wearables” in the Apple store on their website available for sale online. I’d like to purchase that tee shirt, among other Apple apparel, to show MY Apple Pride.
I guess I liked it better when Apple’s top management concentrated on making world changing products and were less political.
There’s nothing political about human rights unless you’re a monster.
Let me help you out here. Political: of or relating to the government or the public affairs of a country. This is political. Do not read in more than that in my comment.
SJ was very political in his earlier days, making money gradually dulled the inclination later.
Steve Jobs, in 2008, issued a statement opposing Prop 8.
Your argument is invalid.
Steve Jobs also made very strong statements against teachers unions in public education. He believed the union model was totally destroying education in America, which of course is true.
Freaks Parade!
why would anyone be “proud” to be a homosexual?
Historical context. The “Pride” bit was to counteract the pressure society always put on us to feel shame. We became visible and once we realised just how many of us there were we started pushing for legal equality.
Which has all in all been worthwhile. “Pride” is now just the name for the celebration of what has been achieved, and a way on ensuring that we rally the troops to keep campaigning until full legal equality is won.
Because it is as immutable as the color of your skin. It’s who you are, and you’re stuck living that way. You could fall into depression and kill yourself because society sucks, or you could fucking OWN IT.
‘Because it is as immutable as the color of your skin.’
There is absolutely no scientific proof of this oft-repeated assertion.
Pure propaganda and an abuse of science.
Ahh… so they CHOOSE to be gay? What age does that happen at? Could you enlighten us on your memories of the decision point for you… when you chose to be heterosexual?
As a gay man living in a much more tolerant and accepting society not afflicted with religious nut jobs like the USA is, I can absolutely and categorically confirm that sexuality is an immutable part of a person’s being.
Being gay is not a choice, but being ignorant is.
Every decent person has a right to pride.
Why then, pray tell me, would anybody be proud to be an American, a Canadian, an Italian? For most people, nationality is something they are born to like – most likely – their sexual orientation.
The bigots of all colours forget that their fervent beliefs might just be the opposite were they born into another culture and raised accordingly. Unlike sexual orientation, narrow-mindedness is the result of education and thus curable to a degree. Give it a try!
Looks like they had better weather than we did. Got drenched watching the parade in London on Saturday.
Worth it though 🙂
That is cool. There is another annual gay pride event called the Folsom Street Fair in San Francisco. It is real celebration of all LGBT stuff. You can see the fun here – http://www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/index.php
You idiot, that’s not a ‘gay pride’ event. That’s a BDSM community event. In case you’re just ignorant, BDSM isn’t by any means exclusive to the gay community. It’s a straight thing with massive communities. Can we claim all straights practice BDSM? No. You also can’t remotely claim all gays practice it.
I take strong exception to business CEOs like Howard Schultz and Tim Cook who each flagrantly support causes outside the direct day to day business related interests of Starbucks and Apple. I love the products of both companies but it does not necessarily follow that I — or any other customer — are fans of Oprah Winfrey or the LGBT movement. I would add that were I an employee of either firm, I would very much resent being forced to keep my opposing view to myself lest it mar my chances for advancement.
What does Oprah have to do with anything?
*shrug*
Let him live his 1985 approach to business.
Howard Schultz worships The Oprah!
http://news.starbucks.com/news/starbucks-and-oprah-winfrey-come-together-to-create-teavana-oprah-chai-tea
And expects his customers to be in lockstep!
I was just about to reply to you about the fact that most powerful CEOs use their profile to generate publicity and support for causes they believe in. Certainly Cook has been a strong advocate for the humane treatment of workers and the elimination of child labour as well as for the product red campaign to raise funds to research the treatment and eventual cure for HIV/AIDS as was Steve Jobs before him.
But then I saw that you love the products of Starbucks and I realised you lack the taste and education to appreciate such remarks so I didn’t bother. Oh, hang on a sec….
You’d probably approve of stopping Frank Blake from spending Home Depot shareholders money to support Tealiban candidates too, right?
Steve – I believe a lot depends on exactly how one goes about expressing the views.
If it were to come up in a conversation that one’s religious views believe LGBT is wrong, then that would be one thing, and should be protected as long as this did not affect the person’s ability to work with others.
If, on the other hand, one were to refuse to work cooperatively with other workers because of their own affiliation, or one were to be openly offensive to others, then that would be out of line.
That was regarding your line:
“I would add that were I an employee of either firm, I would very much resent being forced to keep my opposing view to myself lest it mar my chances for advancement.”
I was impressed by the tone of the comments on the other Apple news sites that ran this story yesterday. Made me proud to be a part of the Apple community of users. As was to be expected, the tone here at MDN reflects the lack of social maturity of the majority of the readers here. I should probably say the majority of the commenters here. I am sure that there are many more readers who have a better understanding of the human condition than those who feel the need to post their nonsensical bigoted opinions online.
5 stars.
I’ll get right back to you to praise you for your prideful tolerance and inclusiveness as soon as I wade through the public masturbators and pick up my baby Jesus and mother Mary dildos.
http://www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/index.php
Today I have been disabused of the notion that Apple users are, in general, more intelligent and better educated than Windows sufferers and Android borgs. I hope you live to see more of life than what you find on your computer screen, oh basement dweller.
I think I detect a level of intolerance of the prideful celebration found among the LGBT community at the Annual Folsom Street Fair. I hope I am wrong. I think it would be good if Apple would broadcast this on Apple TV, so the world could gain some exposure to the goodness of the LGBT movement.
Kunt, you’re not fooling anybody.
Well Grigori, I see “hate speech” is your forte. I am simply trying to make people aware of a major LGBT celebration in San Franciso that is performed on the public streets in the daylight, full of pride. I want to celebrate LGBT for what they are, not make them hide in a closet, like you apparently want. I encourage you to put aside your intolerance and your hate and join the love of the Folsom Street Fair. http://www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/
Kunt, your own bigotry and hatred toward homosexuals is well known around here, and to that woeful reputation we can now add “sarcastic asshole.” Yes, we get the joke you’re making by posting the above link, and no, it’s not fooling anyone familiar with you.
Fsck off with that. Just because someone posts here doesn’t mean they’re a die hard Apple user. And owning an iPod nano doesn’t necessarily make you a worshiper at the House of Jobs either. Numerous studies have confirmed that real Apple fanboys are indeed more intelligent than their counterparts. One damn post with a few bigoted/trollish comments and you’re all distraught. Why don’t you take in every metric, like the ratings of said comments before you judge us.
Those commenters on other sites are sheep. MDN has a higher percentage of readers who can think for themselves, not just parrot back the P.C. mantra of the day while wallowing in progressive groupthink.
Macdailynews is the bottom feeder of the Mac world in terms of clientele.
I disagree. MDN is the best site for Apple news and commentary on the planet and we should appreciate the freedom they grant us to speak our minds on a variety of topics that might not come up elsewhere.
Wow, surprising number of backwoods homophobic jackasses here. Then again… not too surprising here.
I was won over to the LGBTQTJ movement when I discovered the Folsom Street Fair, the daytime public fair open to all children and adults. It opened me up to accept LGBT for what they are. If you are not on board with the movement, or if you are, but just want to learn and be stimulated and be one with humanity – then visit the Folsom Street Fair. Here are the travelogue shots. http://www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/
So you’re somehow surprised that an oppressed minority who was persecuted and prosecuted for the gender they prefer to have sex with has a festival shoving that preference front and center?
Are you somehow ignorant of the straight BDSM community?
BDSM isn’t remotely a gay-only thing. In fact, gays are quite the minority of it.
http://www.ranker.com/list/bdsm-social-networks/dot-commander
Let’s also address the fact that if we put the sex acts of straight people on photos the same way, it wouldn’t be hard at all to find the same kinds of perversions. Ever been to a Mardi Gras? Plenty of tits, vagina and public copulation are to be found. Where’s the outrage? Where’s the cops?
It’s pathetic you think taking twenty photos of the same five or three guys walking around naked is a big deal. Ever been outside the US? Naked people walking around a beach doesn’t even rate a raised eyebrow.
Ah yes, progressive views.
I wonder what that’s done for us?
Oh, I know.
the 13th Amendment
the 14th Amendment
the 15th Amendment
the 19th Amendment
And soon, the 28th Amendment: “No American shall be denied equal protection of the law, or due process of the law, on account of sexual orientation.”
Republicans freed the slaves – and Democrats re-enslaved them onto the government teat.
Roosevelt realigned the parties, fool.
http://history.house.gov/Exhibitions-and-Publications/BAIC/Historical-Essays/Keeping-the-Faith/Party-Realignment–New-Deal/
Wow i see how people are complaining that Apple is support Gay rights, how it would affect sales in countries where its illegal. What about apple supporting and employing people who are black, jewish, disabled etc. which they do and these are also people hated in some counties need i say moreand would affect sales
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/homophobes-might-be-hidden-homosexuals/
Botvinnik? iMaki? Kunt? You guys listening?
Typical that both arguments here are wrong. Problem is, if you don’t support LGBT right’s 100%, they start screaming bigot’s, racist and everything else. According to the US Census, American has 330 million people, there are 55 million non-same sex couples and there are 639,440 same sex couples. That means the same sex households make up less than 1% of the households in America, yet if anything is said that does not 100% support their choice of lifestyle, the screaming starts. This is typical of the left agenda in our society today. WAIT, at the same time, anytime something comes up about LGBT, all kinds of self-righteous people jump in and start the hateful postings. I’m not saying neither viewpoint should be posted, but America is built on choices and togetherness. I don’t agree with Tim Cook’s lifestyle choice, but that is something he chooses to do. People have every right to support him and his company or not. That’s another choice we have and making that choice does not make someone a bigot or racist. It makes them freedom loving Americans. I’m sure those who live the LGBT lifestyle would not like it if someone called them bigots or racist because they didn’t agree with what the Bible says about homosexuality. That is their choice also.
As far as Biblically right or wrong (note, I am saying Biblically), this is simple. You either believe the Holy Bible or not. If you believe the Holy Bible is the Word of God, then there are many versus that makes it clear that having relations with the same sex is a sin; Leviticus 18:22 “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination”, then 1 Corinthians 6:9 “wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived (misled): neither the impure and immoral; … nor adulterers, nor those who participate in homosexuality.” This DOES NOT mean that God hates someone who is Gay, nor should a Christian. God and His son Jesus loves everyone. Galatians 5:14 “For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself’”. Christians who do not show love to those who do not follow Gods laws are sinning also, they are no different.
Any true Christian I know does not “hate”, or have bigoted feelings against anyone who is gay, they despise the sin, not the person committing it. I have had several friends who were gay. They were nice people and we got along fine, yet I never agreed with their lifestyle. This is no difference than the person who is greedy, or who steals. 1 Corinthians 6:10 “nor greedy; nor extortioners and robbers will inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God”. We ALL have sinned… let me say that again, we ALL have sinned; Romans 3:23 “for ALL have sinned and fall short if the glory of God.” Is it my job as a Christian to point my finger at anyone who is gay and yell you sinner, you’re going to Hell? LOL, ummm… NO. That would be like me throwing stones at them and in John 8:7 Jesus said “if any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone (at a sinner)”. I am a sinner, who has fallen from grace and only through Jesus, the Christ, can I be saved. I will always stand for what the Bible tells me is righteous, but will do my best to show Gods love to all those I meet.
According to 1 Corinthians 6:9, does this mean that anyone who is Gay will not be in Heaven? I’m not God, I don’t know people’s hearts. All I can tell people is what is told in the Bible as to what is a sin. Each person will have to decide if they want to follow Gods word or not, be it a thief, someone sleeping with someone not in marriage, someone who lies, people who worship porn, someone who is a glutton or a drunkard, etc. If you believe in God and that Jesus is the Son of God, sent to be the only way to salvation, then I will tell anyone to read Luke 23:40-43. The sinner on the cross with Jesus. All he did was say out loud to Jesus that he had sinned and his punishment was justified, then he simply asked Jesus to forgive him and remember him when Jesus got to Heaven. Jesus forgave him right there and told him “I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.” Jesus and God will take care of the rest.
Fact is, you either believe the Bible as the Word of God, or you don’t. Understand, “Christianity” is not the only religion that says being gay is wrong, so don’t just pick on them for speaking up. According to Al-Fatiha, Islamic schools of thought teaches that gay acts are unlawful. In the Arab world, they have executed 4,000 people caught in the act of homosexuality. Let me be clear, no Christian believes in executing anyone for their sin. It is God and His son Jesus job to judge, not ours. Our job is made clear as stated above in Galatians 5:14.
Does this mean I will not buy anything made by Apple. That is a “choice” left for me to decide, but I won’t if they push another OS onto my devices again without giving me the choice as to whether I want it right now or not. iOS 7 took up all the space I had left on my devices until I upgraded. I couldn’t’ do ANYTHING on it… it was really frustrating. I don’t like to upgrade an OS until I’ve seen if people are having problems or not. It should be MY choice… you know, like a person in our country who should have a choice of lifestyles…
Sorry I got a bit bored there but just to say I think you will find it was the anti gays who started spouting off vile bigotry here and those who rightly disagree with such bigotry who opposed it. Equate it if you wish I have heard many an extremist do so in attacks on liberal democracies, but like them that probably says more about you than others who can indeed tell the difference between oppression and allowing minorities to live there lives without abuse as long as it does not deny our rights too exist in peaceful coexistence.
Well, that was meandering…
Talk about “meandering”, check out the meandering here. It is nice to see people enjoy the sunshine to the fullest. And who would have thought of enjoying kielbassa right there on the street with your friend.
@Mental Disorder
Wow…distilling something down to functions that all living beings participate (you know, eating, drinking, breathing, SEX) then ignoring context and highlighting the behaviors you find offensive is fun.
Now…sashay away.
No really. Preferably like this:
While I am all for freedom of choice and pursuit of happiness our constitution espouses, I’m sick and tired of the double standard. Just concluded the “Black Entertainment Television” awards last night. Any chance of having a “White Entertainment Television” awards?, not likely, that would be draped with racist attacks. We all need to be respectful of each other. Allowing any groups to live celebrate their color, gender, sexual orientation, etc. over others, or to the exclusion of others is just wrong.
Nobody is excluded from Pride. Everyone is welcome to come to the party and say hi. Next year, why not come and join in? You’ll find more in common with everyone there than differences.
Also, please don’t fall into the trap of referring to being gay as a choice. That’s like saying left-handed people could choose to write with our right hands if we wanted. Yeah, it’s technically possible, but it’s bloody difficult, feels totally forced and unnatural and the results are a complete mess.
Now that is very hateful of you. You keep that up and we will have to remove the COEXIST and TOLERANCE bumper stickers from your Prius. I on the other celebrating diversity by making available to all these pictures from a San Francisco pride event. The pics are very expressive and I am surprised nobody has commented on the amazing resolution and activities.
Indeed, that’s how I always show people how much I hate them, by inviting them to a party and saying I’d love to understand them better and for them to understand me.
Yeah, full on hatred that. I bet it’s how wars start.
Not saying it’s a choice any more than the color of your skin. It’s just not something that should be a means to divide and define oneself. I’m hoping the parading people want to be recognized for and their life to mean more than their sexual orientation.
Please, instead of reading about a Pride event in the newspaper or seeing the two obligatory pictures of drag queens the TV networks always show instead of the crowds of people dressed in everyday clothes, just go along to one. It’s a party, one whose very theme is for divisions to be broken down. Of course there is a political angle, because even here in the Western world there are still places where LGBT people are treated as second-class citizens, but in the main a Pride event is just one of many excuses for people to let their hair down and have a good time.
If a “White Entertainment Television” network ever managed to get off the ground (though, given the overwhelmingly white makeup of most networks, it would be pointless), I’m sure they’d manage to have their own award ceremony.
We already have a White Entertainment Television awards show. The Country Music awards on CMT just aired a couple weeks ago live from Nashville.
hahahahahahhahahahahaha
Thank you, that made my day!
Hmmm lots of interesting comments with a political and biblical addition tossed in for good measure. Someone earlier was wanting a heterosexual pride parade, not a bad idea. Let’s see if that were the case, there could be a Heterosexual, Lesbian Gay (redundant homosexuals), transgendered (externally modified but genetically male or female). Yup looks like that would cover all the bases…
or would it.
Nothing but crickets chirping on bisexuals though. Too bad there wasn’t a union between a man and a woman for them, a sum sex marriage. I guess bisexuals are beyond paying any attention to so far.
Ever hear of the LG”B”T movement?
:O
I sit corrected, I must have been got them mixed up with a lettuce garlic bacon and tomato sandwich, one of the drawbacks of coming from an AFZ.
At any rate, lesbians, gays, transgenders can marry so my point about the union of a man and a woman in a sum sex marriage still stands. It has not been put forth, although biblically accepted (King Solomon, with many wives) and some countries allow a man to have a union with many women so that kind of meets the situation half way, but bisexual marriage has a long way to go. So far you can have a union with a man or a woman, kind of a some sex marriage or a same sex marriage.
At any rate, thanks for pointing that out.
“pride’ cometh before the fall”
I think it is sad that there are divisions of a human race. One race. Many cultures. As a CEO, Tim Cook, included a type of culture while excluding others. The mission of a company is to provide seriously superior service to ALL of its customers. That doesn’t have to include a march down the street. Well since it is started maybe he will do the Million Man march too. Then another, and another, and another….. Get the point?
Discusting reprobates will have equal rights in Hell
What about people who can’t spell?
Correction: Disgusting Reprobates will have equal rights in Hell.
Gross.
Bigot.
Anal sex enthusiast
????
Kent, you’ve been paddling far too much homoerotic sexual imagery on this comment thread. Are you closeting some feelings?
Actually, I have posted photographs taken by a walking around during the day in San Francisco during a gay pride event. He just snapped pictures of what people do in broad daylight at a gay pride event where kids can watch in amazement. There are blow jobs, jerking off your recent acquaintance. Walking around with a hard on. Being whipped by naked ladies. Probably a lot of anal sex right there in the street. That is a lot of pride. All I am doing is sharing actual information about what gay pride is.
Ah, the fettish fair?
Do you see the difference between a fettish fair, which includes straight, gay, and bisexual participants, and is an event about sexual fettishes, and the pride parade, which features mostly gay Americans walking down a street?
Folsom =/= a gay pride event
kent, you are very preoccupied with one tiny event in one tiny corner of the planet.
Frankly, I don’t like the public sex either. But your preoccupation is misplaced.
What about being disgusted at all the heterosexual strip clubs and sex shows? How about you get disgusted at all the fine heterosexual fathers/grandfathers/uncles/sports coaches fucking the little children under their supposed “protection”. I could go on and on.
What a few individuals do, that you may not like, says nothing about “being gay”, in general. And there are ENORMOUSLY more heterosexual individuals doing obnoxious and/or abhorrent and/or disgusting and/or profoundly evil things.
I am still looking for the nice urban outdoor venue where the public is wandering around where men go, with their wives and girlfriends, to get blowjobs on the park bench and have anal sex, while kids romp nearby with their parents. And city cops protect the sexual performers. So far I have not been able to these public displays in the sunshine in daytime on the city square. This must be due to the enormous pride the LGBTQTMG crowd has about their ability to maintain erections around strangers while their partner pleasures himself.
Nope, Kent — your criterion for “horrible” just doesn’t cut it.
I already said I don’t like it either. But this public display is NOTHING compared to the epidemic of child fucking by “fine heterosexuals” throughout the country.
Sean, you have a lot of hate in you. I did not say anything was horrible. All I have done this entire time is show what happens at a particular fair in broad daylight in San Francisco in a city square where people of all ages could be just walking by. I did not judge. In fact I said what I have heard – that these people are just filled with pride and they only give public blow jobs because they were born to do this. It is not a decision they make to go out on the street and jerk off some stranger in public, or to walk around with an erection for the world to see. They do this because they have no choice. These are not people who are in charge of their sex organs. These individuals do not have free will, morality or even concern for the sensitivity of others. They just perform public sex acts in front of children because they are like wild animals. This is what they do. They are not bad they just have no more self control than a dog in heat. The genetic factor means these people have some long ago formed need or instinct which requires public sexual acts, which are unrelated to reproducing. That part is a bit different than the animal kingdom, but still based on how evolution has introduced a genetic factor and this public sex thing is somehow part of how these people have come to not only survive, but be successful and are now putting lesser humans out of existence. Certain Christian types are falling by the wayside as this more powerful evolutionary model becomes dominant.
I think you should chill out and let your hate go. Don’t be so angry all the time. Maybe you need to go out and try this. Have a public erection. See what people say. It might give you some pride and less anger.
“All I have done this entire time is show what happens at a particular fair in broad daylight in San Francisco in a city square where people of all ages could be just walking by. I did not judge. In fact I said what I have heard – that these people are just filled with pride and they only give public blow jobs because they were born to do this.”
Your reference to “these people” and “pride,” coupled with the fact that this story is about an LGBT Pride Event, leads me to think you are talking about homosexuals. There is a difference between being born gay and choosing to indulge yourself at a sex fair. Many gay people find these street fairs abhorrent.
“It is not a decision they make to go out on the street and jerk off some stranger in public, or to walk around with an erection for the world to see.”
Yes, it is a decision. You are using one argument that supports public recognition of homosexuality—its immutability—and misdirected it towards a conscious decision people make. This is a non-sequitur. Empty words.
“They do this because they have no choice. These are not people who are in charge of their sex organs. These individuals do not have free will, morality or even concern for the sensitivity of others. They just perform public sex acts in front of children because they are like wild animals. This is what they do.”
Again, this statement does not follow. A decision to perform a sex act in public is not an immutable trait one is born with. This is, again, a fettish fair.
“Certain Christian types are falling by the wayside as this more powerful evolutionary model becomes dominant.”
Do you have proof that Christians are “falling by the wayside” as a result of your perceived popularity of public sex acts? This is not a logical statement. Again, many people—gay, straight—would find public fettish fairs abhorrent. If this were some sort of more dominant model, or some signal of the downfall of Christianity, why don’t we see more of these fairs popping up throughout the world? No—it is isolated to one tiny corner of SF that lacks the political will to stamp it out. Get a grip.
You need a class in logic. And rhetoric; your rhetoric is not very good either.
“Sean, you have a lot of hate in you.”
How do you reckon that? Because I bluntly name something horrible that is an epidemic in this society (and everywhere else, as far as I know).
Again I say, your preoccupation with what this tiny number of people are doing in a tiny corner of San Francisco is silly — and also has nothing to do with homosexuality in general.
Beside the amount of child fucking, rape, wife battering, torture and more that is done every day (by your fine heterosexuals), this is utterly insignificant, no matter how objectionable you or I may find it.
There you go again. You spew that vile and hateful speech but give no examples. I did provide a photo essay of the many frolickers performing public sex acts in front of children and adults in a very large and public display and I gave this as an example of pride in their behavior. I find it unusual but I did not disparage the idea of giving blow jobs in public in front of children.
Intresting article. Wonder why this never appeared on EntertainmentYahooNews?