“Samsung Electronics is moving to fight back against Apple by strengthening its partnerships with American mobile carriers to develop new technologies to get away from the U.S. firm’s claims on design,” Kim Yoo-chul reports for The Korea Times. “The world’s biggest smartphone maker is in talks with major telecom carriers on Apple’s home-turf such as Verizon Wireless about modified designs in Samsung Galaxy devices. It is also closely partnering with Microsoft (MS) to cut its dependency on Google Android, according to officials Wednesday.”
“On the legal front, its lawyers are making preparations to counter nearly every patent issue which nine jurors found in favor of Apple,” Yoo-chul reports. “Officials said Samsung has been preparing ‘all measures for all scenarios’ to fight Apple in 50 patent disputes in 10 different countries.”
Yoo-chul reports, “Earlier, Samsung Electronics Chairman Lee Kun-hee granted full authority to Vice Chairman Choi Gee-sung to take charge of one of the biggest technology patent disputes in history… Lee was briefed about the details of the verdict by Choi, Tuesday. ‘The chairman calmed down and slightly closed his eyes after he was briefed. But he didn’t say anything further,’ another executive said. Choi, who is also the head of Samsung’s strategic planning office, wasn’t available for comment… Samsung confirmed that it will immediately sue Apple if the latter releases products using advanced long-term evolution (LTE) mobile technology. LTE has been emerging as the top standard in the global mobile industry.”
Read more in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: If you’re going to rattle your sabers, Samsung, it helps to have sabers to rattle. Utility patents aren’t going to cut it, slavish copier. FRAND.
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Samsung Electronics Chairman Lee Kun-hee slightly closed his eyes.
How could they tell?
Ooooh. You so funny. I needed that chuckle. Thanks.
You clazy man, Ben Clatlight!
hahahahahahaha
good one!
Strike back how, Samsung? By actually coming up w/ YOUR OWN IDEAS maybe?
You DO know the Apple Xerox story…
My guess is YOU probably don’t.
+1…nice emphasis
+ 2
Yes, Apple paid Xerox for the IP. Anything else?
Do you know that REAL Apple/Xerox story? Xerox’s GUI that Apple Licensed was missing a LOT of things that Apple put in. Here’s some background: http://folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=On_Xerox,_Apple_and_Progress.txt&sortOrder=Sort%20by%20Date&detail=medium&search=xerox
Remind me again how Apple did an EXACT copy of the Xerox GUI look, feel & design?
Oh, that’s right..it didn’t look ANYTHING like what the MACOS turned out to be. Light years difference. and if I’m not mistaken, didn’t Jobs get a license/permission to use certain concepts?
There is clearly a GULF of difference between a company (Apple) developing/improving upon a broad undeveloped concept (GUI–not even then yet on the mass market, much less on the radar of mass consumer consciousness) and outright STEALING of ideas (SAMSUNG+++) from a competitor who IS creating/innovating features & clearly leading the market w/ those features.
Samsung basically took and iphone and COPIED it. Feature for feature. Element for element. Icon for icon. A sh@tty copy, granted, but nonetheless a copy..
So no equivalency points here, Bat. In Korea & China the ‘swaping stealing borrowing’ of ideas & design is commonplace & accepted to the point of ridiculousness.
This page does the Apple/Xerox myth debunking in an easy to read form: http://obamapacman.com/2010/03/myth-copyright-theft-apple-stole-gui-from-xerox-parc-alto/
What are you? A clown?
Nevermind….
“Your own ideas” does not translate into Hangul (Korean).
and all the poor souls who bought the original galaxy thought they would never get android 4.0
Samsung – boring, next.
All they had to do was listen to Google when they told them to make the products look “less like Apple’s”
Magic *DING* Factor!
But noooo. Samsung were too stooopid.
Weren’t LTE & other standard essential patents already deemed exhausted w/ the chipmaker’s license when sold to the product manufacture. Someone please tell me how Samsung can continue to double dip on FRAND/SE licenses?
i think there is custom software to write especially for VZW and Sprint to fall back to CDMA if no LTE.
and i read when the original droid first came out google/moto had to write a lot of networking code to get android to work with CDMA that was outside the work of the radio chip
You are not considering that this is largely about media perception and PR. Samsung can take advantage of the sad truth that most of today’s bloggers and media just repost whatever they see and do not have any knowledge or ability to analyze any of these statements, let alone the underlying technology and patens, on the merits.
So Samsung can generally get away with just making statements in the media in order to affect the financial markets, because most investors, even professional, just go by what they see reported in the media.
In the end, they CAN’T double dip on FRAND licenses, but that is irrelevant for what Samsung is trying to achieve right now by making these statements.
They should call them (f)utility patents.
1,000
So, Samsung blatantly copies Apple and rips off their products. Apple defends their design and utility patents in court and gets a successful verdict against the copying.
Now Samsung is going to “strike back”?! What are they going to strike back from? They were the one who started the flagrant copying in the first place!
I hate to say it, but Samsung is giving me a bad taste for ALL South Korean companies. I knew they all basically made knock-off products, but the shenanigans that Samsung is pulling are really turning me off to any of it.
Amen!
The Shamstung CEO is angry only at getting caught and his subordinates failing to stave off the Apple response and subsequent bad PR and stock hit. There is no morality at Samsung or high class standards, only profits obtained at any price. The “anger” is fake or faux outrage as if they have been wronged, when in reality they are been “righted” and called to the carpet for blatant infringement. Sadly they do not appear to understand the message. Apple is just another company to them to steamroll over in their ruthless way, but Apple is not to be trifled with and that scares them. Samsung products are on a permanent S**t List in our household. I don’t do business with companies so blatantly evil.
I agree, Vatdoro. I will never buy a Samsung-labelled product but it’s now getting to the point where I will shun any Korean-made product.
+1000
All Samsung has to do is keep doing what it’s doing, building compelling products like the Galaxy product line, and like Cookiewuss and pals drag apple down by handing it over to accountants, board members, and stock holders.
Why don’t the dumb asses use the freaking money they will spend in a lawsuit to go do something really innovative? They are just supporting further one stereotype of Koreans by trying to act like tough, gang like Asian thugs who lack a moral compass. Disgusting.
It takes time and costs a heck of a lot more money to be innovative than to rip off other companies like Apple.
Also, Samsung has been ripping off others for so long, they do not have a clue *how* to be innovative. They are really terrible at it.
Because if Samsung tries to innovate something, no one would buy it. They learned a long time ago that the best way to get people to buy something is to copy from the best.
“LTE” falls under FRAND so how in the hell do they think they can sue Apple, or anyone for that matter.
I’m really getting tired of all the B.S Samsung and thier representative spew, they can’t do a thing but only yell loud and hope it scares.
Apple is the First company to knock Samsung down to the ground and now we see the corrupt nature of Samsumg as they have no idea how to react, the Bully got knock down and shown to be at fault and they have no idea how to react other then to yell meaningless nonsence that wont hold up in court.
“just Purchased a New TV and went for a LG, Samsung will never grace my home again”.
And really only one thing to say to Samsung – “Pound Sand”!
So Samsung is going to strike back by doing exactly what Apple is forcing them to do? More like Samsung is doing their whipped puppy impersonation.
Samsung is:
Abandoning Android and moving to MS? Good!
Changing the hardware and software to meet Verizon’s demands? Good!
Threatening to sue if Apple adopts the LTE, standard essential, FRAND patent? Good, with no legal leg to stand on they’ll get their butts kicked again!
Samsung is so screwed!
And a screwed Samsung is a very good thing indeed. All their bluff and bluster will get them nothing in the end. They just don’t know how to take the high road and if they had any class they’d be doing that instead of fighting their own cluelessness.
LTE might fall under FRAND, but only if Apple actually pays for it. If they just implement it without paying any license fee at all, they will get sued, and they will lose.
The interesting question is if Apple can actually license the necessary stuff from someone else (sublicense?) rather than Samsung directly.
It’s customary to adopt FRAND technology and settle on the royalties later. Let Samsung sue, all they’ll get is the standard royalty that Apple would have paid had they been able to deal reasonably (the R in FRAND) with Samsung from the beginning. Samsung has been holding out on their FRAND patents trying to gouge exorbitant fees from Apple based on Apple’s pricing and success. This is in violation of the law. As Br’er Rabbit said, “Don’t throw me in that there briar patch!”
Usually Apple is covered by the radio chip mfr who has a LTE license.
Samsung vows to strike back?
So, how strong do you think their virtual Firewall is now?
I’m fighting back against Samesung by refusing to buy anything with their brand name on it.
Shameless copiers.
Exactly that’s the best way to hurt Samsung don’t buy their products. Ethically I just don’t know how anybody can?
Oh, screw Samsung. Those assbags.
Careful about LTE threats samsung.
I feel ashamed for being an ex-Samsung employee..I can’t believe that I used to buy their mobile phone before..even though I hardly use it for more than a week.
Why? Do you think other companies are any different? Companies including Apple Inc. are not any different than a normal citizen in that self-righteousness always prevails until they/you get caught. Ask the IRS. 🙂 As it stands Samsung has had no other major issues anywhere else in the world and even the recent US verdict is suspect at best as it will be appealed to no end. The fact that the Court will not even hear Apple’s request to ban the Samsung devices in question until early December speaks volume to the fragility of the verdict rendered by a US Court on a foreign company which provides work for 20,000+ Americans in huge manufacturing and distribution facilities in various American cities.
Watch the news and that should cover off my point nicely as often times the least expected happens which results in all of us second guessing most anything around us.
Hello, 911? We’re being robbed, help!
911 – Okay, we’re sending someone out now! They should get there in . . . December.
more bad info being spewed by pat. The hearing in December is for PERMANENT injunctions. Apple will still be able to request preliminary before that. Get a clue and research before you shit out nonsense pat.
Good to know.
BTW – Did your mom not love you or something?
Samsung has made every effort to lose my respect for a company. I don’t care to support anything they make anymore.
All they had to do is admit defeat and “try” to respect Apple for all the hard work Apple has done.
They can strike back, I hope they do. Just let them strike back fairly and maybe with something they invent for goodness sake!
The question always beckons to be asked. Is the patent filing process in the US legitimate or is it water downed? Apple and others can request to file and register patents all day long but who researches the validity of the patent and even more important who compares it to pre-existing patents already approved?
In fairness to everyone, if the US Patent Laws are not up to snuff then we can expect this to go on forever.
For someone who is always correcting everyone about this case, you should know how the process works. Filing a patent is easy. The determination of validity is done in a trial, when prior art is examined, etc.
It’s PAThetic to have argued so much about the Samsung-Apple case and not even know the basics.
So much for Firewalls!…
“Samsung Electronics is moving to fight back against Apple by strengthening its partnerships with American mobile carriers . . . ”
“The world’s biggest smartphone maker is in talks with major telecom carriers on Apple’s home-turf such as Verizon Wireless . . . ”
Sounds like collusion to me.
I will be and it will be hard to stop as it can take years before the Courts would hear a case like this which Apple would need to file a complaint on. Apple needs to tone it down just a tad as they are starting to come off like Microsoft and that it not a good thing. Human behaviour never changes. When your David life is good and everyone loves your fighting attitude but when you become Goliath… well not so much as now everyone wants to make you eat humble pie.
Samsung is no David, read their quotes again.
. . . oh, and David isn’t a thief.
He doesn’t seem to realize/care that Samsung makes as much revenue in ONE YEAR as AAPLs entire WORTH.
” to cut its dependency on Google Android”
Mission accomplished.
QUIT WHINING SAMSUNG!
You got caught being crooks. Now STFU and fork over the fine for your crime.
Stupid little babies. 😥
“Samsung vows to strike back against Apple”. They just thought of it?
“Details of pending funeral services for Vice Chairman Choi were unavailable at time of press.”
all of people who posted here. I assume that they are apple fanboys. they have no idea how this kind of trial or lawsuit will turn back. if you would prepare well, you could win. the problem is that apple only won in the US. most other countries made verdict which apple didn’t win. who will be smiling after all? I think that apple won’t be last long.