Is this any way to make a profit from a tablet?

“In a disappointing move, Google announced that a 7-inch Nexus 7 tablet, built by Asus, would ship in July,” Gene Steinberg writes for Tech Night Owl. “Disappointing? Well, you have to wonder whether it’s a mark of foolishness or desperation, and what sort of message Google is sending to their Android licensees.”

“Certainly the Nexus 7 comes across as a rush job. How do I know? Well, that foolish admission from Google’s Andy Rubin that it took four months to develop (Apple worked years to bring the iPad to fruition),” Steinberg writes. “Worse, at a list price of $199, industry estimates have it that Google and Asus will be making exactly zero profit. Clearly, they’ve followed the Amazon Kindle Fire playback, which is to depend on the sale of apps, movies and TV shows via Google Play to generate profits. Of course, the real origins of this marketing scheme go back the original Gillette razor concept. You got the razors real cheap, or even free, but paid and paid and paid yet again for the blades.”

Steinberg writes, “Kindle Fire, which is similar to the Nexus 7 in some respects, only registered good sales during the 2011 holiday season, and essentially tanked after that. So why does Google, with no proven reputation as an online retailer, expect to do any better? Or were they desperate to come up with something, anything, in time to present at this week’s Google I/O conference in San Francisco.”

Much more in the full article here.

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27 Comments

  1. “Well, you have to wonder whether it’s a mark of foolishness or desperation, and what sort of message Google is sending to their Android licensees.”

    Clueless “We have to do something or we are toast.” better late than never exec. decision, while he gets his headhunter moving.

    1. I’m sure Asus isn’t making these devices out of the goodness of their heart. Google is buying them from Asus for something like a reasonable price, and then selling them at a loss, hoping to make it up in later sales.

    1. That’s not what Apple did with the iPod or iPad.

      It worked for the PC and phones, because these became “had to have” items (commodities). iPod and iPad are not must haves, but “want to haves” and therefor must have have something special for people to buy into them… this is why Apple took both markets.

    1. No, he’s not the dope, Genes very respected, so that makes the one that can’t take the truth to see it for What it is the true dope.

      Google has its boys out in force, unfortunately all they are doing is licking their wounds.

      Truth sometimes is very hard to swallow, face the truth.

  2. Heres’ my fantasy Tim Cook keynote.
    5″ iPod Touch
    Actual Apple 47″+ TV that is truly smart. (Display your game scores without disrupting your wife’s kleenex movie…list the days selection of movies and shows upon Siri command)
    Sleeker, smaller slightly curved iPod Nano with
    quick wrist clamp attachment that controls the TV via
    Siri. Hands free sitting on the couch…no searching/fumbling…throw it on the table when going to bed…clamp it to your wrist when sitting on the couch. Talking to your wrist is better than talking to other Apple devices, and could pull up Facetime to answer calls.
    If you lose the nano remote, use your iPhone/pod/pad as a backup. The remote would be more exciting than the TV and would fuel sales.

    1. ‘Display your game scores without disrupting your wife’s kleenex movie…’???
      Why are you in the same room together if this is a good feature?
      ‘…with quick wrist clamp attachment’
      ??
      I give up

  3. The analogy of razors and razor blades is just not applicable – a beard grows every day. Just like printers and toner, except you can decide to reduce your number of prints. With a tablet, you have the buying frenzy brought on by it being new but then you taper down on your app and content purchases. So if the seller does not make their money upfront, they may be out of luck. I think that is what was seen with Kindle and will be with any loss leader.

    1. The analogy is perfect and applicable. What is imperfect is all the (brief) execution and best laid plans going by the wayside not working out the way you (Amazon, Google) wanted. Cheap tablet + services&products = profit in their minds. Only Apple gets it’s cake and eat it too.

  4. The success will only come if sales are strong and the component prices drop rapidly.

    Technically speaking they delivered some impressive specs but its a gamble that could end up costing them

  5. Google is doing the same thing with their phone, the Google Nexus. The problem Google is having is that although there are plenty of Android phones and tablets very few are running Android 4.x. Google needs to get the latest version on the street just so it shows up on some statistics report that someone is using the newest version. For Google this is a tested strategy.

  6. > Worse, at a list price of $199, industry estimates have it that Google and Asus will be making exactly zero profit.

    I think that is wrong. At $199, the lower specs Kindle Fire was making “negative” profit for Amazon, who hoped to make up for the per sale loss with profit from content sales. That means the higher specs Nexus 7 must be an even larger “intentional” money loser. Furthermore, since Asus is just a hardware maker, they are not going to stand for losing money per unit sold. Therefore, Google is probably paying Asus enough so that they make a marginal profit to produce each Nexus 7, and Google is taking an even larger hit. “HIgher sales equals higher loss” is the road to bankruptcy, so you know Google will strictly control the number being produced and sold, even if it happens to be popular. That’s not a recipe for success.

    > real origins of this marketing scheme go back the original Gillette razor concept.

    That’s also wrong. With a “Gillette razor,” there is no choice but to buy the razor blades from Gillette, or the razor is useless. With a cheap inkjet printer, it is useless without ink cartridges from the printer maker. However, with the Nexus 7 (and Kindle Fire), buying content is completely optional. The device can be used without additional purchases. Therefore, the “razor and razor blade” analogy does not apply here.

    1. Yes the razor blade analogy fails for tablets. That fact does not mean that some dumb exec isn’t using it as a justification and/or relying upon it. It just means that the company will lose money. Note: Gillette was hit by imitators who made cheap blades. They lost out also. Hence now they sell disposable razors so there’s no cutting them out.

  7. If Google want’s to compete they are going about it the wrong way. Selling this week tablet at no profit isn’t going to help them much. Once people have had a chance to play with it and find out what it can’t do, they will just go out and buy an iPad.

    PS: If Google really wants to compete they need to come out with something nothing else can do.

  8. This will sell, and I don’t see it as a competitor to the iPad, per se. Seems more like a whack to Nook and Kindle to me. And the review on Anandtech is decent for this device. Come on folks – I own 99% Apple gear, but it’s not the only thing worth buying…

  9. the Google tablet is desperation.

    Google stock investors are asking hard questions about Android.

    Google almost no money off android. Apparently ( from its Oracle lawsuit disclosures) google has made 550 m off android since inception 2008.

    Google makes more money off iOS. (Two thirds of googles mobile income comes from iOS, the one third left is divided between android, Symbian, RIM etc devices).

    So investors are asking “what the heck did they spend 12.5 billion on Motorola (equal to like many years of Android profits)?” Motorola whose patents are mostly FRAND and weak in patent battles. “Will android ever make REAL money?”

    Financially Android (which few tech and android fans acknowledge) is a flop for Google. , creating an enemy in Apple (which is going its own way with maps and search via Siri) , millions in R&D and purchases with little profit to show for it.

    To bolster the myth of Android “success” Page, Rubin and gang are continually desperate to spin some Android news like “activations ” (which means little as millions of Android phones in asia like China O phones don’t even run Google services or Android apps) hoping that investors will miss out on asking “Where’s the Profit?”

    going tablets is an admission that the OEM strategy is a failure , a desperate bit by Google to generate some kind of profit and project forward movement to antsy investors.

    1. Eric the mole was just on CNBS with a softball interview with Maria B. Though he was complementary, he gushed about the 1 mill a day activation of Android and the great Nexus tablet.

      Hope GOOG has a better customer sales plan than they had with the 1st GOOG phone when they had all sorts of probelms.

      I noticed in the local WMT add the cheap ass Androd phones are still Android 2.3.

      1. For FAIL history buffs: The ‘Nexus one’ phone was made by HTC and was shat out on 2010-01-05. Buy July 2010 it was effectively dead when its store closed, making it unavailable to mere humans. Apple is currently suing HTC over ‘Nexus one’ technology.

        IOW: Stumble, Bumble, FAIL in 6 months.

  10. “… it took four months to develop (Apple worked years to bring the iPad to fruition)”

    Well that vividly demonstrates how much quicker it is to simply copy, instead of inventing original stuff yourself.

  11. IOW:

    1) Google is ‘Buying Market Share’ in the Microsoft tradition.

    2) The point of ‘selling’ the Nexus 7 is to sell OTHER stuff, like that’s going to be lucrative.

    Have fun with that Google.

    So where is the REAL competition with the Apple iPad?! This OtherPad buffoonery is getting extremely dull. 😳

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