Google proposes Android revenue for Oracle; Oracle rebuffs offer as too low; trial starts April 16th

“Google proposed to pay Oracle a percentage of Android revenue – [0.5 percent of Android revenue on one patent until it expires this December and 0.015 percent on a second patent until it expires in April 2018] – if Oracle could prove patent infringement of the mobile operating technology at an upcoming trial, but Oracle rebuffed the offer as too low, according to a court filing late on Tuesday,” Dan Levine reports for Reuters.

“Oracle Corp sued Google Inc in 2010, claiming the Internet search leader’s Android technology infringed Oracle’s Java patents,” Levine reports. “A trial is set for April 16 before U.S. District Judge William Alsup in San Francisco.”

Levine reports, “Oracle also sued for alleged copyright infringement. Oracle has contended that Google should pay hundreds of millions of dollars on that claim, which is separate from the patents… Oracle said… [it] would not give up the possibility of winning an injunction against Android. ‘Oracle cannot agree to unilaterally give up its rights, on appeal and in this court, to seek full redress for Google’s unlawful conduct,’ the company said in the filing.”

Read more in the full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Gee, how will Oracle ever prove that a line-by-line copy is infringement?

[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Dan K.” and “Sarah” for the heads up.]

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  1. Android Revenue what? from their “app store”? I thought Android users mainly preferred free apps to paid.

    No wonder Oracle said it was too low… How much is 25% of nothing, again???

  2. This article has NOTHING to do with APPLE! Since I don’t like what it says and it does not mesh with my ABC/NBC/CBS-dictated left wing agenda, I call for it to be removed immediately on the grounds that it DOES NOT mention APPLE and because, as a card-carrying Liberal, I believe in suppressing any speech that contradicts left wing ideas, even though they have been proven to fail every time and everywhere they have been imposed.

    1. Uh, huh, the corporate media is “liberal”. Puhleeeze. All of the “liberal” networks you mentioned worked diligently to promote war with Iraq. That’s “liberal”?

      Not in my book.

      1. And now for the facts:

        In 2008, the Democratic Party received a total donation of $1,020,816, given by 1,160 employees of the three major broadcast television networks (NBC, CBS, ABC), while the Republican Party received only $142,863 via 193 donations.


        1. There is something wrong with your first line. If you had put “screwed up” just before the word “facts” in your first line it would have made more sense. As you very well know, employees of the networks have nothing to do with the way the network is biased. The bias comes from the network owner and possibly the editorial staff.

          1. The liberal bias is pervasive in the U.S. mainstream media. If you can’t see it, it’s only because you’re a liberal, too. It’s also the reason why you hate Fox News (besides being told to hate it from all of the other media) because you are hearing ideas from the other side that conflict with your liberal worldview. I’d suggets you read “Bias” by former CBS News reporter and producer Bernie Goldberg, but I fear your head might explode. Read it at your own risk.

            The U.S. is a center-right country. And Fox News accordingly tops the cable ratings by a wide margin.

            In other news:

            Worst U.S. President and worst U.S. Congress ever about to be made into even bigger laughingstocks as ObamaCare fails Constitutional test

            1. Well, of course the mainstream U.S. media has a pervasive liberal bias. That’s why it let the GWB administration get away with destroying Iraq based on the threat of fictional WMDs it made up, a lie which cost many Americans their lives, not to mention thousands of Iraqi civilians.

              If only the rest of the media had a healthy conservative bias like Fox News, they would have called out the GWB administration and slammed the breaks on its violent escapades.

        1. Obama isn’t a Lib. Have you missed the 3 wars he’s been waging?

          Now to actually make this comment related to the article, I am so, so glad that Oracle is committed to nailing Google to the wall. It’s not just the thievery that pisses me off, it’s the fact that despite being a big, multimillion dollar software developer employing an army of programmers, Google is still so lazy that they would rather break the law in order to copy somebody else’s code than write code themselves.

          Seriously, how lazy do you have to be that when you’re confronted with two choices, write your own code or break the law, you choose to break the law?

          Innovation requires doing your own work and finding your own answers. Is it any wonder that Google, and the PC industry in general, can’t innovate its way out of a paper bag?

          1. And it isn’t that there is a scarcity of clever engineers. It is that it takes a corporate culture specifically grown to foster these things, and Googl’s culture is a slime mold on a microscope slide.

    2. @LibTard: Errrr… at the risk of exposing my keen sense of the obvious, YOUR POST has nothing to do with the forum subject. Many of us on this forum have grown incredibly tired of the efforts – mostly from the Right (as shown here), but on occasion from the Left – to use any excuse to politicize this forum. I will simply say that these kinds of rants are not why I read MDN and I wish they would stop (yeah, I know, when pigs fly, but the responsibilities of a civilized society require me to try).

  3. I can’t wait for Larry Ellison and company to stick it to the thieves at Google. I can’t believe Google would even try to settle for what basically would amount to almost nothing. Of course, nothing surprises me with Google.

  4. Hey Google made a simple mistake. They never meant to copy Oracles code line by line. This could happen completely by mistake or it might have been two programmers with the exact same idea. The only difference is that one of the programmers wrote this years ago and copy-writed their work and the other may have inadvertently borrowed some code here and there. What kind of world do we live in where people can’t share a piece of software code now and then. I ask you is that a crime… was that wrong???

    Hell yes!!! Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. You steal and you got caught and now you are in court. They should not only have to pay Oracle many Millions of Dollars but the CEO’s and Programmers should also have to wear an Orange jumpsuits to work and pick up the trash in their surrounding areas.
    This was blatant, This was wanton, this was no accident. They need to pay and pay big. All I hope is they leave some meat on the bone for Apple to sue them because they are next in line and they look hungry and it does not look like they want salad.
    I hope when both companies win they eat googles face like a radio active fat kid eats chocolate.

  5. Well, in the common-sense discourse, the fact that Google offered money (and Oracle declined) means that they admit there is something of value that Oracle has that Google wants to use and is prepared to pay for it. All that remains is to negotiate (or determine in court) the actual value of that something.

    This reminds me of that joke when a man offers a woman a million dollar to sleep with him, and after she hesitantly agrees, then he asks if she’d sleep for $20. Offended, she responds that she isn’t a whore, to which the man replies: “We have already established that when you agreed to be fucked for money; we’re now only haggling about the price”.

    Google, the internet whore, can’t do much more here than haggle over the price.

  6. If grandmothers and pre-teens can be charged $200,000 per infringement, why can’t Google?

    Let’s see… 500,000 activations per day, times $200,000 per infringement… My calculator doesn’t show that many digits.

  7. i hope i’m wrong, but, i’m feeling very pessimistic about oracle receiving justice in the courts; you can double that pessimism relative to apple’s suits against samsung et al.

    ‘slowing down, i’m getting tired, slowing down and i envy you the valley that you’ve found.’

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