“Macs may be a minority of PCs in any business, but these days they are used by most businesses,” InfoWorld reports. “And as more companies roll out ‘choose your own PC’ and ‘bring your own PC’ policies, IT will only need to be more familiar with managing Mac OS X systems.”
“To help IT manage Macs, InfoWorld has put together an 18-page ‘Business Mac’ Deep Dive PDF special report that’s chock-full of hands-on tips, techniques, and tools for managing everything from user access to security from our roster of Mac experts,” InfoWorld reports.
InfoWorld reports, “The Deep Dive report gives special attention to the newest Mac operating system: Mac OS X 10.7 Lion and its Server counterpart.”
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MacDailyNews Take: Why suffer with an upside-down and backwards pretend Mac when you can bring your real Mac to work instead?
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Just think what Apple’s enterprise share will look like after Apple gets serious about it.
YIKES! I’m skimming through the PDF and immediately notice a panning of Mac OS X 10.7 Server. Sadly it does not point out that nearly all the GUI apps are available for FREE from Apple’s website. The GUI tools are NOT GONE!. Sheesh!
AND! Some dumbass (Roger A. Grimes) from Microsoft was allowed to write a BOGUS ‘Security through Obscurity’ HIT essay. I want to KILL. I personally have proven this IDIOTIC concept to be a LIE with no basis in reality. Run along to my Mac-Security Blog if you care.
I wish I could cheer for this “Deep Dive’ document, but it is RIDDLED with IGNORANCE.
Poor show InfoWorld. You continually remind me why I never bother to read your rubbish.
Yet again InfoWorld shows that
Stupidity is a condition; ignorance, a choice!
I cleansed myself of the Winblows stain by committing virtual ritual harakiri. I took a sledgehammer to the Winblows PC and sent it to Ballmer heaven where 72 bearded virgins await.
I’m among the first batch of employees buying Macs on a stipend from the company but there are many, many left to convert. 90% are too lazy or too entrenched in the Winblows ecosystem for a separation not to be traumatic, and many are trapped under the influence of the Stockholm Syndrome. It’s mainly inertia that Apple has to battle against but a journey of a thousand miles must begin with the first step.
On a related note, have you seen the number of Macs deployed by NASA engineers working on the Mars Science Laboratory Curiosity in JPL, Caltech? An amazing number, more than 50%, which just goes to show Mars is free from the bane of MS.
If it was anything like the Soviet-era hardware at my old shop, you’d need the yoroi toshi to finish it off.
I finished it off with a kick directed at Ballmer’s groin area administered as if from a 7th Dan black belt master yoji. Which leads into an interesting side tale of what happened to the right nut…it flew off to Jupiter and never came back….
By Jove! That’s funny.
Haha! By Jove, aka Jupiter, I get it! You’re the funny one, not Ballmer’s nut.
I’m just not sure which of us is the “straight man”.
Hahahaha You entertain me, sir. 🙂
We are not at 100% mac availability at work yet but getting closer all the time. I’d say probably 40% of our workforce has a choice currently so its a work in progress currently and will happen eventually.
The only thing slowing us down is red tape, certification for certain projects and some areas where inhouse tools are tied to windows currently.
as long as iCloud always works, switching to Apple products shouldn’t be a prob…. oh wait.
Two words that go together like ‘ham and eggs’:
IT and Doofus.
@Derek Currie
The “computer store worker” who is telling the world and telling the hackers in security that they are full of crap and don’t know what they are talking about. If you followed the world of pentesters and true security hackers YOU would know that OS X has been saved through ‘Security through Obscurity’. The pentesters/hackers just laugh and make fun of idiots like you. They have spent their life hacking and then some people like you “the computer store worker ” tells then they are full of crap. (whats wrong with this picture)
Derek, you are a “want to be” security expert. Granted OS X Lion was a great leap in security. Leopard and Snow Leopard could be hacked with ease to a skilled hacker. Lion has changed the game and Lion is now just a hair more secure than Windows 7.
And with your “computer store workers security expertise”
YOU will disagree with the latter statement. right???
Lion is just a hair more secure then Windows 7 . Windows 7 is more secure then Leopard and Snow Leopard.
The above statement is fact in the real world of security.
Derek, “my shit does not stink” Currie calling industry leaders in security IGNORANT . Yea, we ALWAYS believe
the “computer store worker” on his hacking and security prowess.
Geez, TED, did your Mommy dwop you on your li’l ol’ noggin? … Yesterday?
No but I think he’s an escapie from the Hills Have Eyes extended family love fest group.
Your “security through obscurity” premise has been thoroughly and completely debunked numerous times. Not by Currie, but by noted cryptography and security experts like Bruce Schneier.
Most of your argument reminds me of a quote from Sinclair:
It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it. — Upton Sinclair
Or “It is discouraging to try and penetrate a mind like yours. You ought to get it out and dance on it. That would take some of the rigidity out of it.” – Mark Twain
Well said! 😆
“noted cryptography and security experts like Bruce Schneier.”
Thanks 8^þ.
I got into studying and writing about security because there was nowhere coherent to read about it for Mac, and I enjoy translating and evaluating ‘pro’ tech lingo into user tech lingo. I have never read Bruce Schneier previously. I’ll be adding him to my list of usual suspects for security news and opinion. (Maybe you should consider doing the same, psycho stalker ‘TED’). I frequently site my other sources via my blog, which I have linked around here somewhere.
To me, Bruce Schneier is the Bob Dylan, or the Ludwig Wittgenstein, of Cryptography. All three men didn’t stop with a best seller: they continued to study, to think and innovate, and reinvent themselves, even contradict themselves. And all three revered truth as the penultimate goal, not as a treasured but desiccated possession to be secreted away from the rude masses of humanity.
But, that’s just me…daughter of a Cold War cryptanalyst…
“Security through obscurity,” TED? What nonsense–you may want to look up the infamous Witty Worm…
I don’t believe in security through obscurity, never have, and yes I am a security expert.
I do believe in a false sense of security through ignorance, and there has been plenty of that from users of all platforms.
Agreed about past OS X security from a counter measure perspective. There really was very little beyond basic Unix permissions for a long time.
No idea who Derrick Currie is and I don’t trust any ‘expert’ who clings to one platform. Generally those are the ‘experts’ who are incapable of seeing the big picture and their tendency to turn a blind eye to their platform of choice destroys their credibility in my mind. i feel that way about MS devotees just as much as I do about ‘experts’ who can’t see beyond SE Linux (a lot of security professionals fall into the SE tunnel vision syndrome)
you “the computer store worker ”
AHAHAHAHAHA! Anonymous Coward ‘TED’ lays another load. Astoundingly deliberate ignorance there TED. But you already knew that.
So when are you going to tear away the mask and shock us all with your horrifying visage? But you won’t let that happen because you know you’d be embarrassed to let anyone know you’re a psycho stalker in your spare time. 🙄
Oh, and this is what has ‘TED’s panties in a bunch, the Mac-Security Blog I’ve been running since 2007:
http://Mac-Security.blogspot.com
Dangerous. 😆
I think its time people occupy the server room and tell IT managers to let go of their 1990’s mentalities.
Corporate managers should be aware that their business may be suffering from employing these IT people that don’t want to convert. I am not saying this to turn away from PCs completely because there is still some value in using them i.e; (door stops, bookends, desk partitions, etc.) but to refuse to utilize Macs in any computer environment is restricting growth and expansion.
If you manage a business without Macs, you will get left behind.
If you are an IT person in a non-Mac environment, get out.
If you are in the IT field, learn OS-X server and see your employability expand.
Just my 2¢
I agree with the part about IT not wanting to even look at a Mac. I run those fools off regularly.
I cannot however agree to spending time learning OS X server, UNIX sure, OS X’s GUI administration tools um no. Its DOA in the enterprise and I do not see that changing anytime soon considering Apple got out of Enterprise servers.
If you want to be forward thinking in the server room then learn Linux, that is the game changer in the server room, not OS X.
“I cannot however agree to spending time learning OS X server, UNIX sure”
Mac OS X Server = UNIX. The CLI is only the Terminal app away and it runs all the UNIX commands.
“It’s DOA in the enterprise and I do not see that changing anytime soon considering Apple got out of Enterprise servers.
I can’t argue with that. Apple shot themselves in the foot with MOSX Server hardware removal from the market. On the other hand, they’d been pushing MOSX Server for ten years and were only successful in the education enterprise business. IMHO Apple gave up.
Nonetheless, MOSX Server remains a brilliant and in many ways superior alternative to Windows Server. You can’t beat the price at $50 with no user limits. Apple give away their Xsan software for free with every client copy of Lion. I’ve been running Mac OS X Server 24/7 as an Internet FTP server for several years. I can’t kill it. It does everything I need.
My University obliges students to rent a laptop computer. Over the years it has been IBM, Gateway, Toshiba, and more recently HP or Mac. Mac has gone from a handful of users to 60 % in 4 years. Give smart kids a choice….
OK 8^þ
Link me to all the articles.
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Just Google or Bing “articles that prove that TED really is a dumbass and doesn’t know shit”. That should keep you busy for the next week.
Giggle
I love how you can walk in, throw your BS lies around.
oh yeah…. WITH NO PROOF OR LINKS…. so it’s 100% OPINION.
and then tell someone else that calls you out for the dipshit you are…. to show proof that you are wrong.
oh wait, if you had any amount of brainpower, you would have noticed he DID post a link for you to read.
must have been too much for you.. I’m pretty sure we can find some Cartoons for you to read.
Ok, TED, since Schneier wasn’t enough. Try starting here:
• Mercuri & Neumann Communications of the ACM.
• Byres & HoffmanBCIT Internet Engineering Lab and University of Victoria, Dept. of Computer Science
• Hack I.T.: Security Through Penetration Testing by Klevinsky, Laliberte, and Gupta
• Google it to get over 600,000 results.
I’ll expect a paper from you after you finish reading it all.
Been using a Mac at my work for years… of course I also have a Windows PC at my disposal when necessary.
Those links are mute. Base this on OS X. SCADA is a prime example of once people started hacking it and putting a good hard effort into hacking it, it fell. Just like OS X. OS X’s pretty GUI are where the vulnerabilities are, along with outside services facing the web, not just the base Unix. HELLO! iTunes vuls that just came out. How many more are there like that? Lots I would think. OS X has not been pounded on by the real good guys. WHY? They don’t have to, Windows was falling with 90% of the people owning Windows. Why ever waste or lift a finger with a Mac at 10% market share. Thank God Apple hired David Rice, that is were OS X finally received it’s armor with Lion. Leopard and Snow Leopard were weak in security. Pentesters could walk right in.
So you guys are SO snowed, What do you think about my comments about the security of Windows 7 vs Leopard and Snow Leopard? State your opinion.
Apple the company that has it’s firewall disabled by default, and you are giving me shit. I see security is so important to Apple, with that steller move right out of the gate.
Derek “the computer store security guy” Your non commenting blog with your token friends posting for good looks. Derek open up your blog to the masses. Don’t hide behind your brilliant wordsmithing with that anti FUD BS.
You said “mute”. Did you mean “moot”? Words are important, at least to me. And what’s wrong with anything “pretty”—GUI or anything else? Or are only UIs contemptible if pretty, in your view? Does a company’s “pretty” OS veneer necessarily compromise security? Here, I’m not trying to deny your arguments, only your rhetoric. Are you trying to convince deluded fools, or are you trying to show how right you are? Work on it some more.
There’s more to the debate than the terms you are trying to dictate, I think.
“Those links are mute.”
– Well, if you’d enable text-to-speech they’d have plenty to say. But then, it takes time to listen to all of that critically, not just dismiss them out of hand.
“So you guys are SO snowed, What do you think about my comments about the security of Windows 7 vs Leopard and Snow Leopard? State your opinion.”
– My opinion, for what it’s worth, is that your comments are silly trolling.
But opinions aren’t worth much, especially ones that come unsupported by self-declared experts as you’ve been attempting to label yourself. As a mathematical physicist, I prefer dealing with facts and proofs. You’ve offered none beyond a firewall’s initial state (which I’ve never needed to use).
I don’t understand most of this conversation, but I do understand the effects of insecure systems. Most everyone I know who uses Windows has at some time moaned about losing everything on their computer because of some sort of virus. During the dark years when my employer required us to use the Dell Slab-o-shit craptops we had endless productivity-draining emergencies because of the insecurity of the operating system. I have been using Mac since 1985 and I have never had a problem because of a virus or security breach, and I have never met anyone else who had a problem eiher . I couldn’t care less why this is so; I only care that it IS so, and anyone who says differently is deliberately blind.
Very good of you to comment, zubonhebi, that has been my experience as well.
That’s two data points.
These arguments are so pointless. All that you have to do is talk to people who use the systems. You will find that most Windows users don’t want to believe that there is a system that doesn’t require endless security scans and purchase of protection for their computer. They can’t believe that their experience is not normal and inevitable. These exchanges like the one above remind me of graduate students at a French university sitting around arguing about, say, music. “Well, I think that Wagner’s music is much better than it sounds.” You know, if it sounds good it is good. If you use a system without security problems it is a secure system. Period. We will have the last laugh. I ran into my old Mac-hating boss at a trade show last year, equipped with a Macbook Pro, iPad, and iPhone.
Yes. It’s enough to make you cry, at times. Truth, zubonhebi.
“I don’t understand most of this conversation”
Don’t worry, some of the participants don’t, either. 😆
It pretty much boils down to this: When someone claims OS X is only secure because of Mac’s small marketshare, they’re either trying to sell some security service/software — snake oil salesman — or they’re trying to protect their job of keeping us “evil hackers”1 out of your computer. The most succinct response (but still polite) to them is, “Balderdash!”
1 Yeah — I’m one of those. We ‘hack’ into systems for the sheer joy of the puzzle and for love of learning, not to be nefarious or make profit.
Here is what I don’t get. Derek is just a “computer store guy” as a self proclaimed security expert taunting OS X as if it is OpenBSD, and telling computer experts who have been hacking for a lifetime that they are idiots and are wrong. When I have heard many security experts laughing at people’s viewpoints like Derek “the computer store guy, security expert” as clueless.
Take one, Carlos Perez, Lead Vulnerability Researcher at Tenable Network Security (Nessus) they would talk about how easy OS X was to exploit (pre Lion) Many comments and laughing at the people who thought OS X was so secure. OS X is not OpenBSD. Far from it. (pre Lion)
Oh, that’s right Carlos is wrong and “the computer store guy” is right because he is a wordsmith.
I sure hope you’re not smoking around all those straw men you associate with…
“OS X is not OpenBSD. Far from it. (pre Lion)”
Not that it matters, but no one here has suggested that OS X is secure “because it’s OpenBSD.” We all already know that OS X was based on CMU’s Mach kernel. However, there are pieces of *FreeBSD* and *NetBSD* buried deep in the innards of OS X. Since most of us here want a “free and open net” I can see how you were confused.