Siri protocol cracked, could port to Android

“The security protocol that enables Siri to communicate with Apple’s servers and return information via speech recognition has been cracked by developer Applidium,” Joe Aimonetti reports for CNET.

“In a nutshell, according to Applidium, ‘anyone could now write an Android app that uses the real Siri!’ The technology that Siri uses to communicate with Apple servers is not HTTP, as many developers may suspect,” Aimonetti reports. “In fact, Apple uses TCP to connect with Siri.”

Aimonetti reports, “Applidium is working on its crack tools for adding Siri to other devices. Currently, Applidium’s crack tools link (here) does not result in a product… Of course, all of this information is subject to change, as Apple is generally very quick and extremely adept at sealing security concerns, especially when it involves one of its prized products. I expect to see a restructuring of Siri’s security protocol in the iOS 5.0.2 update.””

Read more in the full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Apple will never allow Android settlers access, no matter how badly they want Siri.

76 Comments

      1. I suppose this “news” is cheap PR by these cracking guys. They will not find a way, since this crack actually to work, fake iPhone 4S IDs are needed.

        Apple will find out fake device ID by additional information and block it anyway.

    1. Yes, but consider the effects.

      1. Siri still controls the way the info is gathered and delivered, removing pay-for-click, disrupting google’s revenue model.
      2. Plenty of people will conclude it’s easier to buy an iPhone rather than embrace some cobbled together piece of ….

  1. The dumb farts at Apple should have known we can break anything they have.

    Siri is pawned by Android it is ours too.

    There is no reason for anyone to pay that outrageous Apple tax when they can enter the World of free Android.

    1. …and Android can once again reinforce the fact that it’s just a ripoff of Apple’s work, even leeching off their server stuff. I’m sure that’s precisely the image Google wants to convey. 😉

    2. There is also no reason for anyone to work when they can enter the World for Free Money at Bank Robbery. 😀

      Seriously, the FBI should investigate this blatant violation of the DMCA.

    1. I like that sentiment. How ’bout if Apple pretends to be unable to defend against the Siri hack, but in fact is able to brick any Android phone that uses Siri? That would make Android devices even more useless than they already are. Sweet justice.

  2. while its fun to play with protocols i would not expect to make a working product with this information. Apple will end up blocking it.

    The core AI components of Siri are easily obtainable. Energy would be better spent playing there if you really want siri on an android. you could just buy an iphone too. lol

    Oh and http uses Tcp. the statement “It uses tcp not http” makes no sense. im assuming they mean its a custom protocol over tcp.

  3. As a cheap Android smartphone owner, I know all the crusty little ins and outs of Android. There’s no polish. They demand that their users look around on the internet for little addons and hacks to make the thing look and feel better.

    It’s Windows all over again. It’s a cheap version of something nice that you take out of the box and start ‘working’ on.

    Siri being ‘hacked’ and ‘ported’ to Android is just another in a long list of things Android users have done to try and turn their POS Android phone into an iPhone.

    Thank God I’m also an iPod touch owner.

  4. Wow… They may as well plan a bank heist publicly on an online forum while they’re at it!

    These people are amazing smart, to be able to do this, and infinitely stupid to develop and share this, rather than just buying an iOS product and developing something that matters!

  5. Apple will respond by suing anyone that uses the crack out of existence. I know these tween jerkoffs are incapable of grasping some of this, but past a certain point, cracking protocols to gain access to services governed by strict terms and conditions is actually breaking the law.

  6. Riddle me this: If Siri is so easy to replicate, why did Apple pay $200 million for it? Now using it illegally is another matter and Apple will take swift legal action if there is a real theft attempt.

    1. The “Iris” developers and Android supporters make a big deal about replicating Siri functionality in 8 hours, and how Siri is therefore glue code for all the Android speech recognition features already out there. That’s demonstrably false, as even a month later, in its beta state, it doesn’t have all the features Siri does.

      Among other things, their own blog admits they don’t have Wolfram Alpha access, lacks multilanguage support, and most Androids must install the separate speech libraries.

      Among other things, seemless integration is an Apple feature foreign to Android users, it seems.

    2. Apple is a wuz.

      No one worriers about Apple legal threats. It takes years for this stuff to work its way through the courts.

      What are they going to?

      Try to track down every Android user who used Siri.

      I don’t think so.

      Android Rules is right, life is good for Android users without having to pay Apple anything.

      We let the dumb Apple fanboys float that overloaded boat.

      1. “We let the dumb Apple fanboys. . .”
        Uh, you might want to brush up on your English there, Ace. [Don’t they have spell checkers on those “advanced” Android phones?]

        I think that you were meaning to say: ” No one WORRIES…” not worriers(??). Of course, I’m just a “dumb” Apple fanboy, indubitably, right?

  7. actually MDN apple might at least for a short time. Hear me out here.

    Apple could bag a few customers by letting this hack roll for a bit. Let them develop it, let a fair amount of users on android use it and get hooked. Then pull the plug on it.

    In a few weeks the hackers will work around it and then pull the plug again.

    Rinse and repeat enough times and a certain percent of siri users on Android will buy an iphone. MS did this with the 360 and Live. I know people that either bought a second console or just went legit cause they got sick of constantly being blocked.

    Turn the hack into a trojan horse that brings users over to the iphone. simple.

    1. The one problem with this plan is the PR backlash. Apple is justified in going after Samsung and Android for copying their ideas, but you wouldn’t know it from the media or a lot of techy and non-techy people.

      If Apple allows it then pulls it, it will likely just piss off a lot of people who wouldn’t get an iPhone anyway, and lets them add fuel to the PR fire against Apple.

      1. Apple did this with Palm. They allowed Palm to sell their users on the fact that the WebOS could connect to iTunes. Then, Apple would break the link with an update. Then Palm would crack the fix, and so on. Apple suffered no “PR hit” for this, and eventually Palm gave up on the feature, which alienated them from a bunch of their own users.

        Given that Apple is still here, and Palm isn’t, it may have been a good strategy…

        1. IIRC, Apple didn’t “allow” Palm to sell this feature. They updated iTunes to break the feature. Palm updated to get around it. Apple updated iTunes again. Then Palm violated the USB specs by identifying itself as an Apple iPod, violating the honour system, and the USB board ripped Palm a new one, and Palm finally stopped.

          Palm was on the decline, Android is still ascending, with far more users than Palm ever had. It’s best to just block them from the start, rather than letting them (and the media) think that Apple tacitly approves of this.

  8. or another great idea… detect android siri users and let them use siri… don’t block it… just rig it so whatever they ask siri they get a 4 to 5 minute lecture from Siri telling them how much better the iphone is compared to their droid.

    They ask anything and they basically get an iphone ad.

    1. Not just a Siri lecture about how much better an iPhone is but also a lecture about how wrong is it for users and certain (unnamed) companies to blatantly steal ideas and technology from others.

      Google follows the “easier to ask forgiveness after the fact than permission before it” (see latest rumored Google music service launching without proper licenses in place)

  9. Life is good with Android.

    We have all kinds of advanced stuff not found on the iPhone.
    and now do to the Android Wizards we can use Apple’s Siri server for free too without having to pay Apple tax.

    Life is good.

    1. “We have all kinds of advanced stuff not found on the iPhone…”

      Yeah, like advanced malware, advanced Trojan horses, an advanced laggy interface, and an advanced “open-source” philosophy that results in it’s users being held hostage for timely updates….

      Life is good indeed….

    2. What Apple tax?? I just bought a 32GB iPhone 4S. Including sales tax, I paid $358. The next day I sold my 32GB iPhone 4. It wasn’t jailbroken or anything. I got $340 cash. So I paid $18 to get a brand new iPhone 4S. Life is indeed good.

    3. Life is Good with Android?
      Put down your crack pipe Android basement dweller.

      “Google Inc.’s Android operating system for mobile devices has had an almost sixfold increase in threats such as spyware and viruses since July, according to Juniper Networks Inc.,” Bloomberg reports. “‘You’re not going to see nearly the number of infections on Apple as you see on Android,’ said Dan Hoffman, who leads a team tracking mobile threats for Sunnyvale, California-based Juniper, the second-largest maker of networking equipment.”

  10. I don’t think Apple would need to sue anyone.

    Sounds to me like theft of computer services, a federal crime. One that people have gone to jail for.

    Oh and people are planning to commit this federal crime from their google tracking devices — I mean mobile phones?

    LOL!

    Although, hopefully Apple’s security will keep it locked down to begin with.

  11. Apple needs to allow this for a few months until more than just a few Android users have installed it, then have Siri come up with a voice response to an illegitimate request and say “An illegal attempted access to my cerebellum has been detected. Your phone will be bricked in three, two, one….”

  12. I have a feeling should Apple to allow, even encourage Siri to be ported to Android relatively easily, it would be Google who’ll try their darn best to block it.

    Siri is a feature that would encourage devices sells, out of which Google pockets nada. However, Siri, with the backend hosted at Apple, will make Google searches anonymous; which ought to bring a bag of hurt to Google’s lunch.

    So I say, let there be more glasses of ice water in hell. Let’s truly see, who’s the gatekeeper and how. Etc.

    1. Lol this site is for crapple. The reason why Android is laggy is because gingerbread didn’t use hardware acceleration unlike I phones. seriously, Apple users are so damn ignorant and stupid…

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