“Microsoft’s Windows Phone president Andy Lees seized the opportunity of the Google buyout of Motorola to claim perceived superiority in smartphones,” Electronista reports.
“In a statement, he argued that Android now couldn’t be trusted because Google would invariably give Motorola preferential treatment,” Electronista reports. “He sidestepped the question of whether the patents would help Google and instead portrayed Windows Phone as the ‘open’ platform.”
Electronista reports, “‘Investing in a broad and truly open mobile ecosystem is important for the industry and consumers alike, and Windows Phone is now the only platform that does so with equal opportunity for all partners,’ Lees said. While Windows Phone is now more equal, the statement carries a degree of irony given Microsoft’s attempt to replicate the tightly integrated but more closed ecosystem of Apple, not Google.”
Read more in the full article here.
Didn’t they call the Magnum .357 ‘The Equalizer’? The first broadsides are being fired, less than 12 hours of the announcement being made. How many body shots can Google take before the whole edifice collapses? Perhaps Apple will administer the head shot coup-de-grace.
Perhaps Apple will administer the head shot coup-de-grace.
I think it’s more Apple’s style to stay out of the way.
Keeping its hands clean and robe unsullied, Apple can just wait patiently as the lesser members of Tech society tear each other down.
Actually, no. That would be the .45 Colt Peacemaker. That particular revolver spawned such sayings as “God Created Men But Sam Colt Made ’em Equal” and “Be Not Afraid Of Any Man No Matter What His Size. When Danger Threatens Call On Me And I Will Equalize.”
That’s fascinating. Thanks for the post.
Man, both Google and Microsoft are letting loose on the doublespeak today.
Yeah, but Microsoft is a lot more entertaining… or maybe I’m the only one that finds their posturing hilarious.
I guess I just can’t take them seriously these days. Meanwhile, google is a real threat, if they are able to get away with their theft.
What’s “brown” done for you, lately ?
The spin never ends…
Google’s move would actually help Microsoft, IF people were buying phones with Windows Phone 7 in any significant numbers.
(What the hell is wrong with Nokia? Where are their new phones? I can’t believe they didn’t have those phone nearly ready to go, back when they announced their “billion dollar” deal with Microsoft.)
The Linux community will sink Android, because the rights to use the OS has been pulled. Manufactures are not keeping up with the terms of the license. They are effectively open for claims by all Linux contributors.
Apple, due to the nature of BSD does not have this issue. This was the main consideration made day 1 of Mac OS X / NexT Step.
Forward thinking by Apple management (Steve J) saw this coming, yes?
Linux didn’t exist when NeXT was founded. If you are going to be a tool at least educate yourself lol
Ah, maybe not, but “the nature of BSD” is Unix, not Linux.
BSD is Unix, Linux is a ‘unix like’ operating system that just happens to have buried most commercial Unix systems in the market.
I’d say they both are unix in nature.
If AT&T had not sued the University of Cali over BSD there would likely be no Linux today. It was a lack of availability to source code for a modern 32-bit Unix kernel that largely drove Torvalds to make LInux.
Well, there is nothing “Open” about Microsoft, but I do think hardware manufacturers now have a better chance of equal footing with that platform. I’m with the MS mouthpiece here. You cannot trust Google not give Motorola a “bonus” version of Android. The only way this works if Google keeps the patents and divests itself of the hardware manufacturing element of its new acquisition.
Well, Microsoft is as open as google because both are open platforms– any manufacturer who wants to license the OS can ship devices with it.
If you meant “open” as in open source, then, yes, only Apple and Google have open sourced their phone OS.
(iOS is as much open source as android is, while both companies keep their high level work closed source… for Apple that’s the UI, and for google that’s the apps.)
No iOS and Android are nowhere near the same level of open as in open source.
iOS is not open source at all. I can download android right now and make changes to it and release it as dude OS if I chose. That cannot be done at all with ios
Android is about as open as Google’s closely shut sphincter will allow. Neither Honeycomb nor Ice Cream Sandwich code is published to the open community.
Ice Cream sandwich is not even finished, its in development.
Honey Comb was delayed (source release) as they stated they did not want to see it shoehorned onto devices. The last I heard they are going to not release the source to honeycomb, they are going to just do a source release of Ice Cream sandwich which is reportedly going to cover both Phone and Tablet.
Everything up to Gingerbread can be downloaded right now, that is as current as it gets for Android on a phone.
I “get” their reasoning with honeycomb, but I still feel it should be available in source form.
Whether or not we “get” their reasoning, DANILKO1 is correct. Because the source code has not be released back into the Linux community, those companies have violated the GPL, this is not a good thing because the software freedom foundation (I think that is the correct name), can and will litigate the licenses.
Thank God.
yeah, there’s gonna be Android Community version and Android Enterprise version. I think the model has been around from the moment open source was born.
Perceived superiority? Perceived by whom? The morons who run Microsoft?!
I fully agree with you, as i don’t see Microsoft’s creation above Android ones or Apple’s.
In fact WAY below Apple & Google. Nothing has really changed and this asswipe MS Spokeshole is trying to create something or an advantage that doesn’t exist. It sounds too like there will be mostly one manufacturer of WP7 phones anyway – Nokia. These guys seem to think consumers need a bewildering number of choices instead of one or two well thought out models of smartphones. And that is why they fail.
They can attempt to copy the basic software-hardware aspect of the Apple iOS ecosystem. But that still leaves them *way* behind. And now Google is both poorer and a lot more bloated. How long will it take Google to digest that Motorola meal?
First Google, then Microshxt. This is one weird communication day. Perhaps the Matrix is for real!!!!
I don’t think that MOTO patents can protect Android from infringing on Apple and Oracle’s IP… I think this is just smokescreen to distract the other partners from jumping the android ship.
Microsoft would know ALL about “preferential treatment” given their PlayedForSure experience!
Dear Microsoft,
We don’t WANT an open system, look how crappy windows worked out. I’d rather be secure behind my big Mac Osx or iOS wall of rejection from crappy apps.
Dear ignorant Mac user, your perceived safety behind OSx and iOS is a hoax created by your ignorance. Windows is way MORE secure than Apple’s product. Read this —
http://www.infoworld.com/t/hacking/apple-security-under-attack-the-view-windows-169586
Shhhhh! Don’t let MDN hear you perpetuating security-via-obscurity. They can’t handle that bit of truth.
Actually, the article (or the other poster’s reference to it) really has nothing at all to do with the principle of security through obscurity, but hey – don’t let that stop you from making ignorant, snarky, uninformed remarks.
Learn how to read, dumbfuck.
“Simply because Macs are in the minority, owning a Mac means you might be “safer” than if you owned a Windows computer.”
Apparently you read headlines only.
Your article is pre-Lion. Mac OSX now includes full disk encryption, system-wide sandboxing, library randomization, etc. And now that adobe flash is no longer bundled with Safari in Lion, I have a strong feeling that hackers will have a much tougher time next year. Meanwhile, obscurity doesn’t hurt either. Whatever keeps viruses off my system without having to run resource hungry anti-virus software.
Horse Shit.
6 Macs, 4 iPods, 2 iPhones…10 years on the net, no anti-virus software, ever. No viruses, no problems. Try that with Windows.
Off topic? – troll.
Bating statement on Mac faboi site? – troll.
Dear ignorant Windows user.
I’d come across as ill informed as you do if I were to claim Windows 95 was MS’s current offering.
@Mark
WRONG,
New Report Proves OSX is more Secure then Any OS Now and getting better all the time.
Experts: OS X now much more secure than rivals
“Consultants with several computer security firms say that Wednesday’s release of Mac OS X Lion makes it “king of the jungle” in terms of mainstream operating system security, surging ahead of rivals such as Windows 7 and Ubuntu Linux with very signifiant security overhauls throughout the OS, reports The Register, including a robust implementation of ALSR, sandboxing of vulnerable processes, and locking down web interactions.’ ETC…
Read it Yourself.
http://www.macnn.com/articles/11/07/23/leapfrogs.windows.7.linux.but.still.not.perfect/
You Apple Haters Never Quit, And Most of al,l “Never get Anything Correct” Either.
This is Nothing but a Click Bait Story that you misunderstood, Did you even read the story and understand what they said in it.
No You didn’t, you assumed that with a title like that it was against Apple, go back and read it again then look at the number that are mismatched and then try to use the concept of “Brain Function” to understand what the article meant.
Also its full of Holes like this form Reader David Stone;
“The Black Hat post never corrected the fact the Apple disabled DHX and forcing DHX2 in Lion which was already out be the time the presentation came out.
Just look at all the NAS providers coming out with updated firmware with that latest beta of Netatalk so they can provide DHX2 authentication.”
Quote form reader Will O’Neal:
“It seems to me the author is comparing Windows 7 vulnerabilities (released October 22, 2009) to OS X vulnerabilities (released in 1999). The first advisory for Win 7 is dated in 2007; the first for OS X is dated 2002. If that is what he did, then technically, he is correct, but since OS X predates Windows 7 by almost a decade, I think he’s off track. If you compare Windows 7, Vista, and XP Pro to all versions of OS X, Windows has almost 4 x the number of vulnerabilities.”
Apple Haters are All the Same..
Dear lying moron, saying that Windows is WAY more secure than Apple’s products is like saying the original Ford Pinto has a WAY lower chance of bursting into flames when it’s rear ended than everything made by Volvo.
Linking to an article writen by another lying moron doesn’t make your comment any more factual. Roger A. Grimes even drags out the old “scurity through obscurity” hoax, never mind that Mac OS 1 to 9 had real (and very nasty) viruses despite enjoying a vastly lower marketshare than OS X and iOS do today.
Then we have Charlie Miller, who not only has pre-compromised Macs by disabling security settings that are turned on by default before he took them to Black Hat and “hacked” them in “record time”, but seems to be incapable of doing anything more than devising non-self-installing trojans and “breaking into” Macs he has physical access to, as well as the aformentioned ones where he rigged the system ahead of time.
Finally there’s Secunia. I absolutely love it when idiots try to use Secunia to prove that Windows is a secure OS, because what Secunia actually proves is that Windows is the least secure operating system in existence and Microsoft has no handle whatsoever on security, not even kind of.
Here’s the top of their advisories page: http://secunia.com/advisories
Current highlights?
Microsoft Windows DNS Service Two Vulnerabilities, highly critical, issued 7 days ago.
Microsoft Windows TCP/IP Stack Denial of Service Vulnerabilities, moderately critical, issued 7 days ago.
Microsoft Internet Explorer Multiple Vulnerabilities, issued July 26th, highly critical. “Multiple vulnerabilities have been reported in Internet Explorer, which can be exploited by malicious people to conduct cross-site scripting attacks, disclose sensitive information, and compromise a user’s system”. That one’s my favourite.
There are no viruses, no worms, no self-installing malware of any kind for either OS X or iOS. The so called exploits that have been discovered for them have proven themselves to be impossible to take advantage of out in the wild. Nobody can hack their way into Mac OS X 10.0 or write self-installing, self-replicating malware for it even today, let alone 10.7 Lion. Meanwhile, Windows(up to and including 7) continues to drown in an ocean of it as tools like you and Roger hop up and down while waving your hands, shouting “NO IT ISN’T! NO IT ISN’T! WINDOWS IS THE MOST SECURE!”.
You might as well be insisting the Titanic is still sailing the ocean and actually it’s every other boat that sank.
I was going to end this by saying if Hell exists there must be an extra special place in it for punks like you, but then I realized there already does is: it’s called Microsoft’s ecosystem.
Equal? Is Microsoft not paying one vendor to use their OS while charging the others?
“Investing in a broad and truly open mobile ecosystem is important for the industry and consumers alike, and Windows Phone is now the only platform that does so with equal opportunity for all partners,’”
Investing in a platform with 3-5% market share and zero mindshare? Hmmm that’s tough.
Windows is anything but open! Microsoft perverts the term ‘open’ to suit its monopolistic needs!
“zuned” is now an official word
I always assumed that “zuned” meant getting a cheap substitute for what you really wanted at Christmas. As in, “I asked Santa for an iPod, but I got Zuned.”
I’m not a native speaker, so I have no authority of that word…
actually, I thought the PlayedForSure licencees were the ones who had been zuned. As in, “I thought we were partners.”
the statement carries a degree of irony given Microsoft’s attempt to replicate the tightly integrated but more closed ecosystem of Apple, not Google.
AKA Microsoft’s investment in NOKIA
Oops Microsoft. Caught again.
Window can never Mach apple (to slow and always locks up)
Every tech companies out there should learn from Apple on how to keep mouth shut and not to make a fool of themselves.
All other tech companies such as Microsoft, Nokia, Google, Adobe…etc always act like a spoiled kid “shouting” at each other while Apple innovate like crazy.
my 2 cents…
To all you windows ostriches on MDN, the battle is over and SJ and Apple have been proved right on every turn, I work for IBM and had their laptop connected to my network along with 3 other Mac boxes, I have never, repeat never have a virus or trogan on my Mac systems since I started using Macs way back in 1984. I just spent, make that loss an entire week dealing with virus infections on my “SECURE IBM THINKPAD running windows XP”.So please drop the BS about obscurity, it’s a ridiculous, desperate and spurious argument of the delusional, when real life facts stare you in the face, and even if it were true it would still not change the fact that Macs are more secure… the reason they are more secure is not the issue, the fact is they ARE MORE SECURE regardless of the reason. So crawl back into your delusional world and continue jousting at windmills. Apple will continue to convince those willing to kitten of their practical superiority.
+1 for don quixote reference
Spell Check: TROJAN, …. willing to LISTEN … it’s late and I’m tired from dealing with those viruses on my Windows PC.
@Roguedog;
Understood, Trying to keep up with all the haters and mis-information can also add to fatigue.
Get some rest.
I feel more secure with my Lion Server and Desktops more now then I have ever, These stories posted about bad Apple OS Security are taken from Snow Leopard and Apple has Addressed those issues last week with a security patch.
Lion on the other hand is so much more secure with all the new code that it has astounded security experts, But haters want to talk about old things and not move on to what is at hand today, As with all the old Crap they sell in hardware no forward thinking.
I have 2 Win7 boxes that are a nightmare they need so much more time then any of my Macs.
But try to tell a hater that Macs are better in Security then Win Pc Boxes and you get 1000 plus excuses on why Win boxes are better. “Bull SH**”
And what has been pointed out by others at the Black Hat Security event is that,
Quote from facebook_Michael
“Every type of attack mentioned involves social engineering rather than a shortcoming of the operating system. Without a password obtained via a human being, no attack can occur.”
So yes, Macs are more secure then they have been, and more secure then Win Boxes for sure. But security is a 2 way street, the operator needs to hold some common sense also to understand that threats are everywhere.
So when Microsoft bought Nokia that’s different because….?
if you dont have any anti virus / spyware running on your Mac how do you know you haven’t got a virus or trogen , when you are not running any software to check the you are virus / trogen/malware/spyware free?
wasnt this debate about window mobile phones and not a thrash it widow7 mac lion
Ps I have both a windows 7 pc a ma. Lion MacBook and an iPhone 4 , ipad1
And they all have there good points and bad points, it just the idiots that use them don’t understand the security issue s of using a device to connect to the web, it dosnt matter if it’s a phone, iPad or windows/mac pc if you connect to the web on open wifi you put you self at risk of been stung with a keyloger
@ Christopher clarke; well its simple, you don’t take an aspirin to determine if you have a headache, you take an aspirin to get rid of the headache… right? the way i see it its the same with virus software, unless of course you’re in the business of selling the software.