“Nokia‘s new superphones will offer a superior user interface and a better, cloud-enabled experience than its chief competitors, the company’s top U.S executive told [us],” Matt Marshall reports for VentureBeat. “The reliance by Apple and Android phones on the ‘app’ as the central metaphor is ‘outdated,’ he said.”
MacDailyNews Take: Apps are “outdated” for every company that has none to offer.
Marshall reports, “Until now, many people had hoped to see Nokia’s first U.S. smartphones based on Windows Phone 7 as early as this year. But under questioning, Chris Weber, President of Nokia, head of North America, would confirm only that the phones would first hit the U.S. ‘in volume’ in 2012. He said Nokia CEO Stephen Elop had committed only to releasing a Nokia Windows Phone device ”somewhere” this year, but would not say whether this would be in more than one market or whether or not the U.S. would be included.”
MacDailyNews Take: Where are these many hopeful people? And, forget about “when,” nobody cares if they’re released or not. The main hope for Windows Phone ’07 is that Android becomes so unattractive due to its infringement of Apple’s, Oracle’s, and Jobs-knows-whose-else’s, patents that phone assemblers like Motorola, Samsung, etc. all flock to Microsoft out of desperation.
Marshall reports, “Weber called Android and the iOS phone platforms ‘outdated.’ While Apple’s iPhone, and its underlying iOS operating system, set the standard for a modern user interface with “pinch and zoom,” Weber conceded, it also forces people to download multiple applications which they then have to navigate between. There’s a lot of touching involved as you press icons or buttons to activate application features.”
“Nokia, by contrast, will offer a more seamless and efficient interface with its ‘live tiles and hubs’ approach. It does this via Microsoft’s Windows Phone operating system, where applications will be integrated into everything you do,” Marshall reports. “Still, much of this ‘hubs and tiles’ approach has been a feature of Microsoft’s Windows Phone OS since its launch about a year ago. It has yet to demonstrate significant traction, though it’s also early days still.”
MacDailyNews Take: “Live tiles and hubs” is the kind of song and dance you do when you have no ecosystem, developer support, or apps of which to speak. “Live tiles and hubs” is a 4 sq. inch. patch trying to cover an entire world of missing apps. We can clearly see what you’re trying to hide Microkia.
“‘We’re way ahead of them [Apple and Google],’ Weber said, referring to exploiting cloud technology to offer things like cross-platform services in the enterprise,” Marshall reports.
Read more bullshit from a failing company’s marketing flack in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Nokia couldn’t do it themselves, so they desperately turned to Microsoft to not only provide them a CEO, but an operating system that’s not only woefully late, but also brings precious little that’s compelling, as sales figures attest. Still, Nokia continues to have delusional executives on board who have the gall to claim Apple’s iOS is outdated and that they’re “way ahead.”
The only place where Nokia’s “way ahead” of Apple is on the road to bankruptcy. Way, way, way ahead.
Dude’s gotta be shroomin’. This sort of deluded thinking is why Nokia has been and will continue to fail hard: A fish rots from the head down.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Readers “Fred Mertz” and “N8nNC” for the heads up.]
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They is like the primal sludge calling the Dinosaur primitive!
Flow back to your lowest point there Nokia!
It is amazing the scope of the blatant gaul and disingenuous (outright false) market-speak of desperate soon to be DOA companies can be. Reminds of a poster for the movie WILLOW which said “Forget All You Know…” (PLEASE?!?) Or “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain,” or, “Never mind what you see, listen to what I’m saying…” Nokia IS a river in denial. DCW.
Nokia IS a river in denial.
Wow, scrambled metaphor.
“Denial (the Nile) ain’t just a river in Egypt”
What I expect is a Nokia spinoff that will take most of Nokia’s knowhow and patent portefolio, and leave a small part of the company behind for the new CEO and for marketing Windows 7.5 phones.
“There’s a lot of touching involved as you press icons or buttons to activate application features.””
Yes, that’s typically how you activate the program you want. How else would you do it? Mind control?
““Nokia, by contrast, will offer a more seamless and efficient interface with its ‘live tiles and hubs’ approach.”
And you DONT have to touch these things?
no, you press buttons on a tethered remote control…
Maybe use the Microsoft Indiotic Mouse that will have eight buttons, full size trackball, red clit button ala Thinkpad, slide out trackpad…
For it to be red, something is probably touching it.
They have no apps, therefore very little touching involved! They are way ahead.
In this case, FUD = Fantasy, Unreasonableness and Delusion.
Apparently Nokia has jumped from the burning platform on to the burning ship of fools.
Somehow, the name ‘Windows’ on anything makes me feel revulsive.
Revulsive? What the hell does that mean?
Color me revolted.
Control – Command – d = No entries found
“Dude’s gotta be shroomin’”
Dr. Pepper: meet LCD; LCD, Dr. Pepper.
Did you mean LSD?
“Back in the sixties he was part of the Free Speech movement at Berkeley. I think he had a little too much LDS.” —Kirk
Oh, never mind. I must have been shroomin’ too. I didn’t think you meant you spewed on your screen.
Dude? Geez! You sound like MDN?! Grow up dudes!!!
If they think the Apple iOS is outdated, why can’t they even keep up with the old technology? It will be a sad day for MS and Nokia when iOS5 comes out- they have a tough enough time trying to compete with the outdated iOS.
co-sign! 10,000%
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iOS outdated? lol how about is Symbian & MeeGo? Both DOA. Where’s YOUR OS Nokia? Oh, it’s WM7? Ok.
Is there something in the Perrier that these execs drink? What kind of bubble do they inhabit??
Those pinstripes are looking rather washed out…
Why are all the people in the companies that are loosing market share to Apple saying that what Apple is doing wont last? As I see it the key to succeeding in any business is knowing “who is your client”. After you analyze this then you know what they want even if they don’t know themselves. I think all of those who say Apple is a flash in the pan must be descendants of Emperor Nero.
loosing? what?
were they tight before?
Apostrophe please.
This reminds me of the old Abraham Lincoln quote, “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.”
Mark Twain , actually!!
Solomon’s Proverbs.
Old chinese saying, “If you are going to speak, make sure it’s better then your silence”
Emil, you should have paid attention to the quote.
Maybe they have invented another paradigm and accompanying metaphors for mobile computing. But if this paradigm does not offer the same flexibility that the OS/App metaphor allows, Nokia will just have made a future addition to the Smithsonian…right next to the CP?M machine and the Commodore Amiga. People like choice in what their device does.
just my $0.02
You do have to seriously wonder if they just say this kind of thing for internal political reasons. Certainly they can’t believe this themselves or think that anyone is going to decide not to buy an iPhone because they proclaim that it is outdated.
That would just be ignorant.
”somewhere” would be Finland, I guess.
Sing along with Monty Python:
Finland, Finland, Finland, the country where I quite want to be….
How can you be “way ahead” of an “outdated iOS” but yours handset is not even out on the market? Do these CEO’s ever realize how stupid they sound and are?
And you would think Nokia should know a lot about being outdated !
So when you press a tile…. you…. wait for it…. start an app…. Isn’t that pretty much so smoke and mirrors for doing the same thing as the iOS? For example, You can enter use a physical key to enter door or you can enter a code but at the end of the day it’s doing the same thing only the interface is different. No matter what your phone does there has to be some underlying code whether it is an installed app or something in the cloud.
No dude.. this thing has “windows” in its name.. you click a “tile” and wait for an error message…. a cryptic one at that
Ok so yeah, iOS is pretty old. But the software is ageless. My three year old iPod still seems brand new, just because it has the best software.
I think that Nokia feels threat for market share of smartphone lately. that’s why they made a comment which makes no sense at all. apple’s iOS is the fastest development pace in mobile phone industry. Apple updates very quickly unlikely other shitty companies. it’s very responsible, intuitive, simple. the most important thing is that it works very well without any problem. don’t call it ‘outdated’. are they got drunken or something?
oh man, that is rich. Outdated? How about to make something in-date for once Nokia, you guys had the late 90’s early ’00s. I would say Nokia was a low cost candybar phone manufacturer that was outdated then. Then Apple drops the iPhone and every phone out there becomes out-dated in April 2007. Apple showed all the companies specializing in making phones, how to make a proper phone.
Every smart phone since than has been chasing AAPL’s phone and stock price. What they do not get, are phones are now longer fashion accessories. They have gone beyond a simple phone. Part of that is the itunes/cloud/mac ecosystem. Without that Nokia, your phone is just a fashion accessory or the anti-iPhone. No one will proudly pull their Nokia out with iPhones out. No one will buy your phone and you will be forced you give them away with BOGOs. Like all those phone companies that can not even give their phones away.
This is the biggest group of contented bodies and discontented minds
Honestly, these CEO’s are ridiculous. It’s like a drowning man pointing his finger at an olympic swimmer and telling the world the olympic swimmer doesn’t know how to swim.
How in the hell is the iOS platform outdated when practically every smartphone company in the world has been trying to copy it for the last few years. I don’t doubt that there can be other mobile OSes that have good usability for consumers, but to call iOS outdated is just plain stupid. The Live Tiles metaphor in theory seems interesting and useful but there’s no guarantee that most consumers will take to it. I thought even Stephen Elop had already said that he wanted Nokia to do a better job bring their smartphones to iPhone standards. I’m rather certain a company knows when their devices have become outdated when consumers stop buying them. Why didn’t Nokia realize that its own Symbian platform had become outdated before the major loss of market share started.
Of course it’s outdated! Any shipping system is obsolete. I’m living on the iOS 5 developer builds, and I can’t wait to see what Apple comes up with for iOS 6.
-jcr
You beat me to the punch; of course, the fact that it came from Nokia is amusing to say the least…
[i]The reliance by Apple and Android phones on the “app” as the central metaphor is “outdated,” he said.[/i]
Nokia has made a tremendous breakthrough. Every app ever conceived or ever will be conceived will run simultaneously, not only redefining the term “smart phone” but destroying the concept of infinity by squeezing everything into the confines of a small rectangle that’s thin, too. And snappy.
Or maybe the phone will call the cloud, where more servers than the universe has electrons will exist. The phone will be named Gaia.
well, this Nokia guy has to hype something, since what he has to sell now is all turing to sh*t. so here comes the Superphone! well, next year anyway. and it will be the Latest and Greatest! you won’t even need apps.
when you boil this all down, he’s talking about a new generation of smart feature phones, some very cheap. actually there could be a market for that. everyone doesn’t need all the power of a smartphone. Nokia is looking for a niche where it can at least survive.
and at least he didn’t say “magical.”