Electronista reports, “‘HP will stop making announcements for stuff it doesn’t have,’ Apotheker said.”
MacDailyNews Take: Now, that’s innovative – for HP.
Electronista reports, “He also revealed the surprise that a second, possibly even larger introduction would come on March 14. Although not saying what it would involve, it would be a ‘secret answer’ to competitors and a ‘vision of what HP is capable of in the future.'”
MacDailyNews Take: Even greater ink cartridge ripoffs? Plastic printers that fall apart even faster? Ooh, the anticipation is just killin… Wait, what were we talking about again?
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MacDailyNews Take: Why wait until February 9th or March 14th, when we can ask “where’s the ecosystem” today?
And, by “ecosystem,” we mean everything from third-party accessories for use everywhere and in everything automobiles to airplanes, to iTunes, the iTunes Store, the App Store, the “Developers, developers, developers!” – the whole ball of wax, none of which HP or anybody else has to offer. And, Apple controls all of their OSes and can merge elements of the two at will. Good luck getting Microsoft’s Windows to do the same with webOS, HP. This is your fate for selling your soul to Redmond way back when. Unbelievably, it’s even worse for the rest of the world! Imagine being Dell *shudder* where you don’t even have a poorly adopted “mobile” OS of your own and you’re totally dependent on Microsoft for one thing and Google for another. Have fun getting those two working together!
HP used to make exceptionally good products back in the day, like the HP-35 Scientific Calculator, and the HP-11 and 15C. Now, they just make a lot of junky printers.
And I still have my HP-15c calculator. Wish they also made a Battery/Solar version. Few people know what RPN is.
Even if they came out with a “better” tablet or phone, their lack of a eco system will make them fall.
No matter what they do, they don’t have “iTunes” to sync the Pad/Phone, They don’t have the itunes store, the app store with more than 400 000 apps, or movie rentals, or podcast, and so on.
@ Norm
The only reason it’s called RPN is because people outside of Poland couldn’t handle “Reverse Łukasiewicz Prefix Notation.”
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A mere ripple in the water …..
He’ll, HP can’t even get printers right anymore. Does it even matter if they actually have a deliverable webOS product in March?
Apple as target… What else are they supposed to do? Say how they are giving up the nascent tablet market in its entirety to Apple, and will focus on iPad peripherals, AirPrint-enabled printers and similar razor-margin hardware? No public company of that profile can afford to make such decision; shareholders would just dump it in one fell swoop. This way, shareholders can continue to believe that the company is trying to stay competitive.
I’m sure Mark Hurd is well aware of their chances with the WebOS tablet against the iPad.
I wrote programs for my HP-15c that I used while I was a surveyor. Saved me a lot of time and was rugged as hell.
We still have a an HP-11 that works perfectly after 20+ years. Like Apple today, HP had superb hardware and RPN, which I still prefer.
To be honest, I don’t think it’s fair to bash webOS all that much. It’s a unique mobile OS – not a rip off like Android is. Palm may have been stupid to mooch off Apple with iTunes syncing, but they came up with something original otherwise.
Of course, I agree that it will fail miserably. There’s no momentum there.
hp s-late
HP was never really the equivalent of Apple, but there was a time they did push the edge and more importantly made incredibly reliable product. At one time, I would never have thought about buying anything but HP printers. But now, I won’t allow them into our facility. Too much trouble and too costly to keep going. They lost their focus and even now, are straddling two horses. Tough to see such a proud name be so gutted.
As an Apple watcher I always wonder what the top honchos of Apple think about all these ‘threats’ . Only they have access to all their data and their long term plans. What things worry the top Apple guys and what things they are laughing their heads off at.
@ Predrag
Hi
“I’m sure Mark Hurd is well aware of their chances “
Mark Hurd is no longer CEO of HP. Forced out after sex harrassment claims by outside contractor Jodie Fisher a former actress and expense account issues. (Hurd I believe was then hired by Ellison of Oracle).
New CEO of HP is Apotheker who was forced out of SAP. They say Apotherkar is software guy and knows almost nothing of hardware
Reuters “Apotheker, 57, spent seven months as CEO of German software giant SAP before resigning abruptly amid customer complaints over software support fee increases.”
Apotheker vs Jobs (from his bed), Cook, Forstall, Jon Ive…
(doesn’t seem fair does it?)
Every HP printer I have ever purchased in the last 5 years has completely stopped working and are complete pieces of crap. Not to mention their mafia tactics on ink cartridges.
I think enough Apple haters are out there to cheer for HPalm and anything not Android. HP statements so far seem to indicate they’ve learned from Palm’s mistakes. So far they copied Apple’s publicity strategy to go outside of CES. A 2nd device hint is thrown out to hook further interest, knowing Apple will make not one but several major releases per year. The question is – what happens after the 2nd device – assuming it will be out – as Apple just keep rolling out new products and services throughout the year?
These Tablets have to be used as Suppositories
@Davewrite
I think you may have missed the subtle humor of:
“I’m sure Mark Hurd is well aware of their chances “
I still have my HP-11 and wish I had bought a HP-15C. Long time ago they were manufacturer of nice computers (HP9816, HP-9825, HP9845, HP2000 running best BASIC interpreter). One time a HP salesman came to my high school and said, HP stood for “High Price”. Too bad Fiona lead the company on a war path against Dell. HP should have kept and protected their “High Price” reputation. “Low Price” is a great way to improve the bottom line, but it will backfire. The strategy almost killed Apple and it is killing HP today.
With webOS, I believe HP has a chance to redeem themselves. Don’t try to hack iTunes like Palm did. They don’t need iTunes. Let Amazon, Barns and Noble, Walmart, and others to invest in the virtual storefronts. Support HTML5/H.284 and drop Flash. This will show HP is looking at the leader and is willing to support existing web standards. Don’t try to compete against other tablet makers on price, compete on quality to bring back HP’s reputation. HP does not need to kill iPad/iPhone to succeed (i.e., don’t call their product iPad/iPhone killer). They just need to become a worthy competitor.
iPod history all over again.
At the introduction of iTunes in 2003, Steve Jobs was on CNBC. The talking heads said, but Mr Jobs, others will just copy what you did and take it from you. He shook his head, smiled and said, “Let them try.”
And they tried. Each new iPod and iTunes killer announced they would crush Apple: Dell, Sony, Virgin, Rio, Napster, Creative, iRiver, Rhapsody, Gateway, Zune and on and on.
Then the iPhone killers, now sunk into a profitless twilight zone.
The real HP goes by the name Agilent these days.
The company that calls itself HP is an impostor.
I have a Palm Pre that I am trying to fix. I have done quite a bit of research, so I know what I am doing. I read that the firmware has successfully been flashed at around 84%, so would it be safe to disconnect the device when the WebOS Doctor reaches 96%? It has been at 96% for quite some time, and I am getting tired of waiting.
http://blogs.rediff.com/wrinklecreamreview
I’m starting college in Fall 2011 to study aeronautical/aerospace engineering. Can you guys recommend a good scientific calculator that is currently being produced?
Thanks!
The target might be Apple, but their aim is Cfuked!
“HP will stop making announcements for stuff it doesn’t have,’ Apotheker said.”
ROFL…
Ah, I too, have a 15C at home; still works great. Saw me through Linear Algebra in college, as well as Differential Equations. Also have a nice 32S on my desk right now, used daily. Even have a 15C emulator on my iPad. Nothing beats RPN.