MacDailyNews Take: Technically, “jailbreaking” refers to the latter and “unlocking” refers to the former.
NCB continues, “‘Current jailbreak technologies now in widespread use utilize unauthorized modifications to the copyrighted bootloader and operating system, resulting in the infringement of the copyrights in those programs,’ Apple told the U.S. Copyright Office.”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Not much meat in the NBC article, so it’s unclear what Apple’s asking for, if anything. Under the DMCA of 2010, both jailbreaking and unlocking are legal in the United States of America. More info: U.S. government makes iPhone jailbreaking, unlocking legal – July 26, 2010
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Lynn W.” for the heads up.]
Maybe this is the reason the latest jailbreakme3.0 is taking so long,,or is apple making it harder to hack..lolololo
Apparently the president hasn’t been set. Sony and apple need to step back! That’s MY iPhone! And that’s MY PS3!! let me ALONE!! Concentrate and better app drm, I just want to run my code thx!!
Sony´s Lawyer < wake up Apple!!!
yes i´m a ios developer
Good luck with that. The US Government has made jailbreaking and unlocking legal.
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/26094/
@Tt
That’s precedent to you.
qka,
And your reason for echoing what MDN’s Take already stated was?
@Echo, echo, echo,
And your reason for being such an asshole is?
Thanks, qka, that was really very helpful – although I do feel like I just read it somewhere recently.
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As Apple gets its money up front for iPhones, I doubt they are doing too much to stop unlocking. At most they pay lipservice to it, just to make the wireless carriers happy.
And Sony is trying to sue the people who hacked the PS3 keys. Control is futile, Apple, Sony, MSFT et al., so please learn from these jailbreakers, not fight them.
Actually, the DCMA exemption is remarkably useless, from a legal perspective. It ONLY permits an individual to jailbreak their own phone. You are still forbidden from helping another person [either for free or for money] to jailbreak their phone, or to do it for them.
Of course, Apple is entitled to impose whatever terms it wants on the products it sells. I just think it’s most unfortunate that it does this to an extent that makes its loyal supporters unhappy.
In the country where I live and in most other countries too, you are free to buy a mobile phone from whomever you like, and later buy a SIM card from whichever carrier you like. Phone then works with that carrier. End of story.
Far as I know, some countries even make it illegal to deny a buyer that opportunity.
No one is a bigger Apple supporter than I and no one wants an iPhone more than I do. But I will never buy one until I’m free to use it with whichever carrier I want. I think it is totally against Apple’s philosophy-of-life for them to arrange things otherwise.
What’s more, I can’t see what benefit they gain for themselves from the current American structure. Why not offer the phone without ties to any carrier?
I think Apple should create a secret hit squad to eliminate the little fockers. Decapitate the jerks with the razor sharp edge of a MacBook Air, ninja style; wearing black turtle necks.
I’d never buy iPhone without being able to jailbreak
steve jobs will not get to sleep because of it
Well im all for jail breaking and unlocking, but pirating 99 cent apps is not cool. In fact I hate it. People who do that are a@@h@les.
@grh
I think I know why you want what you want (unlocked phone up front).
I’ll explain why I think Apple doesn’t want to allow that with their products;
“…Apple is entitled to impose whatever terms it wants on the products it sells. I just think it’s most unfortunate that it does this to an extent that makes its loyal supporters unhappy.”
I wonder if you were to use the iPhone on any carrier, with the limitations of some carriers, if you would actually have been more happy if Apple had controlled the carrier.
I don’t know that Apple’s control of their products and carriers, “makes its loyal supporters unhappy”.
Obviously, it makes you unhappy.
“In the country where I live … you are free to buy a mobile phone from whomever you like, and later buy a SIM card from whichever carrier you like. Phone then works with that carrier.”
– Well, the phone works as well as the weakest part of each carrier will allow.
Again, if a phone is made with lots of amazing features, but requires advanced technical infrastructure in the carrier for all the phone’s features to work, wouldn’t you, as manufacturer and seller of your phone, want to make sure that the carrier can handle all of your phone’s features, so that your customers rare happy with your phone?
“… I will never buy one (Apple iPhone) until I’m free to use it with whichever carrier I want. I think it is totally against Apple’s philosophy-of-life for them to arrange things otherwise.
Actually, I think if we consider it, we will see that this is exactly Apple’s modus operandi;
Make sure the hardware and software work as intended, to make the users’ experience as great as possible.
Apple binds Apple software with Apple hardware = wonderful experience.
Apple binds Apple phone with specific carriers who can handle Apple’s phones’ features = best user experience.
Doesn’t that sound like the Apple way?
“What’s more, I can’t see what benefit they gain for themselves from the current American structure. Why not offer the phone without ties to any carrier?”
– Please see above.
@grh
Remember a long, long, long time ago, before the iPhone, when carriers were the sole (meaning-ONLY) ones determining who, what, when, and where we were going to do with our cell phones. They put out crap software along with totally incompetent web browsers, and made any semblance of ease of use NOT a feature.
Not until Apple, with its iPhone contract with ATT, did the carriers relinquish any control to anyone. I think they thought that the iPhone would be a marginal player (ie. see Balmer’s quotes, and “I can’t remember his name at Motorola”‘s quotes). Probably to do this, they had to compromise some with ATT on its length and terms of the initial contract.
What Apple has done is turn the tables completely around in the phone industry (ie. the iPod story again).
So, don’t so easily forget the past and what we had to deal with before the iPhone. Now, everybody just waits for Apple to come out with a product and then try to copy it (see iPod, iPhone, iPad, next groundbreaking idea, etc).
(PS. Go get the last phone you had before the iPhone came out and compare the two.)
In Australia, you can legally have your iPhone unlocked and use it with any carrier that supports the iPhone. All of the telcos here do not offer all of the features that the iPhone in the States offers. Such as: visual voicemail. That being said, I do like it that my iPhone is unlocked because when I travel to the US, I can buy a sim card that works with it in the States and I do not have to pay the exorbitant roaming charges. My first iPhone here was a black market jailbroken iPhone and it still is. None of my other iPhones are jailbroken. Don’t need it. Have all the apps I want or could ever need.
I understand the kerfuffle about jailbreaking but I feel that I should be able to have my iPhone legally unlocked and then use a sim card with a carrier that supports the technology. Here in Oz, it is the law. The buyer of the iPhone is the owner, therefore can have their iPone unlocked by the original carrier.
I think we may see unlocking happen in the US once more than 2 carrier (with two completely different “broadcast” systems) are allowed – er,cough – given the opportunity to carry the iPhone.
Cheers.
This is another shyster planted story. Create a fib. Then create another fib saying government rejects apple request. None really happened but SHYSTERS pull down apple stock by 20 points using unfalsifiable story as basis.
It is possible that either:
1) There is a nuance in Apple’s request that does not fit the jailbreaking/unlocking court decision
OR
2) This is Apple’s first attempt to test the decision via another approach with the courts. This one sounds strange to me as I am not lawyer. Therefore, consider it an ignorant thought.
“…it’s unclear what Apple’s asking for…”
Wow, if you close your eyes real tight you can coat anything in denial! What Apple wants is complete control of their precious iOS media and devices, and nothing less. Their attempts at physical DRM have failed and now they want government to change the law in order to incarcerate folk for doing something they don’t like. Apple today is a partner with every media cartel. They intentionally designed iOS to limit your abilities to add or remove software and they don’t want you doing it. They want profit, and as much of it as they can get by any means, freedom be damned.
Oh, I forgot! YAY! Go Apple! iOS Rules!
I will always jailbreak UNTIL I GET THE SAME THINGS FROM IOS
And Att like mifi hot spot better password protection etc
The article MDN links to is an absolute joke. It’s so full of cluelessness that it’s hard to believe any part of it is true.
Really, almost every paragraph in the original article has a significant error.
I’m sure at least 99% of consumers that buy iPhones are not interested in jailbreaking them. The people that I’ve talked to with iPhones never even heard of the term. I’m sure it’s just a few tech-heads that want to tinker with their smartphones. The iPhone basically works well out of the box and there shouldn’t be much reason for most consumers to tinker with it. If consumers want to play around with their smartphones, they should probably be using Android which promotes tinkering.
Sorry to correct you! But the number of jailbrokem unlocked iPhones hover around 10 % of all iOS users I think it is an exception to find an iPhone user who doesn’t know the term especially after they use the iPhone as I do everyday hour .. So check your facts do make your own !!!
Very good!
Time to put an end to this hacking shit! Apple should block all hacked devices from accessing the app store or getting iOS updates.
Why you hack you are not happy with Apple and should not have bought an iOs device in the first place. Go and wank over Google Linux instead!