Jobs: Having Oracle, not Apple, release timely Java updates better for Mac users

“Yesterday, Apple quietly announced that they would cease future distribution of their own custom Java packages, concerning some Java developers,” John Brownlee reports for Cult of Mac. “So does that mean that Macs will no longer have up-to-date Java? A concerned Java Developer from Portico Systems emailed Steve Jobs, asking that very question.”

Jobs’ response: Sun (now Oracle) supplies Java for all other platforms. They have their own release schedules, which are almost always different than ours, so the Java we ship is always a version behind. This may not be the best way to do it.

Brownlee reports, “In other words, Apple’s leaving Java to the company that does it best… that is, if Oracle decides to step up and produce their own version of Java for Mac, as they do for every other platform. My guess is they will quickly fill the void and it’ll be a win for everyone.”

Read more in the full article here.

[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Arline M.” for the heads up.]

25 Comments

  1. aaww crap. 🙁

    I was hoping he would just put it out of it’s miserable existance….

    wait he never said he would have oracle do it, he only said they may have been doing it wrong in the past!

  2. Whether we like it or not, Java plays an important part in technology.

    I develop in Java, mostly in my MacBook Pro, but I deploy in Linux.

    While the Mac has been so far the best development environment (and the best user platform) I’ve used (I have over 28 year working with computers), and despite of the fact that Objective-C is perhaps the most elegant programming language in the market, the fact remains that Java is the closest product to the “develop once, deploy everywhere” philosophy.

    Bottom line: Developers need Java in their Macs. Perhaps not most of the market, but developers matter.

    So, it’s not a matter of killing Java, it’s a matter of how to have it available. As long as there’s a Java version for the Mac, we (Java) developers will be fine.

  3. Whether we like it or not, Java plays an important part in technology.

    I develop in Java, mostly in my MacBook Pro, but I deploy in Linux.

    While the Mac has been so far the best development environment (and the best user platform) I’ve used (I have over 28 year working with computers), and despite of the fact that Objective-C is perhaps the most elegant programming language in the market, the fact remains that Java is the closest product to the “develop once, deploy everywhere” philosophy.

    Bottom line: Developers need Java in their Macs. Perhaps not most of the market, but developers matter.

    So, it’s not a matter of killing Java, it’s a matter of how to have it available. As long as there’s a Java version for the Mac, we (Java) developers will be fine.

  4. Steve and Larry are good friends, I am sure Java will not go away… Steve is just telling the folks at Oracle to step up their game a bit. That being said, I had a Java update this morning for Snow Leopard.

  5. Steve and Larry are good friends, I am sure Java will not go away… Steve is just telling the folks at Oracle to step up their game a bit. That being said, I had a Java update this morning for Snow Leopard.

  6. It’s not a big deal. Java updates are really quite simple, even on a (gulp) PC. I would not be surprised if Java even continues to be delivered via Apple Software Update as part of the upcoming App Store. If not, don’t worry. I have several programs on my Mac that flag me for updates or do so automatically.

    This is likely to be a good thing, as we will be more current with Java updates for security and functionality. And given that Steve Jobs is a good buddy of Larry Elison, I have a hunch that this is being handled in a very friendly manner.

    In short, relax. Happy Friday.

  7. It’s not a big deal. Java updates are really quite simple, even on a (gulp) PC. I would not be surprised if Java even continues to be delivered via Apple Software Update as part of the upcoming App Store. If not, don’t worry. I have several programs on my Mac that flag me for updates or do so automatically.

    This is likely to be a good thing, as we will be more current with Java updates for security and functionality. And given that Steve Jobs is a good buddy of Larry Elison, I have a hunch that this is being handled in a very friendly manner.

    In short, relax. Happy Friday.

  8. I’m sure Steve and Larry have had this worked out for quite awhile before this announcement was made. Does this writer really think Apple would announce it was no longer developing Java for Mac and just hope that Oracle would pick up the ball? Come on.

    This is not a “huge if.” It’s a certainty. Oracle will develop Java for Mac. Apple would never leave it to chance; that’s why it was doing its own Java development when Sun was independent.

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