“The Verizon iPhone rumor is as old as the iPhone itself. So whenever anyone trots it out, you take it with a grain of salt. It’s like The Beatles coming to iTunes. It will happen eventually, but who knows when,” MG Siegler reports for TechCrunch. “That said, today’s Wall Street Journal report about Verizon readying to launch the iPhone in early 2011 has all the makings of a good old Apple-controlled leak once again. And so it may be time to really believe.”
Siegler reports, “Now, I of course don’t know for sure that Apple fed WSJ this story — but let’s look at the recent history…”
MacDailyNews Note: Siegler then recounts a litany of Apple reports, each of whose timing worked in Apple’s favor and turned out to be true.
Siegler reports, “Each was authored or co-authored by WSJ reporter Yukari Iwatani Kane. And guess who co-authored today’s Verizon iPhone story as well? Yep.”
“This is actually the second Verizon iPhone rumor Kane has reported in recent months. But the first one, in March, was careful not to specifically say that Verizon would be getting the iPhone — just that Apple was working on a CDMA version of the device,” Siegler reports. “All indications are that this is true, and has been true for some time — we’ve heard the same thing. But that story may have just been to whet people’s appetite with the hint of Verizon. Today’s is the meat.”
Siegler reports, “And interestingly enough, the original version of today’s story said the exact same thing: just that a CDMA version of the iPhone was coming. It was later changed to specifically name Verizon as the provider it would appear on. Some people weren’t getting the message clearly enough, it seems.”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: We said as much earlier this morning here.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Jax44” for the heads up.]
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It IS real, and it will be a very big deal for the market. All iPhone users will benefit from iPhone solidifying it’s place in the lead because developers will continue to focus on it. Of course, APPL share owners will also benefit. Those who didn’t wait and are under contract with an Android phone will lose out–sorry!
Go Apple!!
It IS real, and it will be a very big deal for the market. All iPhone users will benefit from iPhone solidifying it’s place in the lead because developers will continue to focus on it. Of course, APPL share owners will also benefit. Those who didn’t wait and are under contract with an Android phone will lose out–sorry!
Go Apple!!
@MDN is full of it
The difference is that there are Windows 7 versions of a touch screen and the Mac touchscreen are still a rumor. I’m sure they’ll have something to say if Apple goes through with it. Maybe that’ll unbunch your panties.
@MDN is full of it
The difference is that there are Windows 7 versions of a touch screen and the Mac touchscreen are still a rumor. I’m sure they’ll have something to say if Apple goes through with it. Maybe that’ll unbunch your panties.
If it’s not LTE, have fun juggling voice and data . . .
If it’s not LTE, have fun juggling voice and data . . .
I really don’t believe it.
I really don’t believe it.
Maybe my history is off, but I thought that AT&T “raised their penalty charge for early contract cancellation to punitive levels” a few weeks after Verizon did. And that was some time ago. Verizon still doesn’t have an iPhone.
Maybe my history is off, but I thought that AT&T “raised their penalty charge for early contract cancellation to punitive levels” a few weeks after Verizon did. And that was some time ago. Verizon still doesn’t have an iPhone.
Not to mention that MDN NEVER complained about smudges on screens (that was the domain of forum whiners). MDN’s comment on touchscreen desktop computing was consistently related to the ‘gorilla arm’ syndrome (and they spared no shots bashing HP for their touchscreen desktop offering of last year).
I have no doubt that future Macs will all be touch-screen, running iOS, and that Mac OS X will be retired fairly soon. I am also certain that Apple’s solution for desktop multi-touch will NOT cause ‘gorilla arm’ syndrome, as it will likely be positioned more naturally and ergonomically. You know, more along the lines of iPad or iPhone (you don’t hold it upright, in front of your face, when you use either, do you…?).
Not to mention that MDN NEVER complained about smudges on screens (that was the domain of forum whiners). MDN’s comment on touchscreen desktop computing was consistently related to the ‘gorilla arm’ syndrome (and they spared no shots bashing HP for their touchscreen desktop offering of last year).
I have no doubt that future Macs will all be touch-screen, running iOS, and that Mac OS X will be retired fairly soon. I am also certain that Apple’s solution for desktop multi-touch will NOT cause ‘gorilla arm’ syndrome, as it will likely be positioned more naturally and ergonomically. You know, more along the lines of iPad or iPhone (you don’t hold it upright, in front of your face, when you use either, do you…?).
Verizon is going to have 110 million points of presence on their LTE network implementation by the end of the year. Any Verizon iPhone is going to have to be LTE-compatable out of the box, or have a clear upgrade path. Apple doesn’t do dead infrastructure.
A Verizon iPhone will make ATT step up their infrastructure efforts in the wake of the customers that will come streaming off that ship, especially in the NY and SF markets (myself included). It may even *help* their network to shed a few customers. It will also step up what game Android has, now that Apple will be in direct competition for their customers on Verizon’s network.
Verizon is going to have 110 million points of presence on their LTE network implementation by the end of the year. Any Verizon iPhone is going to have to be LTE-compatable out of the box, or have a clear upgrade path. Apple doesn’t do dead infrastructure.
A Verizon iPhone will make ATT step up their infrastructure efforts in the wake of the customers that will come streaming off that ship, especially in the NY and SF markets (myself included). It may even *help* their network to shed a few customers. It will also step up what game Android has, now that Apple will be in direct competition for their customers on Verizon’s network.
“Or is it still talk or surf choice only?
If the latter, no thanks.”
That’s precisely the attitude to have, dude.
No, it probably won’t have simultaneous voice and data. And if it does, it will only be over 4G which will have extremely limited coverage for years to come (the chip would be both 4G LTE and 3G EVDO and most of us would spend our time pretty much using the 3G network).
But you know what? Apple isn’t forcing you to buy a Verizon iPhone without simultaneous voice and data. You can gladly keep your ATT iPhone, or perhaps buy a T-Mobile iPhone, if we’re lucky enough, which should also have that prized capability.
So all will be well with the world. You’ll have choices to make, something I know we as Apple customers aren’t very familiar with.
“Or is it still talk or surf choice only?
If the latter, no thanks.”
That’s precisely the attitude to have, dude.
No, it probably won’t have simultaneous voice and data. And if it does, it will only be over 4G which will have extremely limited coverage for years to come (the chip would be both 4G LTE and 3G EVDO and most of us would spend our time pretty much using the 3G network).
But you know what? Apple isn’t forcing you to buy a Verizon iPhone without simultaneous voice and data. You can gladly keep your ATT iPhone, or perhaps buy a T-Mobile iPhone, if we’re lucky enough, which should also have that prized capability.
So all will be well with the world. You’ll have choices to make, something I know we as Apple customers aren’t very familiar with.
Apparently, surf & talk will be possible, thanks to voice over EVDO Rev. A (VoRA), which Verizon has been implementing over past months. As for the chipset, it has been reported that the Verizon iPhone is expected to have only CDMA/EVDO chip (no LTE, or HSPA+).
This embrace of an old technology isn’t new for Apple. Original iPhone had no support for 3G data, even though the technology has been there for several years already. It wasn’t until the next iPhone, a year later (3G) that they implemented it.
Apparently, surf & talk will be possible, thanks to voice over EVDO Rev. A (VoRA), which Verizon has been implementing over past months. As for the chipset, it has been reported that the Verizon iPhone is expected to have only CDMA/EVDO chip (no LTE, or HSPA+).
This embrace of an old technology isn’t new for Apple. Original iPhone had no support for 3G data, even though the technology has been there for several years already. It wasn’t until the next iPhone, a year later (3G) that they implemented it.
If Verizon iPhone is in fact true, let us hope, for the sake of all consumers out there, that Verizon completely capitulated to Apple’s terms, especially on the issues of V-cast, selling music/apps/movies/ringtones and general nickle-and-diming and hardware-crippling, where the carrier has been undisputed champion of the world for years.
If Verizon iPhone is in fact true, let us hope, for the sake of all consumers out there, that Verizon completely capitulated to Apple’s terms, especially on the issues of V-cast, selling music/apps/movies/ringtones and general nickle-and-diming and hardware-crippling, where the carrier has been undisputed champion of the world for years.
@Predrag,
I’ve seen those murmurs about voice over RevA. It’s quite strange as I wasn’t aware of the capability and I only hear it talked about in relation to the iPhone. It seems like too easy a fix to me.
I’ve resigned myself to no simultaneous voice and data, something which nearly 150 million Verizon and Sprint customers have gone without and managed to live just fine. It really doesn’t matter to me so long as Verizon offers the choice to buy an iPhone that does it, which we’ll at least have in the ATT model. It’s alright if iPhones of different networks have distinguishing characteristics that set them apart.
As for the VCAST crap, I’d be okay with some sort of VCAST portal to the App Store installed on the phone so long as it was limited to one app that I could delete or dump in a folder with the rest of the standard Apple apps that I never use.
@Predrag,
I’ve seen those murmurs about voice over RevA. It’s quite strange as I wasn’t aware of the capability and I only hear it talked about in relation to the iPhone. It seems like too easy a fix to me.
I’ve resigned myself to no simultaneous voice and data, something which nearly 150 million Verizon and Sprint customers have gone without and managed to live just fine. It really doesn’t matter to me so long as Verizon offers the choice to buy an iPhone that does it, which we’ll at least have in the ATT model. It’s alright if iPhones of different networks have distinguishing characteristics that set them apart.
As for the VCAST crap, I’d be okay with some sort of VCAST portal to the App Store installed on the phone so long as it was limited to one app that I could delete or dump in a folder with the rest of the standard Apple apps that I never use.
Sprint has been using VoRA on some of their devices, albeit NOT for talk & surf; instead, they use it for their ‘Push to Talk’ feature (inherited from Nextel), replacing the old iDEN.
I believe for Apple, it is NOT alright to have different feature sets, depending on the carrier. Apple’s strategic goal has been, from the beginning, to transform carriers into dumb pipes. While they already have this problem (visual voice mail doesn’t work on some carriers), I’m sure they’d very much like to limit the differentiating features to the bare minimum. Surf & Talk ability is an important one, which they heavily advertised at one point last year.
Sprint has been using VoRA on some of their devices, albeit NOT for talk & surf; instead, they use it for their ‘Push to Talk’ feature (inherited from Nextel), replacing the old iDEN.
I believe for Apple, it is NOT alright to have different feature sets, depending on the carrier. Apple’s strategic goal has been, from the beginning, to transform carriers into dumb pipes. While they already have this problem (visual voice mail doesn’t work on some carriers), I’m sure they’d very much like to limit the differentiating features to the bare minimum. Surf & Talk ability is an important one, which they heavily advertised at one point last year.