MacDailyNews Take: Who exactly is calling for Apple to recall the device?
Ogg continues, “While a recall could be damaging to Apple’s reputation, it would also be a costly endeavor, according to some calculations made by Bernstein Research analyst Toni Sacconaghi. In a research note on Tuesday, Sacconaghi estimated that while ‘a full product recall of the iPhone 4 (is) highly unlikely,’ it would cost Apple $1.5 billion, or 3.5 percent of its total cash on hand.”
“What would be more likely–and cheaper–is that Apple could issue a free rubber bumper case with each phone,” Ogg reports. “That would prevent a person’s hand from coming into contact with the phone’s antenna, which is built into its exterior metal strip. Although Apple charges $29 at retail for the rubber cases, Bernstein estimates that giving them away to iPhone 4 customers would cost the company $1 per unit.”
Full article here.
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CR has lost my confidence.
Forever tarnished.
Idiots.
(i.e., can’t see forest for trees)
“Apple could issue a free rubber bumper case with each phone”
Or issue me a store credit for the one I purchased for other reasons . . .
Thank me very much
(not experiencing reception issues btw – w/ or w/o bumper. )
I am so confused. Why loose confidence in cr when it is apple and AT&T;having issues with apples new phone younshould be happy you r not stuck with a garbage product if there is a recall wouldn’t it be nice if vista was recalled lol
1.5 Billion? If Apple ever did (not) have a recall it woud do so with cash on hand!
Eric-
try to drink MODERATELY.
Given the problems I’ve seen on over 30 iPhone 4s in the UK, I have to say that I wouldn’t be surprised to see an iPhone 4 recall.
To give an example … we have some friends in Surrey … husband and wife have brand new iPhone 4s, while their 2 kids have VERY CHEAP Nokia / Samsung phones – the whole family is on O2. Guess who has the best reception in their home? It’s the kids … their phones cost £60 while their parents wonderful new iPhones cost £1100. Sometimes their parents have to call each other up to 6 times to connect! … and their previous iPhones were 3Gs – they never had a problem, ever.
MDN and Apple may be in denial over this issue, but it will have to be resolved before a class action lawsuit is served on Apple.
And … I see no reason why Apple couldn’t spin this irritating problem to their advantage.
I just want to know when I can place my order for a White one please?
FYI: There isn’t going to be a recall you know.
@MDN
If you are serious about your question of who is calling for a recall, you can find them everywhere. Like this:
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/13/pr-experts-suggest-iphone-4-recall-inevitable-as-antenna-issue-snowballs/
I know that you will dismiss them all with some trashing of how worthless any Apple critic is, but nonetheless…
What problem? The iPhone 4 did not drop data on it’s first day home where my 3gs dropped every time for a year and a half.
Full article, highly recommended:
http://www.cultofmac.com/pr-experts-iphone-4-hardware-recall-is-inevitable/50565
When you think of all the crap that has been foisted upon the unsuspecting electronics buying public, Apple selling a modern, state of the art smartphone with an external antenna is not a problem whatsoever.
All external antennas can be shorted out. That’s the nature of the beast. External antennas work better than internal antennas. With AT&T you need all the help you can get.
So, the simple solution is return the iPhone if you don’t like it and get your money back, or, stop holding it that way and enjoy the iPhone you do like.
No need for a recall. Besides, Apple could use some returned iPhone 4s to help with the demand that is still outpacing production.
the real problem is a simple miscalculation by apple of measurment of signal by displaying signal bars, thus tricking the device into thinking it has no signal. Apple has looked into this and found the problem, AT&T;has already given them the correct calculation for measurment but apple has not distributed it.
sources- Apple
the real problem is a simple miscalculation by apple of measurment of signal by displaying signal bars, thus tricking the device into thinking it has no signal. Apple has looked into this and found the problem, AT&T;has already given them the correct calculation for measurment but apple has not distributed it. even with the rubber bumper case, the rubber would still be “touching” the antenna ALL THE WAY AROUND THE DEVICE!
sources- Apple
or Apple could give away free “bumpers” which cost less than $1 each and will increase traffic through Apple stores. total cost: less than $10 million.
We have had a few iPhone 4s with frog cases working flawlessly in many places but dropping calls and having poor voice reception in specific areas and neighborhoods of greater NYC. This can be predictably duplicated with the faulty reception reoccurring only in certain areas.
ATT admits in conversation with us, that it is definitely “an ATT SERVICE ISSUE”…
I wouldn’t be surprised if their new upgraded equipment is faulty and because of it’s recent implementation that coincides with the release of iPhone 4 it is leading to false iPhone antenna conclusions.
Oh boy… Apple better stop selling more and more and more iPhone 4’s, or it will soon be costing them all the cash they have in the bank to do a recall. LOL. Inept journalism at its worst.
Until late last week, every REAL iPhone 4 customer could have returned their iPhone 4 for a FULL refund because even those that lined up to get one on DAY ONE were still within the two-week window; and Apple even (temporarily) waived the restocking fee.
There have been no lines at Apple Stores with irate customers waiting to get a refund (or at least asking for Genius Bar help). If even 10% of 2-3 million REAL iPhone 4 customers were having REAL problems with “reception,” it would be quite obvious and the moronic media would be all over it. Even 1% would be at least 20,000 and it would be obvious. Heck, even “a few hundred reports” is usually enough for the media and bloggers to go melodramatic and declare “mega-disaster.”
So I can’t imagine who would be asking for a recall. Can’t be the actual iPhone 4 customers, since that would mean relinquishing their prized possession, which is obviously meeting or exceeding their expectations.
MDN, haven’t you consistently recommended a free bumper? So, why not do so on this thread?
@ken1w — Nicely said. There must be all of a few dozen blogger-whiners. Far more people saying they have no problem, or putting videos on YouTube showing other phones that have similar behaviour. MOVE YOUR FINGER HALF AN INCH! Or take the phone back. But stop whining. Obviously, the vast, vast majority of people are happy with their phones.
RECALL!
FUD FUD FUD FUD!
FUD marches on!
You’d sooner see free bumpers shipped out, which certainly solves the hardware bug. Meanwhile: ELECTRICAL TAPE!
A recal is absurd. If this really is a hardware problem there is nothig Apple can do. The phone is built in one way, it can’t just be changed.
But I think that the software update will resolve this and make all the Apple haters and Google Linux Talibans to shut up.
2 weeks to return your phone.
Very few people return the phone.
Only a few people have reception issues.
A recall?
Even Microsh*t didnt recall the xbox and nearly ALL of them have fu**ed up.
Apple sure do get people going, dont they?!
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/13/radio_engineer_consumer_reports_iphone_4_testing_flawed.html
Radio engineer says consumer reports tests on the iPhone are flawed! Imagine that? Not surprised at all actually.
A good read and more proof the whole antenna issue is bull.
$30 * 3 000 000=$90 000 000 ≈ $1500 000 000.
I haven’t meet this problem .
I love my iphone.
“We have to admit every smart iphone has limitations. No one is perfect.
though iphone is the best smart iphone now.
Anyway, Today was a buy day!
What we should do is only enjoy our iphone, you can see how amazing the iphone is!!!
http://www.ifunia.com/iphone-column/index.html“
I have a suggestion. Why doesn’t Apple hire all these geniuses who seem to know everything about what Apple’s doing wrong, and how they could fix it?
Let them run the company with humility, as opposed to the arrogance Apple’s known for. Let em open up all Apple’s SUPPORT forums for unproductive criticism. Let them offer free bumpers with every iPhone in hope that they’d shut up. Treat the customers with the “respect” they deserve by making a public statement admitting that the iPhone 4 has a built-in fault that’s likely to remain until the iPhone 5 is released. And finally, when in doubt, recall the products!
Yeah, let’s see where that gets Apple. Who needs experience as a source of knowledge when you have the collective minds of the community telling them what to do.