“Adobe’s launch of Flash 10.1 for Android is almost single-handedly responsible for slowing down the experience of the browser and the Android phone themselves, early adopters have discovered in a test,” Electronista reports.
“While Flash is installed, the browser on a Nexus One is slower to load content than both an iPhone and an HTC HD2,” Electronista reports. “Android 2.2 is significantly faster without the plugin, but the OS with Flash installed bogs down PocketNow’s phone to where it produces a low memory error after visiting only a few websites.”
Electronista reports, “The plugin is still in a beta stage and has room for optimization, but some of the slowdown can be attributed to Flash itself.”
PocketAndroid 2.2 (Froyo) Web Browser Speed Test:
Direct link to video via YouTube here.
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Unsurprisingly, lazy Adobe fails yet again. Some advice for the ingrates at Adobe: Spend less time whining and more time coding HTML5 tools, bitches.
[Update: 1:44pm EDT: Added “the ingrates at” in Take as per TheMacAdvocate’s request.]
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Fred Mertz” for the heads up.]
That’s why Steve Jobs loves Adobe Flash
“What better curse could one wish upon one’s mobile platform competitors than a bunch of performance and security problems, poor battery life, a mess of user interface inconsistencies, and a malignant boil upon their efforts to develop their own third party development platforms?”
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2010/04/30/why-steve-jobs-loves-adobe-flash/
MDN’s take: Bitches
LOL
Wow. After seeing the video, I don’t know anyone who would put up with that.
Pls add “ingrates”.
-Ed.
Google “clicktoflash”
It will solve all your flash problems!!
Roughly Drafted is spot on with this issue. If Flash is the shining beacon of hope for Android, RIM, Palm, Nokia, etc. that Adobe says it is, then they won’t have anything to worry about in six months time. They will simply crush Apple with the glorious radiance otherwise known as Flash.
But if Flash is what Steve Jobs says it is, then all of Apple’s competitors have just shot themselves in the backside.
while watching, notice how often he struggles with the hct while pressing buttons.
the slam of flash is very very evident in that vid.
good find.
The comments summed up: “It doesn’t matter if it does it well or not just that it does it”
So Android believes it will win by using the same design philosophy behind Windows Mobile and Symbian. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Just because you are loading up the same page, that does not mean that they all have the same ads. When the ads feed from different places, they also go at different rates.
If they control that experiment, they will se that the iPhone loads quicker when not delayed by the ads source or content it can’t read.
That’s something I had not considered. Flash gets used in all of those sidebar ads. On the iPhone, they are not loaded, because Flash is not present. On any device that runs Flash, they are loaded, whether the user wants to see the ad or not. So the real issue is the GENERAL slowdown in browser performance as demonstrated in this video, not SPECIFIC performance when viewing Flash-based content that the user wants to see. That problem will be present no matter how much Adobe “optimizes” their mobile Flash player; even on full computers with non-beta Flash plugin, Flash-based ads often cause performance lag. Apple as circumvented the enter problem with Flash-based ads slowing performance by not supporting Flash. Apple’s move is looking better and better…
“When you go to a web site with FLASH…… its another story.”
A terrible, horrible, no good, very bad story.
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Just a thought,
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Notice that the touch-and-hold (to take a Flash element full-screen) fails numerous times, but is not commented upon by the reviewer. He’s being kind to Adobe. And the jittery scrolling would drive me insane in four seconds flat.
Note to Adobe and Google and their fanboys: Good luck trying to convince people that it’s worth killing your battery, slowing everything down, and getting “out of memory” errors just so you can experience the wonder of Flash ads.
@Jersey_Trader:
Personally, what matters more to me is the real world results. I’m well aware that Mobile Safari on the iPhone 3GS is the fastest and most standards-compliant browser out there on a mobile device. Controlled tests don’t mean anything if it struggles to load the content that is currently available. Not that it did in that video, mind you. Those other phones looked embarrassingly “beta” sitting next to the iPhone.
Way to use Flash to load up those ads and kill the user experience with longer load times, poor rendering and iffy playback.
It seems to me as if the only use of Flash on mobile is for displaying ads, viewing choppy video, and playing hideously designed games.
“Spend less time whining and more time coding HTML5 tools, bitches.”
maybe they’re whining while they’re coding, or maybe they’re whining ’cause they’re coding, or maybe they’re whining cause they can’t do the coding, or maybe …….
Flash = trash
This may be old news, but I just went to ESPN on my iPad, and it gave me a choice to go to “espn.go.com/?ipad”, with html5 (I guess) video. Looks great.
What the heck is Hulu waiting for?
This really highlights why Flash will never work worth a crap on mobile devices.
Froyo foiled.
mdn mw: when – as in When will they learn? Fools.
It only beta.
The real thing from this POS company will crash and cripple all browsers.
Its over for this dinosaur.
What ever happened to Apple ‘aggressively’ pursuing patent infringers… the 3 phones looked surprisingly similar from a user experience…. (i.e. scroll list rubberbanding)
Froyo is on its way to Moryor…
Yeah, why Apple didnt patent pinch and zoom? …
Did you HAVE to make the vid with flash???
gotcha MD
tom
Did anyone notice what he said at 5:55, he is running the beta developer pre-release iPhone OS on the iPhone.
How fast is the 4.0 pre release (in comparison to the release 3.1.3)? Would seem to me that it would not have been heavily optimized yet.
Any developers with it loaded on a 3Gs want o shed some light?