Eckel reports, “That said, any knowledgeable technician should be willing to admit the following three advantages that Apple enjoys over Windows when deployed in enterprise environments.”
1. Lower Total Cost of Ownership
2. Greater security
3. Better performance
Full article here.
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And they still don’t get it. There is no Kool-Aid. There never was…
It’s Apple juice, or hard cider if talking about the pro products.
From the article “Just ask the legions of IT professionals who’ve invested time reinstalling disk images, troubleshooting corrupt installs, or otherwise repairing virus-damaged Windows systems; Windows’ security issues definitely exact a greater toll on enterprise administrators.”
That’s the exact reasons why IT pros LIKE windows : it gives them job security! That’s why IT pros will fight tooth and nail to keep Windows in Enterprise.
I know of a senior Windows tech pro: he’s got two million dollar apartments, lives in a third provided by his company and is now buying another.
The Kool-Aid reference is gettin’ old. A little history: (cue old film reel sound):
Drinking the Kool-Aid refers to the Jonestown Massacre; the phrase suggests that one has mindlessly adopted the dogma of a group or leader without fully understanding the ramifications or implications.[citation needed] The poison at Jonestown, however, was prepared not with Kool-Aid but a similar product, Flavor Aid–(not to be confused with the mega-concert put together by Chuck D. to get his former band-mate back up on his feet)
A better culinary reference for a tried-and-true Mac loyalist is pudding—Cause that’s where the proof is Baby!!!!
@ spitspot,
I am a self employed consultant. I am my own IT department. I also get called to help troubleshoot PCs for colleagues and clients. I do know how long it takes for maintenance when you’re on your own, exposed to the internet 24/7. I collect, collate and transmit encrypted data any time of the day or night. Quite frequently, the PC gets in the way and prevents me from doing my job.
The answer, for me, has been to download the majority of the work to a Mac and keep the PC out of the loop, as much as possible. Yes, I have one of those limited appeal PC programs that has absolutely no Mac equivalent and never will.
try cloning a windows system onto different hardware…… and start the stopwatch…
And why is virtualisation so important?… because if you run too many services on the same server it is cranky as hell! solution more hardware to split out services… so 1 machine 1 service ( makes life easy ) but at what cost…. hello VM… Welcome to Windows….
btaylor is absolutely right. Got laid off today for exactly those reasons. Short-sighted management, uninformed admins. Sigh.
Give people a chance to change from a situation about which they are complaining, and many of them will stick with the POS that they know rather than take a chance on moving to something new for a range of reasons, the primary ones being an inability or unwillingness to learn and adapt. Some people are just too darn lazy. That’s why there are so many Windows PCs in this world.
Buy AAPL.
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@ Big Al,
I have been working in the PC/Mac industry for over 20 years. I am the IT person at a manufacturing company and I too have a side consulting business. Windows sucks. I know. I get it. I agree. Microsoft continually makes things more difficult with each passing release of software. But there is the reality and the fantasy that Macs can somehow replace any and all PC systems in the enterprise. And frankly until Apple offers enterprise class systems and software it’s a fantasy. Have any of you even spent any time trying to setup the Mac OSX mail server??? Squirrel Mail??? Seriously???
I am not one of those IT people who fights tooth and nail to keep Windows. I actually don’t know ANY of my IT colleges who do! Windows doesn’t give me job security. Rather it makes me have to do twice the work for the same result. My time would be better spent working on integration instead of removing viruses. Do you guys think I like going to the boss and asking him to pay for 300 CALS for new Windows every time MS wants and upgrade?? No I don’t.
I love my Macs. All of them. But replacing Windows in the Enterprise is a long long long way off. (but will be welcomed when it does) Until then I will be enjoying the games in my new Mac Steam client.
@chair dodger’s “Got laid off today…”
I know they don’t take sympathy at the grocery store, but you’ve got mine all of mine.
@spitspot
have you looked at Kerio mailserver ( has exchange support too ) and yes it has a cost but this is business right…
I also believe solutions come from necessity if you have a Mac platform then you either find a solution or provide a market opportunity for someone……
@btaylor You crack me up.
Ps. this is the best comment section of a SMACKDOWN i’ve read.(and i’ve read quite a number)
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Like others that have replied, I have been in the IT business for nearly 30 years. I’ve used ’em all, starting with TRS-80s in the early 80s. That includes all flavors of pc and macintosh. I’ve been through periods where I’ve loved them and hated them all.
The macintosh/OS/X platform is my preferred. I don’t have to spend hours each week maintaining it with defragments and security software updates like I do windows, and it doesn’t take a computer science degree (even thought I have one) to operate like most *nix variants. I’ve been a total convert for almost 3 years now, and have never had to run a real-time antivirus or malware scanner, nor spend time each weekend doing system cleanup tasks to maintain optimal performance. And I’ve never had a system go corrupt to the point of forcing me to reinstall the OS. I maintain a windows 7 system for gaming only now, and even for that minor usage it gives me fits, sometimes refusing to complete it’s shutdown process.
That said, I do still miss something about the pc. I like having soundcards that provide surroundsound to my games. I like being able to choose and upgrade to the latest video cards, rather than being limited to a couple of choices that are always a generation old.
But the bottom line is that I get to spend most of my time USING my computer rather than maintaining it, while simultaneously not having to worry about security. That alone is worth the price of admission.
anyone who thinks they can just buy one xserve and snow leopard server and start up all the amazing services and have it just work are delusional.
want a mailserver (that sort of works) you need one xserve for that.
want to share files reliably through afp (which as of 10.6.3 is still buggy as all hell) you need a dedicated xserve for that.
OD? dedicated xserve.
xsan? (at least 2 dedicated xserves if not more)
it’s all an illusion, the specs look good on paper, but they DO NOT DELIVER.
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that being said, all users should get macs on their desks..
even in an AD environment.
You clearly have no idea what it takes to operate and maintain 2000+ desktops within an enterprise environment. Any IT professional (even us die hard Mac users) will tell you that OS X doesn’t have the management tools that will allow you to properly manage an enterprise class environment. OS X just doesn’t scale well and its TOC is negligible. We just virtualize the OS level using Citrix Xen and roll out perfect OS’s with perfectly configured applications..
Honestly Mac fan boys embarrass themselves every time they make a statement like this because it is clear to any experienced IT person that OS X is not designed to work in a enterprise like Windows is. They have different goals, except it we do. OS X is a consumer/ small shop product, windows is a large shop general product and Linux is great for backend but sux on the desktops.
My company recently decided to started developing iPhone apps. I am one of the people now with an i5 MacBook Pro to make that happen. I can do anything with this mac that I did with a Lenovo before. Exchange, Eclipse, Photoshop, JEE, Office, the complete thing. The only problem we have is support. If something breaks, we have no support organization equipped to help us out. It needs to be shipped to apple. So, we’ve order a few spares for now.
@spitspot,
Curious about your statement that xTuple “doesn’t do half the things we need it to do.” Could you elaborate? The Manufacturing Edition of xTuple ERP does quite a bit.
It would be a waste to put a Mac back in the shipping department just to print pick slips or on the receptionist’s desk to update a database between calls. In fact there are millions of computers in enterprise and government that serve few functions and are turned off each night and on weekends. That is appropriate for Windows PCs.
The Mac is a premium multi-function multi-capable machine designed and best suited for those who can appreciate them and are capable of producing greatness.
The Mac is becoming the new metaphor for the key to the executive washroom. Those who are perceived as important to the company will have Macs, the others cheap PCs with Windows.