MacDailyNews Take: Why is that considered something that’s blowing up in Apple’s face? Why not Adobe’s face? Lynch seems more than a bit biased to us (read his full screed, link below).
The fact is that iPhone OS is Apple’s platform, Adobe. You know, like the Mac that you wrote off for dead? Whoops!
You chose your platform, Adobe. Now go decline into irrelevance along with it.
Lynch continues, “Officially, Adobe’s not talking about such actions, but there’s no question that Adobe is ticked off big time at Apple.”
MacDailyNews Take: Tough shit.
Lynch continues, “Unless things change drastically between Apple and Adobe in the next few weeks, from what I’m hearing you can expect to see Adobe taking Apple to court over the issue.”
MacDailyNews Take: Why do we get the feeling that Lynch’s big source is Lee Brimelow? If Adobe’s higher ups are really thinking about this, they’re not thinking clearly.
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: We can’t wait to hear Adobe’s legal argument, right after we hear Burger King’s lawyers argue in court that McDonald’s must be forced to offer Whoppers.
As we wrote last Friday, “[Adobe] should have focused more on Apple’s Mac instead of foolishly waiting for the platform to die and then, when it didn’t drop dead as you hoped, treating Mac users as second-class citizens while pimping inferior Windows PCs. Flash is a proprietary, resource-hogging, browser-crashing abomination and we don’t want ported software on our iPhones, iPads, or Macs; software designed for the lowest common denominator is inferior to software designed to take advantage of individual platforms’ strengths.”
Note to advertisers: (including those who advertise via third-party ad networks and become, in effect, our advertisers): Your Flash-based ads are no longer reaching the most well-heeled customers online: 50+ million iPhone owners. They’re also not hitting brand new iPad users or 35+ million iPod touch users. If you care about reaching people with discretionary income, you might want to consider dumping your flash-based ads and moving to a more open format that people with money and the will to spend it can actually see.
Help kill Adobe’s Flash:
• Ask CNBC to offer HTML5 video via the customer support web form here.
• Contact Hulu and ask them to offer HTML5 video via email:
• Ask ESPN360 to offer HTML5 video instead Flash via their feedback page here.
• Join YouTube’s HTML5 beta here.
• On Vimeo, click the “Switch to HTML5 player” link below any video.
Once again, the lawyers are the winners.
On what ground?!!! If Adobe sues, they will become the laughing stock of tech companies that can’t compete. I’ll consider company as a close relative to Palm.
Adobe can kiss my .
This is going to make things awkward the next time Steve has Adobe’s CEO on stage for an Apple Keynote Event.
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I can’t even begin to fathom what their argument will be (if this is true).
Apple can counter sue that Adobe is trying to force Apple to use a program (Flash) that seriously impairs computer performance. If Apple were an automobile it would be like Adobe demanding that Apple cars use Adobe’s wooden wheels.
Why?
What legal ground does Adobe have in forcing Apple to support Flash?
I’m confused. 😯
Lazy ass Adobe not only are OSX laggards, not only iPhone OS wannabes, and not only Apple blackmailers, but also think they can win a bitching match against Apple in court.
Piss on em.
Don’t worry Adobe,
There’s always the Joojoo. Apple doesn’t have a monopoly.
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I’m sure the Courier will materialize one of these years.
I enjoy MDN to show me what’s going on in Apple land. However, your comments in regard to this article show just how little you understand the law. It is one thing to not allow Flash to run on the iPhone for what was initialy a valid concern. (and continues to be) It is quite another to take advantage of a huge market leadership, also known as a monopoly, in the mobile device space and use it to drive a competitor out of a different space that you want to enter or that you already compete in. Apple went to far with their iPhone OS 4 agreement when they banned the use of tools like Flash CS5’s cross platform compilation features.
“Go screw yourself Adobe!!”.
Oh sorry, it looks like you already have!
You need to show how Apple’s decision is stopping Flash from being used on mobile phones or tablets. Apple’s decision only affects Apple products (unlike MS, that was dictating to other companies what they had to have on their own products).
Remember — The Official Company Line From Adobe is:
“SCREW YOU APPLE!”
They finally screamed it out from a blog but their actions have been saying it for years. You’re pretty damn gullible if you think Brimelow typed that out without approval from above. He’d have been fired by now.
1) Adobe trapped us into a $800 upgrade path. You can no longer upgrade a single title—it’s all or nothing.
2) Adobe thinks Windows 1st, Mac 2nd and they’d just as soon the platform died because they know we’d all be using Windows anyway.
3) The last ‘great improvements’ to Photoshop were layers & history. When was the last time you were truly excited about an Adobe upgrade? Um, ya— I can’t remember either.
If you own a Mac, I would think long and hard about supporting this company with your hard earned dollars. Adobe’s bloated crashtastic overpriced suite of locked down bullshit has seen the last of my money.
Great, sue away Adobe and while you’re at it, watch Apple buy you up just to quite the “static.”
The Voice of Reality,
I am no lawyer, but a huge market leadership is not a monopoly. Apparently, you don’t know much about the law either.
How can Adobe cry about no Flash on iPad, iPhone or iPod touch when, right now, there are no flash players available for these platforms.
The Voice of Reality,
It appears it’s you who is confused about the law. Apple has no monopoly. Anywhere. With anything.
Apple is also not trying to oust Flash in favour of their own product. They have no such product. Whatsoever. They want HTML5 to take the place of Flash. HTML5 is not Apples. At all.
Poor Adobe…….. Let’s see, do they offer the functions on the Mac versions that they offer on the Windows versions? Nope. Sorry, but outside of patents, you cannot dictate what other companies do or don’t do.
Go Adobe Go! I want to see Apple lose some more money on lawyer fees so they can charge more for Macs and take more from customers and increase profit to 60% lol
All the Mac heads love this idea… To give more to Apple.
I also heard that Bill Gates will sue Apple because Windows can’t be run in the iPad…
Adobe… Please, don’t be stupid
The Voice of (un)Reality writes, “It is quite another to take advantage of a huge market leadership, also known as a monopoly, in the mobile device space…”
Apple doesn’t have a monopoly, even in the smartphone space. Adobe is free to do their deals with Google, Symbian, Microsoft, their partners, et.al. And, apropos, monopolies are not inherently illegal, though acts committed in order to create or maintain a monopoly *may* be illegal. Apple has done neither. Adobe has no case.
If Jobs tried to call Adobe and work things out, he’d just be transferred to somebody in India anyway.
Jobs:
“Yes, I’d like to speak to Shantanu Narayen please.”
India Tech support:
“Thank you for calling Mr Jobs. Please, one more time, repeat your Adobe customer number and email address for me. Okay Mr Jobs, one more time please thank you , repeat your email address for me one more time please thank you. Okay yes, thank you, I think I’ve got it, it is—
S as in steve
J as in jump
O as in …
Adobe has no where to turn to.
On the left there is apple with a guard telling him to go away until he has something substantially better.
On the right, there is the big Hairy Steve Balmer from Micro$oft wanting to huge Adobe… and they have Silver light installed to finally sink Flash…
@The Voice Of Reality
What monopoly? Apple might have the mindshare of the masses, but certainly not marketshare. Nokia. RIM. Ever heard of ’em? Adobe has plenty of options if they’d like to continue developing their old, dying technology.
The Voice of Reality: I’m not sure you know the law either. The iPhone is a closed proprietary system as such Apple has the exclusive right to dictate how the platform will expand and provide it’s user’s with an interactive experience. It is not a monopoly to have a closed proprietary system. Apple has plenty of competitors in the cell phone OS space (Android, Windows 7, Symbian, etc.). Each of those too are proprietary systems, some closed some open. That’s the choice of each particular creator. Apple is saying with iPhone OS 4.0 developer agreement, that you cannot use the “development” tools made by another company to develop for Apple’s proprietary platform, in attempt to control quality and user experience. Obviously, anyone who knows anything already knows that Apple’s legal counsel has poured over the licensing agreements prior to their release. It’s clear that their counsel feels secure in making such a request. It’s up to Adobe or any other developer to go ahead and challenge that agreement. If Apple didn’t feel it had a strong position it wouldn’t have probably taken such a stance.
Good luck to anyone deciding to sue!