“Apple is now shipping the iPhone 3GS with a new Bootrom that is not vulnerable to the 24kpwn exploit,” iClarified reports.
MacDailyNews Note: The 24kpwn exploit is used to jailbreak iPhones.
iClarified reports, “The iBoot-359.3.2 started to ship last week.”
“‘MuscleNerd’ from the iPhone Dev-Team has confirmed that the loss of the 24kpwn exploit would mean a normal jailbreak would be impossible for the time being,” iClarified reports.
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…. for the time being. Nuf said.
I’m sure we’ll soon be getting a bunch of posts from the small but vocal minority of people for whom jailbreaking is important, trying to spread their “Apple is too closed” / “vendor lock-in” memes.
Apple’s doing pretty darn well selling to the majority of people (like me) who just want their iPhones to work.
Rules number 1 and 2 of the internet, Gabriel….
In July I traveled to Europe. Jail broke my 1st gen iPhone and used it with local phone provider’s SIM card. Setting the service card the rep made sure my phone was unlocked, so I could use their service. The company was actually selling iPhones, and they were all UNLOCKED by default. All their phones were unlocked, as a matter of fact. The posters on the retail outlet’s walls were shouting “all our phones are unlocked”. They weren’t locking their iPhones, probably because another service provider is selling them in the same country, too. A customer can freely switch providers there. We need the same freedom in the U.S. of A. Apple is not at fault. Carriers and Congress are.
I have to agree – the carriers and government need to give us back our freedom to choose.
Apple is NOT at fault. The options for other phones on other meteors is all but endless. If you have an iPhone, *YOU* chose to purchase that phone, knowing full well that Apple is in an exclusive deal with AT&T;. There was no subterfuge, no bait and switch. No one lied to you. This is the way the company chooses to market THEIR product at this time. Either get over it or move on.
You complainers are like people who go into a restaurant, decide you like the ambience, but want to have food brought in from elsewhere, and whine when the restaurant says no.
Meteors? I swear I typed networks on this wacky phone.
The problem in America is that there are so few people who actually WANT an unlocked phone (at full price) that no carrier really bothers to provide it. There are plenty of retail outlets in the US (physical or online) where you can buy an unlocked phone and use any SIM card with it. But who in their sane mind would do this?
There are no carrier plans in the US without the subsidy portion. Regardless of what phone you’re using, you must pay the nominal $40 minimum for a voice plan (or $70 for a voice/data). Pretty much all major carriers have same or similar plans, and they ALL include a subsidy for a phone. It is really foolish to pay a full price for some unlocked phone, and then sign up with a carrier for a $70 per month plan, knowing full well that you could have received a free phone upfront with that plan. This is the same as the people who let their contract “expire” without getting a new free phone. You have paid off your free phone, you’re still paying full monthly rate, only this time, your carrier is pocketing the part of that monthly rate that subsidised your phone. That’s giving free money to the carrier.
As soon as my contract becomes eligible for a new free phone (usually, after 18 months), I get one the next day. I get my carrier to unlock it immediately, and sell the old one on eBay (I normally get around $80-100 for an 18-month old phone). This is the only way I can get back some of that subsidy money.
Unfortunately, iPhone is a different story altogether. And it is time for AT&T to begin giving unlocking instructions to the eligible iPhone owners who ask for them.
The issue today is that people who need to use the iPhone outside the US need to jailbreak and they should be able to.
People who live in the US have only a minimal need to jailbreak, more like geek stuff or $30 issue
I am one of those who jailbreaks.
I won’t cry about Apple closing the holes that make it possible, but I will be dissapointed.
As a capitalist company, they are free to produce their product however they see fit, and as a free thinker, I will use it as I see fit.
If I can continue to jailbreak, great. I’ve been looking forward to a release of icontrolpad, and I’d like to be able to have it, moving forward with new devices, and with various game emulators. So far, it’s vaporware, but I’d love to be able to use it with a 3GS (or whatever is next).
There are other legitimate reasons I jailbreak, but I won’t get into it here, because I don’t care to debate it, but I do have to ask one question to those of you who vehememently defend every decision that Apple makes regarding their closed platform (for the record, I bleed apple juice):
Would you be so willing to embrace such policies if it were your Mac that Apple kept under such control?
Jailbreak and unlocked are two different things
@MacGuy. Nope. Wrong.
1. I use the iPhone outside the United States, no problem, on the AT&T;network. All over freaking Europe and Asia.
2. I made sure the ability would be there before I bought the phone. How hard is that? If it had not been there, I wouldn’t have purchased an iPhone. It’s that simple.
People who cry about this need to really move on.
Here’s a reason to jailbreak: Boss Prefs. This is THE most cool utility on the iPhone:
Just swipe your finger across the top of the screen while in ANY application and you get a drop down window with icons which allow you to instantly change: WiFi on/off, brightness, Bluetooth on/off, write notes, SSH on/off, phone on/off…
You get the idea. I wish Apple had built this into the OS. I mean, who really wants to exit the app your in, scroll page after page to find the settings, launch settings, click on whatever it is you want to change (brightness, WiFi, whatever- to save some battery) and then go all the way back to where you were?
There are so many things out there to make the iPhone experience better (like extensions back in the day of Mac OS 7). Apple can’t think of or do everything.
Also, I happen to live in a country where the iPhone is not yet sold (if you can believe that- although it’s supposed to be coming “any day now” but probably at outrageous prices), so unlocking was my only option (I would buy it if I could).
I agree that Apple has the right to lock and protect the iPhone any way they want- I just wish they didn’t feel the need to still do this now that iPhones are available in most countries in the world…
Just my 2¢ worth…
What Eakster said.
This isn’t about “unlocking” the iPhone. This has absolutely nothing to do with which mobile carrier you use with the phone. That’s another issue entirely.
This is about “jailbreaking”, the process of hacking the iPhone so that you can load unapproved applications on it. And I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone would still bother to do it.
People started jailbreaking their iPhones back when there was no approved iPhone SDK and no App Store. I could understand why people would want to do it back then. (Tap Tap Revenge started out as a jailbreak app.) But with the App Store going full tilt, and more than 85,000 applications available, what reason is there to jailbreak? Is there really some radical, subversive application out there that Apple won’t approve, but that’s so awesome you just have to have it??
——RM
Periodically we get a report of a problem with an iPhone. It might be some phones shut down prematurely or some phones have some other problem or something. It’s hard to remember them because they are that infrequent.
The high stability and high user satisfaction numbers of the iPhone are in no small part due to Apple not allowing everyone to do anything they wish with the phone. They limit the law of unintended consequences while simultaneously managing sensitive dependence on initial conditions. They limit complexity and boost the likelihood that a developer can depend on a specific set of conditions when his application runs.
The darn thing does what I expect, even though it’s running a robust OS. It’s one of the most ideal blends of general purpose computer and turnkey utility I’ve ever seen.
Once jailbroken however, all bets are off. That’s the benefit of not jailbreaking.
@MacMan:
Just swipe your finger across the top of the screen while in ANY application and you get a drop down window with icons which allow you to instantly change: WiFi on/off, brightness, Bluetooth on/off, write notes, SSH on/off, phone on/off…
You get the idea. I wish Apple had built this into the OS. I mean, who really wants to exit the app your in, scroll page after page to find the settings, launch settings, click on whatever it is you want to change (brightness, WiFi, whatever- to save some battery) and then go all the way back to where you were?
A few points:
First, who the hell changes their settings so often that they need a quicker way to do it? I am sure most people “set and forget”. The only setting I change regularly is to turn the WiFi on and off. My wife doesn’t even change that.
Second, “scroll page after page to find the settings”??? It’s on page one! Punch the home button, touch “settings”, you’re there! Even if you’re an app addict with 10 pages of apps, you know “Settings” is! Page one!
I can see that this app could add some convenience, but it is way the hell below the “I’ll hack my iPhone/iPod touch to get it” bar.
——RM
jailbreak provides for some extras not found in the app store: i have video record on both my 2g + 3g phones, with app grouping in folders (no more 12 screen scrolling), UNLOCKED (bye-bye intl roaming rates) and the option to “hide” icons and launch apps by search via spotlight. jailbreak isn’t for everyone, but i like it.
@The Confused1
Good argument. If Apple kept the Mac under such control (to a degree they do, we just don’t notice it), would I still make the same argument.
Yes. The same argument applies. If I did not like what Apple did with the Mac, I’d be free to move on to a much less controlled environment, i.e. Windows or LINUX. No one is holding a gun at my head and saying you will buy a Mac or an iPhone.
“the only setting I change regularly is to turn the WiFi on and off”
“who the hell changes their settings so often that they need a quicker way to do it?”
Apparently you do.
Everyone in our household has been using official, fully unlocked iPhones (3G) we bought in Hong Kong via the Apple store. Yeah, they are not $99 USD but we use them with no problems on T-Mobile here in the States. No issues with the phones either; top quality. Although if we had to return them to get service I guess we need to mail them to our friends overseas. But I think we saved a whole bunch already not having to use AT&T;(not all the phones have a data plan by the way; some of us are happy with just Wi-Fi).
LordRobin,
First gen iPhones don’t work with Pay as you Go SIM cards unless you jailbreak them. 3G work out of the box, but 2G does not. So if you want to give your original iPhone to someone to use as a cheap pay as you go ATT phone, you have to jailbreak.
But I think we saved a whole bunch already not having to use AT&T;(not all the phones have a data plan by the way; some of us are happy with just Wi-Fi).
Macster,
Can you shut off use of the wireless data on your TMobile iPhones, and still have it carry the voice signal normally?
So, unlocking your iPhone here in the US, will accomplish what? Allow you to sort of use it on T-Mobile? Who cares?
@ theloniousMac
Yes, with AT&T;you can use voice and data roam while you are touring abroad. And you will pay through your nose for the privilege. They even warn you on the iPhone to turn off data roaming while abroad, or you’ll face exorbitant charge when you return to the US. More than you’d pay for unlocked iPhone purchased abroad.
To contrast that, minimum charge for a local SIM card was $16. That included data plan. Recharges were as simple as walking into nearest drugstore or newsstand.
My iPhone just went up in value. The selling point is you can jail break it.
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