“ClimateCounts.org aims to force companies to clearly state their environmental efforts and provide this information to customers as a tool that contributes to their purchase decision. “Business is being pushed by consumers to do its part to solve the climate crisis. The scorecard allows consumers to make good climate decisions in their everyday purchases, and it’s having an impact,” said Gary Hirshberg, ClimateCounts.org chairman. Hirshberg is also the CEO of organic yogurt maker Stonyfield Farm, which finances the campaign,” Christian Zibreg and Wolfgang Gruener report for TG Daily.
“At least in this survey, Apple doesn’t look great. The Cupertino-based company ended up with only 11 out of a maximum of 100 points for its ecological and climate efforts. Apple’s results fall far behind other tech companies: IBM is at the top with 77 points, followed by Canon (74), Toshiba (70), Sony (68), Hewlett-Packard (68), Motorola (66), Hitachi (51), Samsung (51), Siemens (51), Dell (49) and Nokia (37). ClimateCounts.org claims that Apple has no publicly stated climate impact review information available, there are insufficient efforts to reduce the climate impact, there is no climate policy stance and very little reporting on its emissions available,” Zibreg and Gruener report.
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Note: More about Apple’s environmental efforts here.
God will solve ‘Climate thingy’. We should be more focused on the “Morals Crisis”.
Maybe Algore and Slick Willy could help in that area.
Who appointed these turkeys environmental judges and juries? Enough of this pseudo-science. Please don’t give these self-appointed nannies a platform.
This is all about grabbing headlines of a phony ECO organization looking to cash in from the public.
Man caused Global Warning in a load of Crap anyway. Any scientist that has reviewed the data and does have a BIG GRANT pending on Global Warming research will tell that it’s crap too.
Notice what they are talking about here? “Publicly stated” goals. Many companies have been promising the sun the moon and the stars. What they’ve been delivering is quite different.
Rating a company on their promises is less than helpful. It encourages big press announcements, nothing more. If countries were rated for their “publicly stated” goals concerning democratization I’m guessing China would come in first and the United States and other established democracies would come in last.
I’m all for encouraging environmentalism. But I’m all for USEFUL measures, not measures that distort and conceal the truth.
Missed the word NOT
Any scientist that has reviewed the data and does NOT have a BIG GRANT pending on Global Warming research will tell that it’s crap too.
Just a load of BS! Do the math. With current technology, only nuclear power works as a way to reduce emissions deemed harmful. Nuclear power reduces dependancy on outside sources of fuel, provides jobs, saves lives.
Sorry, I take that back about god solving our problems. I shouldn’t have been posting on the Internet anyway; I was supposed to be at church. Damn me to Hell.
Besides, I realized that we decide to task God with solving our problems, then by exacerbating these problems we are fighting against God. And by advocating this blasphemy, I was going to be damned to Hell anyway.
Sorry all.
from the linked apple webpage it looks like apple has had an environmental policy since 1990…..
Are these guys working closely with greenpeace marketing?
I’m so sick of environmentalist…
Always complaining and finding problems about others but have no real solutions to them.
While I’m all for helping minimize global warming and being more “green” I think its getting a bit tiring when groups like this slam Apple when they openly admit they have no information to go by. You can’t just give a bad score because Apple doesn’t publicly boast about their efforts.
Piss off ron. Fake-o little puss.
The Day After Tommorow…its a true story, once that happens in real life the air will “smell cleaner”
Who cares.
Im just happy that my new 24″ iMac is on the FedEx truck to be delivered TODAY!!
Replacing my 5yr old Dual 1GB G4 should help reduce my electric bill (not that that’s why I bought it).
I too agree that Nuke power + reasonable conservation is the only solution to America’s energy needs. Unfortunately, here in Ca, the State Gov has fully submitted to the Enviro Natzis and outlawed any new nuke plants. So we just buy our energy from other states that produce it mostly by burning coal, the dirtiest fossil fuel.
But hey-
I’m getting my new iMac today!! Frickin cool!
They’re just after headlines. Apple is one of the few companies these days that are guaranteed column inches.
For years they were ignored, but now their a focus point.
Apparently the new media is not very bright. I blame “Journalism” degrees. A proper education in economics or Poli-Sci will produce a thinking journalist. Journalism degrees just produce monkeys who can type.
But I’m not bitter, just a Swing Geezer.
As Falkirk said, this is the exact same thing Greenpeace was latching on to: the fact that Apple doesn’t SAY anything about the fact that they are FAR ahead of EVERY OTHER COMPUTER MANUFACTURER from an environmental perspective.
Morons. All they want is free publicity. It’s much more effective to just go guide your friends towards environmental-friendliness rather than being stereotypical jerk liberals like these groups.
Global Cooling
Lot’s of “real” scientists, with “real” data point to cooling not warming.
Next time the “Global Warming” hyper idiots scream about the world will end, ask them to show you the hard data, actual recorded past historical data that shows this.
They can’t.
This warming hype is ALL based on computer models looking to the future. How accurate are those? Just ask your local weather man how well they predict the weather 5 days in advance. NOT VERY WELL.
There is no climate crisis, never has been, never will be. This is nothing more then a way for government to control more of your lives, and you should be writing your congressman to tell them so.
Otherwise one day, your going to wake up and in the name of some man made crisis with no basis in reality, your going be living in a world with no freedom to do much of anything and it will make the depression of the 30’s look trivial.
From Apple’s Environment page: “Purchase any qualifying Apple computer or monitor and receive free recycling of your old computer and monitor — regardless of manufacturer”
This says it all. Buy something, recycle your old stuff.
Besides, I currently have four computers. Instead of trashing them, I passed them on to friends and family who are still using them. They’re all working great and running the latest and greatest! Recycling for them is a long way off.
Mankind has nothing to do with climate change. Climate change has been happening as long as the earth has been around. Climate change happens regardless of what we do. The were no “polluting” cars around to warm up the earth after the last ice age. Global warming just happened. The pyramids used to be surrounded by farm land! You are better off investing in a company that makes state of the art multi-wavelength sunscreen than investing in green electronics companies. You will need the sunscreen regardless of what Al Gore thinks.
Just my $0.02
OK. How do any of Apple’s products contribute to global warming and climate change? I think this organization needs to explain that first before trying to hold any company accountable.
WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE! MOMMYYYYYYYY!!!!!!
Nuclear power, oh god not that! It doesn’t work safely.
That’s crap too!
If nuclear power was so unsafe please explain to me how the US Aircraft carriers and Subs have been running on nuclear power for over 30 years. Gee, not exactly a smooth ride in the big old ocean and they just keep running.
Oil and gas companies like their monopoly for energy, they are not about to loose Billions to Nuke power plants, so they fund all the anti-nuke groups to keep the public scared of them.
I always go back to the old George Carlin bit:
“Save the Planet? The Planet is fine. The people are fucked!”
Bastards!!!
Don’t they know it was that volcano in Chile that caused the cyclone in Burma?
I don’t think Apple is much better or worse than the other manufacturers here. But in terms of pollution and carbon in particular, wouldn’t these groups be much better targeting all the unnecessary waste? You look at the big picture and the massive carbon production comes from fires (many of them intentional), incinerators and factories, and fossil fuel powered engines. It’s suicidal to stop factories and gas/diesel engines. If they put their time & money into research and education to improve and bring down the cost of scrubbers and other filters, and battery fuel cells, it would make more sense than targeting small players like electronics manufacturers.
Just my two cents.