Why John Gruber dumped Firefox 3 for Safari 3

“After a few weeks in the arms of Firefox 3 betas, I’ve returned to Safari as my daily browser. Unsurprisingly, it’s the interface that drove me back,” John Gruber writes for Daring Fireball. “But I’m not talking about cosmetic issues — or at least not only about cosmetic issues.”

Gruber writes, “Firefox 3’s shortcomings as a Mac app are behavioral, too. The main issues that drove me back to Safari:”

• Background window appearance
• Text editing shortcuts
• Dictionary
• Services
• Tabs
• Location field
• History
• Page load progress indicator
• New tab shortcut
• Inline PDF viewing
• AppleScript support

Full article here.


  1. I was subjected to IE and FF a few days ago.
    What Windows twisted cartoonist came up with their buttons?

    I can complain about the shortcomings of Safari, but next to the others, it is the most pleasant.

  2. He dumped it because he has the good fortune of not dealing with the plethora of web sites that Safari is incompatible with. I envy this guy. I can’t stand having to have two browsers around.

    Just my $0.02

    P.S Yes, El Guapo. You have a plethora of web sites.

  3. Frankly, I think they’re both excellent browsers. I use Safari on my Mac at home and Firefox on my PC at work — I’ve experienced nothing but fast, flawless performance from both.

    I’m so glad we’re well past the bad old days of MS Explorer on the Mac. Talk about slow! It did have one neat feature though: you could make a static copy of a webpage and easily save it as a tab. This was very useful when I wanted to read something offline. Perhaps Safari & Firefox have a similar feature, I haven’t explored that yet.

  4. ray, do you know what ‘plethora’ means? I would hate to think that you would tell me I have a plethora if you do not know what plethora means… ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”grin” style=”border:0;” />

  5. Does Safari offer the use of third-party add-ons? I have toolbars and add-ons that I wouldn’t want to surf without.

    Most mac-like? Is that kinda like a ditzy blonde? It looks good but not a lot under the hood?

    Safari is faster? Yes, but that’s time frame is milliseconds to a second, maybe 2. No one is that busy or impatient.

    Most of the things in his list, FF has. Those that is doesn’t aren’t reason enough to switch. I’m a Mac user but I’m no blind Mac follower.

  6. I am using the beta version of Firefox 4.0 and it is faster than Safari in many ways. It also has a great number of new features that leave Safari in the dust. The fact that Apple has not fixed the security issue with Sarari (see Pay Pal) is distubing as well.

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