California Democrats look to tax iTunes downloads

“Apple’s iTunes has been nothing short of revolutionary. For just 99 cents, you can download almost any song onto your computer or iPod. For a few more dollars, you can rent a movie or buy an episode of your favorite TV show,” Brian Joseph reports for The Orange County Register.

“The service has become so ubiquitous that last month iTunes was named the nation’s second largest music retailer, behind only Wal-Mart,” Joseph reports. “It is a money machine – and our Legislature appears to have noticed.”

“You see, music and movies purchased on iTunes differs from those purchased in stores in one very significant way: it’s not taxed. California law explicitly restricts sales tax to ‘tangible’ goods – i.e. products that can be ‘seen, weighed, measured, felt or touched,'” Joseph reports. “A digital file, obviously, isn’t any of those things.”

“But the state faces an $8 billion deficit. The Legislature needs money. So it’s looking to iTunes,” Joseph reports.

“Last month, Assemblyman Charles Calderon, D-Whittier, introduced Assembly Bill 1956, which would apply sales taxes to media downloads. That would take a 99 cent song and bump it to $1.07 or more,” Joseph reports.

“New taxes require a 2/3rd vote of the Legislature, meaning some anti-tax Republicans would have to sign onto the proposal, but Calderon got creative,” Joseph reports. “Instead of proposing a new tax, AB 1956 simply requires the Board of Equalization to amend the definition of ‘tangible personal property’ to include ‘digital property.’ That needs only a majority vote, meaning no Republicans necessary.”

Joseph reports, “Voila! A new tax – without a 2/3rds vote.”

Full article here.

Did Apple create California’s budget crisis or did California’s legislature spend way, way, way more than it took in for years? Perhaps before taxing California’s consumers and taking a bite out of one of the premier California-based employers, the legislature should first look to reign in their massive, wasteful spending habits? You know, get your business in order first before you look to disrupt the well-performing businesses of others. Just a logical thought. We now return you to reality and the illogical thought patterns of California legislators.

Apple ought to noisily explore Arizona real estate opportunities. That would put an end to this sort of stupidity immediately.

[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Bill M.” for the heads up.]

142 Comments

  1. How about cutting services to ILLEGALS from any country!!

    Use those billions to pay the difference. Why tax us when they make bone headed decisions.

    Hey-got another, take away their (Legislature) money by 25 percent to pay for their mistakes. Between the two we will have a surplus!

    Here is a thought for the table- are you listening Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and the Legislature?

    Bet idea one or two will not even be considered- tax trash, tax music, coming-tax e-mail, tax, tax, tax until the no one can afford a loaf of bread- unless you are on the social system.

  2. “…or feel-good liberals telling banks they should loan money to unqualified people so they could buy a house…”

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Yeah, the feel-good liberals took all that debt to Wall Street and sold it off as securities, too. Sure, that was Ted Kennedy doing that, I saw him.

  3. Commenting on anonymous forums is easy.

    Running a country whilst your every breath is analyzed by knee-jerk media boneheads is not easy.

    Hey ‘@shen’ – What are you supposed to do when people scream bloody murder at things like taxes or gas prices, and then go and buy 13mpg SUVs?

    Those ‘unqualified people’ you mentioned bought there own house without being forced to by any government policy.

    You make your own economy. So go and make it.

    I’m with Lurker PC up there, take a deep breath.

  4. So what if people buy a 13mpg SUV. What does that have to do with gas prices and taxes? I guess you’re saying people who buy something that gets lower gas mileage should pay not only more tax (since they’re buying more gasoline) but should pay a higher tax rate so as to discourage people from buying a 13mpg SUV.

    Interesting.

  5. Right on ‘Just a Thought’

    I came here the hard way – legally.
    As a resident alien I keep the law, pay my taxes and I pay attention to politics.
    It’s galling enough to watch the economy I have to function in get drained by illegals, but it’s far more galling to hear politicians tell me it’s not a big deal.

  6. You are correct in that those “unqualified people” bought their own house without being forced to by any government policy. But Congress was urging banks to offer loans to people who wouldn’t have qualified for loans. When legislators with legal responsibility over your industry tell you to do something what else do you do?

  7. Mr. Banks:

    •••You make your own economy•••

    You’re not obliged to financial folly merely because the government permits it.
    You don’t have to shoot yourself in the head because someone hands you a gun.

    Quite why Congress did that I have no earthy clue.

  8. US gas prices are still less than half what the rest of the developed world pays (in EU, it averages at about $7 per gallon, at today’s exchange rate). Either way, they are where they are because of reckless spending of the current US government. At not time in the history of US had any single US government spent so much money in such short period of time. And solid chunks of that (government tax) money ended up in the pockets of companies tied to the current government leaders (Halliburton, anyone?). In other words, your tax money and high gas prices are financing the massive profits of companies that belong to the privileged circle. Not to mention that the oil companies are, with all the high crude oil prices, showing the record profits, all on the back of those minivan-driving soccer moms, paying $3+ per gallon.

    Those who bought houses and couldn’t pay for them did that when the economy was strong. Had there not been so much government spending on a war (driving the economy and the US dollar down), many of the defaults wouldn’t have happened. Nor would have US real estate market gone down so rapidly and so low.

    As for taxing iTunes, California went ahead through all those propositions during the dot-com years, financing all kinds of social programmes from the state budget (after-school meals, special programmes, etc, etc, etc). Whenever there was some kind of an election, there would be a vote on some proposition. It is now time to begin paying for those programmes, and dot-com is no more, so no more hefty taxes to pay for all that. ITunes ironically seems quite reasonable, since many other states already have it. The way it is being introduced, though is typical politics, though.

  9. Listen to yourselves! Some of you want to make me think the way you do, and others of you want to deny me the ability to think for myself, with both sides wanting to kick some teeth in just to prove their point. Mama would say go to your room and cool off!

  10. Typical liberals. They love to tax and spend and then tax some more. The best part is that they consider anyone that makes over 30K a year to be “rich” as that’s who will get their taxes increased if they get elected in November.

  11. @ disconnect

    Uh, no, I think what he’s saying is that if things are so bad with the economy and money in general, isn’t it funny how people can’t seem to give up their love of conspicuous consumption.
    Personally, in January of 2003, when I figured out the GWB was going to war in the middle east, I saw the writing on the wall and bought a 45mpg VW Jetta diesel. Of course my friends were all buying giant cars at that time. Funny how that all worked out.

  12. Couple of comments:

    1) When I used to buy 99 cent cassette singles at the record store they were taxed. If I buy a CD now it is taxed. Is there a single logical, consistent reason why the same song should be subject to sales tax if bought on CD but shouldn’t be subject to sales tax if bought as a digital file? Let’s extrapolate further — if I buy Microsoft office for $299 at the store it is taxed; should I pay if I could buy it as a download for the same $299? This is particularly apropos as more people buy music online–digital purchases are replacing physical purchases, so all the whining about greedy polititicians doesn’t quote pan out.

    2) The pols don’t have any real reason to save money because the degree of whining citizens produce about taxes doesn’t have any real relationship with the amount of actual taxes collected. California, for example, is not first in state taxes per capital, but rather is tenth. In my original home state of Florida the complaints about high state taxes are always high, no one in Florida considers their legislature as anything but a bunch of money-wasting, crooked, charge everything to the taxpayers spendthrift crooks. Florida is 37th in per capita taxes. My present home state of Pennsylvania has its own angry taxpayer groups, reducing taxes is a constant political platform, and most Pennsylvanians think that they are the most-taxed people out of New York State. Pennsylvania is right at the middle — 23rd out of 50 states, with per capita taxes only $35 a person more than Nebraska.

    3) Historically, conservatives have always favored sales taxes more than any other kind of tax. Sales taxes tax consumption rather than saving and investment, and are the taxes the most under the control of the taxpayer–spend less money, pay less sales taxes unlike income taxes which grab a percentage from you whether you personally choose to conserve or not.

    If I lived in California I would want to see the tax law changed because as a cheap motherfsker I like saving a buck as much as anyone else. On the other hand, as a taxpayer I would have trouble understanding why the sales of the largest music retailer are taxed, the sales of the third largest music retailer are taxed, but the sales of the second largest retailer are tax free.

  13. When I purchased my CD’s from Tower Records (may they rest in peace), I paid sales tax. Now that sales tax revenue for CD’s is declining due to digital downloads, it makes sense to me to move the taxes to them. I’m happy to pay a few more bucks a year to help keep our public schools staffed and community parks maintained.

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