Mac OS X 10.5.2 shaping up to be one of Apple’s most massive OS updates ever

“Mac OS X 10.5.2 Update, the next in a year-long series of planned updates to Apple’s new Leopard operating system, promises to be one of the most hefty maintenance releases put out by the company for its operating system software in recent years,” Slash Lane reports for AppleInsider.

“According to people familiar with the matter, Tuesday evening gave way to the first test builds of the software update for developers, including a 354MB bare-bones delta build and a 362MB combo updater — both of which were labeled Mac OS X 10.5.2 build 9C7,” Lane reports.

“Mac OS X 10.5.2 build 9C7 stands as just the first external distribution of the impending Leopard update, which is not expected for released to end users until early next year,” Lane reports.

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79 Comments

  1. A simple opacity slider for the menu bar in the Appearances pane under System Preferences. Those who want it get whatever transparency they want…those who don’t want it slide the opacity to 0%.
    It is so dirt simple. Personally I would like to do it with all the drop shadows also.

  2. And change the unintuitive space theme on the default desktop picture. C’mon, Apple, you can find something more interesting than that. I immediately went back to the default blue theme…much better visability. The dock plane transparency needs to be adjustable, too. I would set it to 10%.

  3. Can’t come a moment too soon! Here’s hoping an option to NOT use stacks in favor of hierarchical menus is included. Also, I’d like to see them make good on their wireless networking promise as well as deal with Time Machine’s data-loss issues. Then maybe I’ll install the copy I bought. As it is now, I’d have to install a bunch of third party hacks just to have some basic usability features restored.

  4. Micro Me,

    I agree! Give the user options, best way to make the most users happy because we all have different tastes, wants and needs.

    “I think Leopard is great, but here’s my fix request list:

    – Let the user turn off Stacks, and/or return the hierarchical menus feature.

    – Let the user turn off the transparent menu bar.

    – Increase the icon and text size in the sidebar.”

  5. A tried and true rule of software purchasing and upgrading is . . . “Never buy anything with a zero on the end of it.” —Randian

    That is to say, never buy the first release unless you’re prepared to deal with the inevitable glitches. Never install a first release on any computer you rely on for your daily bread unless testing new software is part of your job. Common sense goes a long way in the computer game.

  6. Hey if they’d got it right in the first place, blah de blah…

    Steve has all you sheep fooled, blah blah blah…

    SJ is the new Joseph Smith, and you suckers fall for it…

    etc etc.

    There you go ‘Realist’. Beat you to it. Now go and troll some Dull ‘fan’ site.

  7. (@Randian

    Dude, maybe you should lay off the Military Dictatorship pills just a little bit… I mean, who made you ruler of the world of consumer computing? I got tiger at 10.4.0 and used the OS with great rejoicing. I got Leopard at 10.5.0 and the biggest problem was that my desktop icons wouldn’t fully realign after jiggering with them (until I logged back in). Otherwise the OS experience has been gleeful (on a PowerBook G4, no less).

    I may not have been, ‘around since the dawn of Mac computing’ as you have said of yourself in the past, and I often respect your opinion, but seriously, sending out lightning bolts from your Olympus? Calling people serious novitiates?

    For the record, It’s not wrong to buy and install an OS on an approved computer. It’s also not wrong to expect it to work pretty well.)

  8. A few thoughts…
    I just want to know why people put requests to Apple in responses on this site. While it is possible that someone at Apple is reading this site, I would think that the likelihood of that person being someone who has a say in anything the company does is extremely low. Also, as someone who has been doing Macintosh support since 1989, I do recognize the fact that getting something with a .0 on the end might not be a great idea in a production environment. However, as a support person, I tend to get 1.0 versions in order to have the chance to get to know the new OS before my clients call me. Finally, I have not had any problems with either of my installs on my iMac 2.8 or my powerbook G4.

  9. I have had Leopard from the very beginning, and while I have had my glitches (SHARING WITH WINDOWS GRRR!), it’s a remarkably stable system for a .0 release.

    Most home users will have no issues whatsoever, and 10.5.2 will only make things better.

    Apple did a lot under the hood of OS X w/ Leopard; it’s only natural that given those changes there would be some bugs.

  10. Oh good. I hope it fixes a couple of minor issues with my MacBook since installing Leopard:

    1) MacBook wakes itself spontaneously from sleep, over and over again (I wouldn’t really care except when it does it in the middle of the night and that darn optical drive powerup noise wakes me up)

    2) MacBook unceremoniously dies, all unsaved work nuked, when remaining battery power reaches about 30% (never receive any warnings)

    Neither of these problems existed prior to installing Leopard.

  11. 10.5.1 on a low end iMac 20″ 2.0 Ghz is
    ALREADY freakin’ SNAPPY!!!

    So enough with the freakin’ snappy!

    Hail Apple for moving smooth and steady
    with timely consistent updates.

    Thx Apple

    Reamining this Planets best OS and hardware as always!

  12. @Macromancer, Randian and Jeremy, I indicated I was grumpy, not whiny. Sometimes if you grump a little on this site, you quickly get labeled if you know what I mean. SInce I love new OS operating systems, I go in it with my eyes open knowing the .0 version will have problems. I did that only with my laptop. Once the .1 version was available, that is when I did the others. Weird problems like blank (but active) system preference windows on the G5 were present which surprised me. I disagree that the 2.5 dual G5 tower is considered old. G3 yes. G4…getting long in the tooth but not really. G5…c’mon! Apple is known for its longevity and backward compatibility.
    I have high hopes for this next update. As for stacks, I an honestly surprised that people hate it. I do not understand why.

  13. My issues with wireless were fixed by 10.5.1.
    I have nothing to complain, whine or be grumpy about.
    I only have a few things to say:
    The install disk is a dvd, not cd-so whoever is waiting for the install on a single cd is out of luck.
    Those bitchin’ about transparency, stacks, etc.-get over it, do not install Leopard stick with Tiger. Nobody wants to hear your self involved ranting/whining, especially since WE here have nothing to do with your problems or write your own damn hacks to fix whatever it is you dont like.
    Everyone have a wonderful Christmas, hanukah(sp?), festivus or winter solstice festival!!!!!!!!!!!

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