U.S. stocks retreat after Macy’s cuts sales forecast

“The U.S. stock market resumed its weeklong descent, led by department stores and computer makers, after Macy’s Inc. cut its sales forecast and the government said consumer spending slowed last month,” Michael Patterson reports for Bloomberg.

“Macy’s, the owner of its namesake chain and Bloomingdale’s, tumbled the most in five years after saying same-store sales may drop in the fourth quarter and revenue will grow less than expected. Dell Inc., International Business Machines Corp. and Apple Inc. led technology shares to a fifth drop in six days,” Patterson reports.

“Macy’s forecast and a Commerce Department report showing a 0.5 percent decrease in department-store sales in October spurred concern that higher fuel bills and slumping home values will depress consumer spending in the holiday shopping season. Excluding gasoline, retail sales rose 0.1 percent, the smallest increase in four months,” Patterson reports.

“Dell, the world’s second-largest personal-computer maker, fell 60 cents to $27.61. IBM, the world’s second-biggest software maker, dropped $1.83 to $103.44. Apple, maker of Macintosh computers and iPod media players, declined $3.85 to $166.11,” Patterson reports.

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23 Comments

  1. whether it goes up or down i donʻt care… just pick a direction and go with it… btw, i lost a boatload today since my dumb brokerage software makes it hard to keep a gain…

    but i have options thatʻll make $$$ if this market tanks.

  2. You can always tell when it’ll be a bad Xmas selling season… the retailers start the Xmas bombardment in early November! At least they’re holding off on the schlocky Xmas music. That’s the WORST!

    Why can’t Xmas go BACK to being a private, religious holiday instead of the Great Orgy of the Church of the Almighty Dollar?

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  4. It ain’t just big department stores like Macy’s, either. Certain people I know who manage retail outlets have been seeing erratic, but generally flat sales figures this fall. They’re not expecting much improvement for the holiday spending season, either. I have a hunch that the Apple Store will be one to buck the trend, though — they have very visible, high demand merchandise going into the shopping season.

    Of course, I’m not an analyst, just a geek with an opinion. YMMV.

  5. Mr.Reese – I agree.

    Unfortunately that’s the only time many businesses make their nut for the year. They operate in or near the red hoping Christmas will pull them out. They haven’t yet been able to adjust to the new economy thrust on them by the internet and the resulting declining foot traffic.

  6. Who gives a flying f_ck about Macy’s?

    Apple guided it’s strongest quarter in history above and beyond what analysts expected.. If they fall short, THEN the stock could be expected to sell off, but Macy’s forecast affecting Apple is just plain ridiculous.

  7. Why can’t Xmas go BACK to being a private, religious holiday instead of the Great Orgy of the Church of the Almighty Dollar?

    Haven’t you been around? Anything private or religious has no place in today’s world. (Yes I’m being sarcastic)

    Seriously, there’s way too much commercialism involved (and CEO careers at stake) for anything like Christmas to “just go away”. And it’s only gonna get worse; we’re well on our way to having other holidays equal or even outdo Dec. 25th.

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  9. My peeps don’t shop for the holidays. Macy’s, Walmart, Target, and all their crap made in China can bite my ass. Christmas is a lame excuse for the MAN to make his money. Christmas has nothing to do with Christ, for Christo’s sake. Stop buying crap you don’t need people, STOP now.

  10. “Macy’s forecast affecting Apple is just plain ridiculous.”

    Don’t know much about economics do you? I don’t either but I know enough to know that when retailers in general start seeing a slowdown, it’s an indicator that the economy in general is slowing down. Don’t think for a second that Apple is going to be impervious to a recession. What Apple’s selling are mainly luxury items that people will chop out of their budgets if the economy tanks. If it does and Apple starts missing their numbers, even by a little, there will be a big selloff because the stock is priced for aggressive growth.

    So while you might think it’s ridiculous, it most definitely has to do with Apple and if you hold any AAPL you should definitely give a flying f_ck.

  11. “Go to the mall on a Tuesday night. Macy’s is dead. The Apple store is busy.”

    Yes, but how many people were buying and how many people were just using the free Internet, asking genius bar questions, etc.?

  12. Long term AAPL holders like me yawn when the Wall Street market manipulators and the chorus of their shills in the media take down our favorite stock. I just ignore the noise, knowing that the business case for AAPL is superb and that the stock will rise to match business results. Do not get suckered into dumping the stock at these low prices. This is how the hedge funds make their money and how Wall Street firms get their hands on your stock at bargain basement prices. If I had spare cash, I would be buying AAPL. I’m a retired old fart, so I don’t have a regular income with which to make investments. I’m already “all in” — in AAPL, that is.

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