“Greenpeace has laid into Apple’s iPhone, alleging the device isn’t eco-friendly enough – only to admit that the product not only meets the terms of Apple’s own pledges on the use of certain hazardous chemicals but doesn’t fall foul of European Reduction of Hazardous Substances (RoHS) legislation either,” Tony Smith reports for The Register.
Smith asks, “In short, while Greenpeace’s point that Apple really should have shown some materials leadership with the iPhone is a valid one to make, why get stroppy when Apple has not exceeded the limits it has set itself or those imposed upon it by Europe’s RoHS regulations? What about all the other phone makers out there?”
“We’d guess it’s because Apple is an easy target, and Greenpeace knows iPhone related commentary gains press coverage, and that’s why it’s chosen to lay into the Apple handset rather than others. Greenpeace’s write-up doesn’t once compare and contrast the iPhone’s use of hazardous substances with that of any other mobile phone from any other vendor,” Smith reports.
Full article here.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Linux Guy And Mac Prodigal Son” for the heads up.]
MacDailyNews Take: As we said yesterday, Greenpeace loves to jump aboard a good PR bandwagon. They’re riding Apple for all they’re worth.
Just because a) they are minority eccentrics and their target b) meets the minimum requirements does not mean c) there’s no room for improvement or d) there’s no need for improvement.
Comments regarding Al Gore are Off Topic – even if they do share many goals.
Comments regarding “liberals” are Off Topic – even if many “liberals” also support “clean Earth” projects. Don’t you?
While I no longer support Green Peace, I continue to support similar goals. I tire – quickly – of bitchy, hysterical, idiotic harangues from thoughtless, reactionary conservatives who believe they have a clue and that everything will be “OK” for their grandkids. Get a clue. You are not the reason the universe exists, you exist only so your grandchildren may have their own. That is nature’s, “God’s”, plan for you.
Sometimes what you say is the right. Sometimes you really get it.
Unfortunately, this is not one of those times.
@DLMeyer
Are you saying you don’t tire of “bitchy, hysterical, idiotic harangues from thoughtless, reactionary conservatives”? Well … SHAME on you!
OK, the point of the article was that Green Peace was admitting to being possibly over-zealous and the responses were slamming GP and anyone with any links to the group. Except, GP isn’t entirely wrong … just greedy in the way they went about grabbing for PR. The point of many of the responses was “I want to pollute until I swim in it, rather than take small steps now because this flawed group told me to” … bunch of childish silliness.
Are you saying you DON’T support having/leaving behind a clean Earth? Or that you think I support GP.
Dave M
I am actually getting a little tired of Green Peace now… screw them! I’ll donate my money to Al Gore’s organization instead!
@face,
the laws regulating such things in Europe is stricter than the laws in California. That’s one of the things that makes Greenpeace’s lambasting of Apple so ridiculous.
@DLMeyer
You’re a tool.
You also probably think *WE* can stop the war in Iraq/Iran/Sudan/Afghanistan/North Korea/etc, any time we want just by leaving or patronizing them. Never mind the people that want to actively kill us no matter where we are, what we think, or what we say. We don’t have a say in stopping a war that wasn’t started by us. Kill, or get killed. Save the planet? How ’bout saving our country and our asses for our grandkids. Get it? Didn’t think so.
BACK ON TOPIC (just for you), do you really think industry in India, China ChiCom’s and the Kyoto Treaty are the best things for the planet? If so, you probably thought that was the smell of flowers coming out of my ass.
“the laws regulating such things in Europe is stricter than the laws in California. “
Sometimes, but not in this instance. RoHS restricts 6 substances only. The relevant Californian law covers any carcinogen or reproductive toxin and oficially lists hundreds of them.
The Californian law only requires a warning label.
RoHS requires you all but eliminate the specific substances.
In essence they are very different laws. Complying with one does not mean you have complied with the other.
@Goober
“We don’t have a say in stopping a war that wasn’t started by us.”
wow. guess those Iraqi’s were “coming right at you”… shoot first ask questions later!
and you think Meyer is a tool.
I used to have great respect for Greenpeace, and even cooked a dinner for them once when the second Rainbow Warrior was docked in San Francisco about 15 years ago.
But the way they have gone nowhere but downhill and can’t even seem to get their own agenda and facts straight makes me feel like…well, giving up on them.
So long for now, GP. Bring back the old guard.
GoreGoober:
What a pair of asswipes. Gore criticises “liberals” in one breath adn rolls it into Disney – as if they’re the same. Walt Disney was a goose-stepping neo-nazi. The FBI used to follow him to Nazi party meetings in California in the late 30’s.
And Goober… what a stupid prick he is. He lumps China’s horrendous pollution of the planet with the Kyoto Treaty which every western nation – EXCEPT the US signed up to. It’s not a panacea, but it IS a start. What the f8ck are you doing to conserve energy, asswipe?
Me thinks thou doest protest too much
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Rush to judge, and Rush’s a fool
If you are err less, then you be cool
Gore flies to tell his tale
But through other’s lies pollution prevails
When you do as much as gore has done
then you can share some Nobel sun
Till then say nay to Rush O’Rielly
followed by fools, they lie for profit entirely
So Apple does ok, but could do better
don’t waste time here, send Apple a letter
Your hate for Greepaece reveals thine heart
While Greenpeace fails in noble causes
your vitriol shows you are just a fart
Save the planet! Boycott Rush, O”Rielly, Beck, Malkin & Colter!!!
@HueyLong
Take it easy friend. I save electricity plenty. I turn off the light in my bomb shelter when I’m not down there. And I recycle beer cans.
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For the Kyoto Treaty– it authorizes something like 900 coal-fired power plants each for India and the ChiCom’s. And the world’s paying them to do it so they can *feel* better about themsleves.
Save the planet! Support Rush, O”Rielly, Beck, Malkin & Colter!!!
I agree that going for Apple in this case is really nuts.
They’ve sold maybe a million or two iPhones.
Do you know how many mobile phones were sold in 2006?
990 million!
None of these were from Apple.
@poo.
That South Park reference was fantastically appropriate regarding Iraq. Good Work.
Greenpeace, PETA and MADD, organisations that have lost their way. Why does the media even print their crap press releases? Oh wait, the media have lost their way too. Now it all makes sense.
@makemineamac
thanks… I try.
Cool down here folks.
Yes, it looks like Greenpeace really blew it on their facts and tooks the squeaky-wheel route. For that they should be taken to task.
And some eco-folks are over-zealous. Yes, so?
Plenty of over-zealous folks on the it’s-my-right-to-pollute side too.
But my experience is that most folks, whatever “side”, are generally more moderate.
And Apple has come out with a policy to remove toxics and start being a more green company. I am grateful they are moving in the sustainable direction.
And to those who have jumped on this as an opportunity to shout and demonize pretty much anyone concerned about the environment — jeesh, take a breath man (at least while the air is breathable) and do some meditation (or medication).
Bottom line is, long term — we all need to pay attention to cleaning up our physical ecology and our social ecology. As we are stuck with each other on a planet with finite resources.
So I vote for learning to get along.
Cool down here folks.
Yes, it looks like Greenpeace really blew it on their facts and tooks the squeaky-wheel route. For that they should be taken to task.
And some eco-folks are over-zealous. Yes, so?
Plenty of over-zealous folks on the it’s-my-right-to-pollute side too.
But my experience is that most folks, whatever “side”, are generally more moderate.
And Apple has come out with a policy to remove toxics and start being a more green company. I am grateful they are moving in the sustainable direction.
And to those who have jumped on this as an opportunity to shout and demonize pretty much anyone concerned about the environment — jeesh, take a breath man (at least while the air is breathable) and do some meditation (or medication).
Bottom line is, long term — we all need to pay attention to cleaning up our physical ecology and our social ecology. As we are stuck with each other on a planet with finite resources.
So I vote for learning to get along.
Cool down here folks.
Yes, it looks like Greenpeace really blew it on their facts and tooks the squeaky-wheel route. For that they should be taken to task.
And some eco-folks are over-zealous. Yes, so?
Plenty of over-zealous folks on the it’s-my-right-to-pollute side too.
But my experience is that most folks, whatever “side”, are generally more moderate.
And Apple has come out with a policy to remove toxics and start being a more green company. I am grateful they are moving in the sustainable direction.
And to those who have jumped on this as an opportunity to shout and demonize pretty much anyone concerned about the environment — jeesh, take a breath man (at least while the air is breathable) and do some meditation (or medication).
Bottom line is, long term — we all need to pay attention to cleaning up our physical ecology and our social ecology. As we are stuck with each other on a planet with finite resources.
So I vote for learning to get along.
Cool down here folks.
Yes, it looks like Greenpeace really blew it on their facts and tooks the squeaky-wheel route. For that they should be taken to task.
And some eco-folks are over-zealous. Yes, so?
Plenty of over-zealous folks on the it’s-my-right-to-pollute side too.
But my experience is that most folks, whatever “side”, are generally more moderate.
And Apple has come out with a policy to remove toxics and start being a more green company. I am grateful they are moving in the sustainable direction.
And to those who have jumped on this as an opportunity to shout and demonize pretty much anyone concerned about the environment — jeesh, take a breath man (at least while the air is breathable) and do some meditation (or medication).
Bottom line is, long term — we all need to pay attention to cleaning up our physical ecology and our social ecology. As we are stuck with each other on a planet with finite resources.
So I vote for learning to get along.
Cool down here folks.
Yes, it looks like Greenpeace really blew it on their facts and tooks the squeaky-wheel route. For that they should be taken to task.
And some eco-folks are over-zealous. Yes, so?
Plenty of over-zealous folks on the it’s-my-right-to-pollute side too.
But my experience is that most folks, whatever “side”, are generally more moderate.
And Apple has come out with a policy to remove toxics and start being a more green company. I am grateful they are moving in the sustainable direction.
And to those who have jumped on this as an opportunity to shout and demonize pretty much anyone concerned about the environment — jeesh, take a breath man (at least while the air is breathable) and do some meditation (or medication).
Bottom line is, long term — we all need to pay attention to cleaning up our physical ecology and our social ecology. As we are stuck with each other on a planet with finite resources.
So I vote for learning to get along.
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