“Apple Inc. has placed the blame for missing its self-imposed Leopard release date on its itty-bitty iPhone device, but analysts on Wall Street suspect other culprits — such as a widely touted but so far elusive set of “top secret” features destined for the next-generation Mac OS,” Katie Marsal reports for AppleInsider.
Marsal reports, “‘While Apple cited a shift in resources to iPhone and more time for developers to beta test as reasons for the delay, our analysis indicates that if not for the ‘secret’ features, the core Leopard operating system would likely have shipped on time,’ American Technology Research analyst Shaw Wu told clients on Friday. ‘We believe the extra time Apple is allocating is for developers to test secret features that will likely be revealed at its WWDC 2007 conference starting on June 11, 2007.'”
Full article here.
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InformationWeek blows it again: reports second delay of Leopard this year due to Vista compatibility – April 13, 2007
Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, Piper Jaffray: Use Apple’s Leopard delay as buying opportunity – April 13, 2007
Analysts unconcerned over Apple’s Mac OS X Leopard delay – April 13, 2007
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Apple delays Mac OS X Leopard until October 2007, blames iPhone – April 12, 2007
Apple to postpone Mac OS X Leopard until October in order to support Windows Vista? – March 23, 2007
HA, damned if your early, damned if your late.
Apple’s always been illusive with most releases, but they are generally predictable according to what little hints they drop. So you get this scenario:
–When Apple releases AHEAD of time everybody screams (whiners for the early Intel ready surprise).
–When they’re off by a few months with anything everybody screams.
They’re usually on time but comparing late by months to late by YEARS like M$ is not fair.
Yeah, my sister’s pissed because she’s been waiting to buy a Mac Book Pro so she wouldn’t have to spend money separately on Leopard and iLife, but she’ll just have to suck it up.
On the other hand, it won’t stop our office from buying 15 Quad Towers soon now that Adobe got it’s ass in gear with CS3. Now THAT and Micro$oft’s delay on Vista (4 years) is worse.
HA, complain if your early, complain if your late.
Apple’s always been illusive with most releases, but they are generally predictable according to what little hints they drop. So you get this scenario:
–When Apple releases AHEAD of time everybody screams (whiners for the early Intel ready surprise).
–When they’re off by a few months with anything everybody screams.
They’re usually on time but comparing late by months to late by YEARS like M$ is not fair.
Yeah, my sister’s ticked because she’s been waiting to buy a Mac Book Pro so she wouldn’t have to spend money separately on Leopard and iLife, but she’ll just have to suck it up.
On the other hand, it won’t stop our office from buying 15 Quad Towers soon now that Adobe got it’s ass in gear with CS3. Now THAT and Micro$oft’s delay on Vista (4 years) is worse.
Sorry about the multiple posts. The interface told me it was rejected and couldn’t post 2x. So I thought, are they cracking down on language here (the IMUS EFFECT) so I removed “Pissed” and “Dammed” and the interface accepted it.
Then I look and see multiple posts. Should have checked, now that running 2 pages is normal I have to remember to go to page 2 to see if it stuck.
If the amount of posts on this site are any kind of indication, Mac users are growing by the boatload.
IT2
I’ve had 2x posts on here for the same reason!
To SydneyStephen, I respect your right to feel differently than I do politically, but please try to limit political discussions if the topic is about “top secret features” and clearly has no relationship to politics!
@twilight
Read my original post… My point was about the assumption that Apple was lying about the reason for the delay of Leopard. If you follow the posts you will find someone else, hiding behind an anonymous post, turned it into a personal and political attack.
The point remains true and I am happy to restate it: Apple is obliged to behave honestly and should be given the benefit of the doubt.
That people are so quick to assume that Apple have lied about the delay in Leopard speaks volumes about the kind of world we live in.
This has nothing to do with party politics in America (except that the current US Attorney General is under investigation for dishonesty himself) – and everything to do with the apparent general acceptance of institutionalised dishonesty.
It seems that deceitful behaviour is regarded as “normal” in American business today. And for some, defending their favoured political party is apparently MUCH more important than worrying that your chief law officer might be a liar…
Y’all have to excuse our less than good friend from OzLand, Stephen.
He truly despises the fact that he is NOT from America, so therefore, rather than point out the many good points his country offers, he must tear down ours with every chance he gets, using his National Enquirer investigatory methods.
You know the type-if it is printed, if it is derogatory of the U.S., if it supports his agenda (which is based on his bigotry), if it finally gives him a feeling of superiority, then it MUST be true. Facts, reasons, doubts, or sense be damned.
AS LONG AS IT IS WRITTEN IN ENOUGH PUBLICATIONS, IT IS TRUE.
Ignore him. He is pointless.
“Facts, reasons, doubts, or sense be damned. “
You already said he was Australian.
See
for a good laugh.
MDN word town: As in taken to brown town by a large marsupial.
Yeah, you gotta love Hugh.
I still think running Windows XP apps natively could be it.
Yes I heard already that lots of peeps say Windows apps natively on Mac would kill Mac software development but that argument is bogus because I said XP. No developers will stop writing Mac apps because they are all tuned to writing Vista and leopard compatible software, XP is gone for them already. But for ordinary peeps they have legacy PC apps already so they could get a Mac and carry on simply avoiding Vista. Upgrading to a Mac would be so much cheaper than ‘upgrading’ to Vista.
Sounds like a win for peeps, a win for Apple, a win for developers of Mac software and a hit for anyone associated with Vista.
That’s priceless.
(Don’t forget Apple has the XP APIs under the old patent swap deal, not the Vista APIs anyway.)
@Towertone
Bite your bum… No-one needs to read the National Enquirer to know your first law officer is under investigation for lying to congress.
And, again, you miss the point – though I suspect deliberately in your case given your previous posts.
Apple is an American Company. This is an American website. The majority of contributors to this website are, apparently, also American.
Apparently AMERICAN readers of this AMERICAN website believe that Apple, an AMERICAN company is LYING. These are, seemingly, Apple fans – not Windows trolls.
Is Apple lying? If so, is that not a sad state of affairs – or do you believe it should pass without comment?
And if Apple is NOT lying, then the fact that so many people seem to assume they are is, In my book, sad, and worthy of comment.
As I have REPEATEDLY stated, the USA has no monopoly on corruption, deceit or distrust.
@Towertone
I note there were no facts, no reason, no sense in your post.
Just your usual stock-in-trade of personal insults.
Australians do not, on the whole, aspire to be American. That doesn’t make us arrogant or self-satisfied, or bigoted. How ironic that you flame me as bigoted – when you were called to account for rascism. or do you think I have you forgotten your rascist swipe at Indians in technology?
And, here’s a hint for you. If something is written in enough publications, it probably is true. And if it is something about your government that is written in enough of your national newspapers, then it is almost certainly true.
A google on GONZALES PROSECUTOR CONGRESS finds 793,000 references. I should not imagine many are complimentary…
Towertone, you are welcome to select those, of the 793,000, which support your Republican “I support my team no matter how much they cheat” attitude. Happy hunting…
“rascist swipe at Indians in technology”
You have a distorted view of racism.
Fits right in with the rest of your politics, which allows you to define anything as how you want it to be.
That doesn’t mean it is so.
Keep trying, Stephen, if it helps you feel complete, then you need it.
now google ‘racism’.
then ‘Indians in technology’.
then ‘moron’.
@Towertone
There was nothing distorted about your rascism. In Australia it may have landed you on a charge of racial vilification.
You have a tendency to resort to personal insults at any provocation. In fact it was a post of mine calling you to account for your personal, and completely unjustified, attack on another poster which led to the first of your personal attacks on me.
If you need to attack others in order ro make yourself feel better then you are a sad old man indeed.
mw=alone
I could not have said it better myself…
How one sided your memory is.
The poster I went after made a remark I disagreed with, and I stated as much.
You then disagreed with me, which is fine. But don’t say I started it. That would be as childish as me saying you started it. All you did was butt in with your nonsense.
As far as personal insults, Stephen, when are you going to realize how insulting you are to our common sense with you rabid and pointless attacks?
I wouldn’t think of going to an Austrailian site and denigrating your political system with half truths and dreams that I weave together from stories blown up to sell copy, just to satisfy my lack of manliness. Why do you?
Have the balls to realize that there is a side to looking at life that totally different from yours, and quit with the insults. They lose you what little respect you get when you DO post something worthwhile.
anybody want a peanut?
@Towertone
In relation to your erstwhile rascist remarks about the technical capabilities of people from India, I thought you should see this:
John Ribeiro (IDG News Service) 16 April, 2007
Infosys Technologies, India’s second largest software and services outsourcer, announced Friday that it expected its revenue to grow by 28 to 30 percent to about $US4 billion in its current fiscal year ending March 31 next year.
The company also reported revenue of $US3.1 billion for the fiscal year ended March 31 this year, a 44 percent increase over revenue in the previous year. The company’s profit for the year was $US850 million, up by 53 percent from the previous year.
So Towertone, when a poster makes a remark that you don’t agree with, by all means state your case – there is no need EVER for personal insults. It is, quite frankly childish. Really, what does it mean to be childishly insulted by someone who doesn’t identify himself on the other side of the world? In my view, those who resort to personal attacks either can’t express themselves effectively or have nothing to express…
You are more than welcome to go to an Australian site and make whatever remarks you like. If they have no basis in fact then you may be shouted down. I am not on this site because it is an American site – but because it is an Apple site, which happens to be American.
I don’t believe the Washington Post or the New York Times or CNN or any of the other sources I have quoted are, in any way, blowing up stories to sell copy. Your politics are your affair. But American politics are the world’s business – and if America is going to export its brand of democracy around the world then you had better make sure it bloody works. Right now it looks pretty creaky when an administration is prepared to ride roughshod of your democratic systems and principles of fair and open governance, lie to congress, use secret email accounts to avoid detection and claim the 5th amendment to avoid having to give evidence – and all this in the office of the first law officer of the land? Wow matey – talk about putting the fox in charge of the henhouse!!!! Even if Gonzales gets off, the behaviour of his team on his watch has done INCALCULABLE damage to the image of the administration, and to America’s reputation oversease…
Towertone, you would have more credibility if you were prepared to agree that the behaviour of the whitehouse was unacceptable – as indeed many of the GOP Senators have done. In fact, it was a near unanimous vote by the senate to reel in the administration after the prosecutor scandal broke…
WASHINGTON (AP) – The Senate voted overwhelmingly Tuesday to end the Bush administration’s ability to unilaterally fill U.S. attorney vacancies as a backlash to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’ firing of eight federal prosecutors.
Also, the Senate by a 94-2 vote passed a bill that would cancel the attorney general’s power to appoint U.S. attorneys without Senate confirmation. Democrats say the Bush administration abused that authority when it fired the eight prosecutors and proposed replacing some with White House loyalists.
If you politicize the prosecutors, you politicize everybody in the whole chain of law enforcement,” said Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt.
Towerone – what do you really THINK about this issue? Or do you just blindly vote republican regardless of how many crooks they have in their team?
And, finally, you would have MUCH more credibility if you would address the key point of my post – which is the apparent general acceptance in America that everyone lies and nothing can be done about it.
SydneyStephen,
Whilst I completely agree with your opinions I don’t think it’s worth trying to reason with some of the blinkered individuals on this site.
Borat, whilst mainly a comedy film, played on the racist and disgusting behaviour of Americans and mostly showed their stupidity. I mean the guy who took borat to the rodeo was a typical racist, simplistic, inbred, ‘simple’ American.
I’m enjoying watching the USA getting stretched. Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran… it’s gonna be fun watching the US Superpower fade away in the coming years.
@Jim
Hmmm… You know, I don’t feel that way about America. Like any country, the USA has its morons and its erudite, intellectuals. Then it has its erudite non-intellectuals like our friend Towertone, who is seemingly well educated, very knowledgeable about american history, and ought to know better…
If it is possible to “personalise” a country, I see the US as a bit like a bright teenage boy (with far too much testosterone) who was always able to achieve good grades without really working – and now is faced with the reality of adult life where its not quite so easy… We love him but we wish he would grow up a bit and behave a bit more responsibly.
There is nothing new to say about Iraq – it was ill conceived and although it was an extraordinary display of american technology, the US, Australiam UK and others are mired in an intractable dispute between Shia and Sunni muslims… The appalling behaviour of US troops suggests a military which is overstretched and unable to provide effective training for young men who find themselves in impossible and terrifying situations… More to the point, they seem to have no fundamental ethical values to fall back on when faced with such awful situations – and respond by shooting up innocent civilians…
It is not a good look… And altogether unfair on America’s young men and women that they are put in such a situation.
The English have experienced the same issue with the undignified behaviour of the captured (and now released) marines by Iran – so if you are an american reading this, don’t think that this is an anti-american rant. It is not. But your troops are over there, in the public eye…
Afghanistan is a different matter – the UN is involved and there is some chance of success. If the US wasnt so bogged down in Iraq things there might be more resources available to tackle the Taliban in Afghanistan and things might be a lot further on…
But in all this, I think it is fascinating that NOT A SINGLE AMERICAN has responded that they, also, are concerned about the apparent automatic acceptance of dishonesty in American culture. I should point out that I am not singling Americans out here – I am sure that dishonesty pervades the UK, France, Italy, Sweden, India, Thailand, Russia – anywhere in the modern world really, and I know it is an issue here in Australia. But this is a US website and, having posed the challenge, it astonishes me that most people have ignored the issue. Well apart from mr Towertone who did not like the association I made between dishonesty in general and Wolfowitz and Gonzales and resorted to his usual personal attacking style – ignoring entirely the actual issues I raised…
The silence is deafening! Perhaps it is simply TOO HARD for people to get their heads around. Or perhaps they are all too comfortable in their own dishonesty… I don’t say that in an aggressive way. People get through life the best way they know how. And if everyone else is lying and cheating then most people will figure they have to do so also – look at the number of drug cheats in sport!
They say we get the politicians we deserve. I think that is probably true. And by the same token we get the business leaders we deserve. I hope that Apple is telling the truth about the delay in Leopard. But it would be nice to think that Americans automatically assumed Apple was telling the truth… I fear we have some way to go before we get there…
@SydneyStephen,
Your thoughts are much better in words than mine. I manage to scramble my thoughts into sentences that are likely to make some people fly off the rails and start personal attacks. Thanks for replying and I do understand what you are saying.
I still think 90% of Americans would fall for a Borat sketch though!
Peace.
“In relation to your erstwhile rascist remarks about the technical capabilities of people from India, I thought you should see this:
John Ribeiro (IDG News Service) 16 April, 2007
Infosys Technologies, India’s second largest software and services outsourcer, announced Friday that it expected its revenue to grow by 28 to 30 percent to about $US4 billion in its current fiscal year ending March 31 next year.
The company also reported revenue of $US3.1 billion for the fiscal year ended March 31 this year, a 44 percent increase over revenue in the previous year. The company’s profit for the year was $US850 million, up by 53 percent from the previous year.
‘
What is your point with this statement?
@Jim
yes, well i think 90% of the Borat movie was lost on a great many americans. i sometimes wish they could see themselves the way the rest of the world sees them… i am generalising of course – there are a great many americans who have no illusion at all about the failure of american foreign policy; the threat to american democratic institutions or their declining influence in a world polarising aorund China and India…
still, England learned to adjust to the loss of her empire; France to the loss of her “lingua franca” and Russia is learning now to adjust to the loss of superpower status – so I am sure America will find a way to deal with the new reality…
but of course america is still the undoubted leader in technology; business methodology; economic management (yes I know they can’t balance their budget – but look how well the Fed has kept things on track irrespective of republican profligacy… (I put that bit in especially for Towertone – he does so love it when I get all liberal in my language…)
and Apple is a beacon of light in many, many ways – achieving things which would be unthinkable in the moribund social and economic morass that bedevils the old world…
Towertone, matey, the magic word is “congress”. Its a good reminder that the president is severely hamstrung now that the american people have voted to rein him in… Better late than never i guess…
@Towertone
Are you being disingenuous or merely forgetful?
I remind you that it was your snide comment about indians and high technology that prompted my censure of you way back when… I was simply pointing out, as I did at the time, that India boasts a high degree of capacity in the IT field and your rascist comments were entirely unfounded.
@Towertone
Riddle me this…
Is Apple lying about Leopard? If so, is that not a sad state of affairs – or do you believe it should pass without comment?
And if Apple is NOT lying, then is the fact that so many people seem to assume they are is, not sad and worthy of comment?
magic word = either.
go on, pin yourself to the wall…
SS
I don’t care either way. I have more faith in people than that. If it comes out that they were lying, then I will know for reference. Until then, there are bigger problems to concern me, like the fact that I am about to buy 2 17″ iMacs for the kids that will now have to be upgraded.