Will Apple TV be even bigger than iPhone?

Apple Store“The release of the Apple TV has driven Think Equity analyst Jonathan Hoopes to reiterate his ‘Buy’ rating on Apple, citing a $120 price target on the stock,” Jonny Evans reports for Macworld UK.

“Hoopes writes: ‘We think the Apple TV/iTunes combination could become as disruptive to legacy video purchase-and-consumption behaviour as the iPod/iTunes combination has been to the traditional music business model,'” Evans reports.

Evans reports, “He predicts that the device will achieve widespread adoption and enable Apple to explore film download, TV recording and games development through the device. The device is, ‘an ideal conduit for multiple services including DVR, paid-for content (such as video-on-demand), gaming, or advertising,’ he writes, adding, ‘we identify and value these business opportunities at $5.3-$11.4 billion.'”

Full article here.

David Haskin reports for Computerworld, “Some industry experts say Apple TV, due to be released this month, will be a huge iPod-like success, doing for digital video what the iPod did for audio. Some even think Apple TV could be bigger than Apple Inc.’s much-ballyhooed iPhone, which will be released in June.”

“‘Long term, strategically, Apple TV as a revenue-generating platform is much bigger than iPhone,’ said Jeff Heynen, directing analyst for broadband and IPTV for Infonetics Research. ‘It’s a $300 device that multimillions of people will put in their homes vs. a $500 device [an iPhone] in a market that’s saturated with BlackBerries and similar things,'” Haskin reports.

Haskin reports, “In addition, there are millions of video iPods already in circulation, which will boost the chances of success for Apple TV, Heynen said. Video iPod users can load their devices with videos downloaded to Apple TV… The result will not only be significant sales of Apple TV, but also dramatically increased sales for the iTunes store to the detriment of cable and satellite providers. ‘It’s already working somewhat,’ Heynen said. ‘Disney has said that iTunes downloads of its movie Cars have reached $25 million. Given the still-low penetration of digital video recorders at this point and the fact that on-demand is starting to take shape, the potential [for Apple TV] is huge.'”

Haskin reports, “Another potential benefit to Apple is that success for Apple TV could lead to increased sales of its Mac computers. Market share of those computers has increased significantly in the last couple of years – it now has about 7.2% of overall market share – and many observers give credit to the glow created by the iPod. Apple TV could even lead to increased sales of iPods, Heynen added.”

“Over time, all the experts agreed that, when lots of video content is available and the idea of using a product like Apple TV to manage that content is widely understood, consumer behavior will change significantly,” Haskin reports.

Full article here.

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43 Comments

  1. Doubtful. iPhone is the big ticket item and meal ticket for Apple. Speaking of which, There is a discrepancy in the time shown on the iPhone on Apple’s front page. Usually the time reads 9:41, which is pretty clever because that was the exact time it was announced. But sometimes, I go to Apple’s page and the time on the iPhone reads 10:15. I am just curious why that is the case?

  2. As someone who has not as yet upgraded the entertainment hardware in my living room, i.e., plain ole TV without component inputs, I doubt I’m alone. Moving to the TV would require me to purchase other items, and I’m not ready to do that.

  3. iThink the AppleTV could be gigantic. As always, it will start slow, but the idea of technology taking advertising out of our lives is a big deal. Also, any time technology simplifies our lives, makes them easier, it is also a big deal. When the stage for both of these things is nothing short of how we consume television shows and movies, well then it goes from being a big idea to being a HUGE idea.

  4. “Video iPod users can load their devices with videos downloaded to Apple TV…”

    Huh?? Is he making this up? I thought ATV is hi def and the iPod video isn’t. So how will they use the same files? Am I missing something obvious?

  5. I’m tellin’ ya, the very minute that iTunes lets you import DVDs this game is over. I prefer buying DVDs just like I prefer buying CDs, and most of the market is with me on this. When all the media in my collection is available in once place, I shall be in heaven.

    Than all I’ll need is a gorgeous Apple 50″ LCD to hang on my wall.

    {hint}

    -c

    MW: ‘plan’ (for big things)

  6. I’d probably have bought an AppleTV (even though my only real use for it would be as a pretty front end to playing my iTunes library) if I didn’t need to buy a new TV to use it. Why oh why did they not put an S-Video or composite output on it? My Mac mini can be plugged into my TV (with a $20 dongle), so why can’t the AppleTV?

  7. “Video iPod users can load their devices with videos downloaded to Apple TV… The result will not only be significant sales of Apple TV…”

    Assuming that one would download HD media to TV/HD set from iTunesStore, those 720p+ files are an incompatible format to video on a 5G iPod.

  8. Chrissy
    I’m sure you know MTR/Visualhub or Handbrake can do that, so are you hoping it will be integrated into iTunes for importing, or able to access DVD player, like Frontrow? I am hoping for direct DVD access myself.

  9. Apple TV has the potential to be massive. When you consider the number of people who have previously bought VCRs and DVD players to go with their TVs, it clear that the potential market is substantially higher than the market for a high-end mobile phone.

    However, that doesn’t mean that it WILL be massive. The hardware itself is of little consequence. The thing that will make it or break it will be the content that users can access through it and at what cost. If customers discover that buying an Apple TV allows them to conveniently access compelling content at an affordable price, then it will take off spectacularly. But if it only allows users to access a few Disney movies and a load of ancient TV shows, then it will be a waste of time.

    None of us know what sort of content will be on offer. Once we do, we’ll know what sort of success it’s going to be.

  10. Wade – You’re not alone. About 2 years ago, my wife and I bought a 32 inch 4:3, picture-tube TV by Sharp for $300. Not many bells and whistles but has a great picture. Last August, we each bought a first-generation Macbook with a pretty good discount from our local CompUSA which was closing. Buying either the new Airport Basestation or AppleTV now would be a waste of money for us. Truthfully, no one that I personally know owns a wide-screen, high-def television. Sure we will upgrade to AppleTV – the next time we are in the market for a new television. And we will upgrade to the new Airport basestation, once we own at least one computer that supports the “n” specification.

    Don’t get me wrong, I would love to have the latest and greatest but have we have a mortgage, bills to pay, and have a practical side.

    Peace.

  11. I think it’s more than just a component video connection to your tv. I have a tube tv with component video but I don’t think I can use AppleTV because my TV isn’t digital. I believe it’s the same reason you need a digital TV to get the benefits of a progressive scan dvd player. On the Apple site, it says “Apple TV works with widescreen, enhanced-definition or high-definition TVs capable of 1080i, 720p, 576p, or 480p resolutions, including popular models from these manufacturers.” A tube tv isn’t capable of any of these.

  12. I’ve been thinking for quite some time that Apple TV may be create a massive change in how content is delivered to our TVs.

    The key, it seems to me, is the Itunes store.

    1) A bazillion gazillion people use Itunes (numbers rounded down)

    2) Itunes has loads of content available now.

    3) Itunes has an almost unlimited capacity to expand it’s content offerings.

    With Apple TV, anyone who can use Itunes will be able to view anything on Itunes (including Podcasts, etc) on their TV.

    IF this is successful (and I’m not arrogant enough to believe that I can truly understand and fortell what market forces will do) – but IF this is successful, then Itunes will beome the “pipe” that delivers all digital content to our TVs. Think for one second of the power, the leverage, that that will give to Apple. They’ll be like Amazon or Ebay. There may be better stores than Amazon or better auction sites than Ebay, but they both have critical mass. No one can compete with Ebay because sellers know that there are millions of buyers looking for their products worldwide. And buyers know that almost anything they could wish for is available on Ebay.

    Likewise, if Apple builds that kind of critical mass with Itunes/Apple TV, then Apple will be able to impose it’s will on content providers.

    And TV viewers will think of Itunes as the new way to watch digital content on the TV – or computer or Ipod.

    The possibilities are mind boggling.

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