How long must we wait for Adobe to produce Universal applications for Apple’s Intel-powered Macs?

“It claims there are more than 3000 Universal applications for the Mac, including Apple’s own Mac OS X, iLife 06 suite, iTunes, Safari web browser and Final Cut Pro, and more are being added every day,” David Frith writes for Australian IT.

Frith writes, “Alas, the popular Photoshop isn’t one of them. Nor are any of the other programs in Adobe’s Creative Suite.”

“The software company says it is ‘excited’ by Apple’s move to the Intel platform, and is committed to producing all-new Universal versions of many of its applications, including InDesign, PhotoShop, Dreamweaver and Illustrator – but it definitely won’t upgrade current versions,” Frith writes. “None of the upgraded versions appears remotely close to reaching the market. The industry whisper is a commercial release could be the second quarter of 2007. Or maybe later.”

Full article here.

More info about Universal Applications: http://www.apple.com/universal/applications/

MacDailyNews Take: The problem is that Adobe’s apps are “mature” (read “old”) and need quite a bit of rewriting. Still, we have to question the extent of Adobe’s commitment to the platform that made their company.

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Adobe CS3 sneak peek shown on Apple MacBook Pro as Universal Binary application – May 25, 2006
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Adobe CEO: Universal version of Photoshop due in spring 2007 – April 21, 2006
Adobe software engineer explains why Photoshop for Intel-based Macs is taking so long – March 24, 2006
Should Apple buy Adobe as leverage against Microsoft? – December 16, 2005

65 Comments

  1. I was once an Adobe power user, After Effects, Premeir, Photoshop, Illustrator, GoLive, Pagemaker, Image Ready and Persuasion, all legal, fully licensed and regularly popping for the annual updates.

    One by one, Adobe released lame Mac versions, riddled with bugs and caveats. One by one I let them all go except for GoLive and Photoshop (along with its butt ugly cousin Image Ready).

    Very soon I’ll be kissing off GoLive forever.

    It would be so great if some enterprising company came out with a Photoshop competitor that had the power-features of PS without all the bloat and crappy glommed together interface. I could be free of both Adobe and Microsoft!

    By the way, a 3GHz MacPro with a fast raid scratch drive and lots of RAM does not feel slow running Photoshop CS. For web work it is much faster than my previous dual G4. Since I skipped the G5 I bypassed that intermediate speed step.

  2. Man,

    All the whining here, it almost makes me hate Mac users. (But that’s nothing new, I hate everybody!) 😀

    You idiots who think Adobe is dragging their feet. They brought out CS2 TWO MONTHS before Apple annouced the Intel switch – and when we did, we said the transition would not be done until the end of 2007. And everyone knew back then that the pro Macs would be the last ones, being as pros are always slower to switch than individuals who use computers for fun.

    So Adobe thought their target was the end of 2007. So all you fools who think Adobe is dragging their feet, they just got caught off guard that we got the Intel transtion done 16 months before we thought we would! Considering the Adobe upgrade cycle is 18-24 months, the numbers add up to them being quite on time. It makes NO SENSE to spend all that time upgrading current apps to Universal when most machines aren’t Intel (so they thought it would be at this point in time back then).

    PLUS, they had to go from Codewarrior to XCode. Shoot, CodeWarrior wasw discontinued! Why? IT CAN”T BE PORTED!

    So go throw your stupid little fits, and be idiots. But in the end, what the facts are is that Adobe had to make their decision based on the facts they knew at the time, and knowing how much work it was going to take, and how it would slow down CS3 for Mac if they took resources and put them to changing CS2.

    Even Adobe has its limits! Have any of you twits done software development? Have any of you don’t any kind of team development projets? Do you remember how long it took to port NeXTSTEP to OS X?

    Get over yourselves. Photoshop IS the killer app for Mac Pros. You mark my words. A year from now we’ll all have forgotten this tempest in a tea pot. So stop pissing in the tea!

    Bozos.

    S.

  3. Ha! Thanks McGherkinstein, I heard you need AT LEAST 16GB of free space for Vista, it needs tons of swap space when you install it. All that code and space for a POS OS.

    I’m still hoping I can use DeLocalizer to get rid of the Intel code when I get my hands on Leopard!

  4. Steve Jobs says: “Man, All the whining here, it almost makes me hate Mac users. (But that’s nothing new, I hate everybody!) 😀

    You idiots who think Adobe is dragging their feet. They brought out CS2 TWO MONTHS before Apple annouced the Intel switch – and when we did, we said the transition would not be done until the end of 2007…

    So Adobe thought their target was the end of 2007. So all you fools who think Adobe is dragging their feet, they just got caught off guard that we got the Intel transtion done 16 months before we thought we would! …

    PLUS, they had to go from Codewarrior to XCode. Shoot, CodeWarrior wasw discontinued! Why? IT CAN”T BE PORTED!

    So go throw your stupid little fits, and be idiots. But in the end, what the facts are is that Adobe had to make their decision based on the facts they knew at the time, and knowing how much work it was going to take, and how it would slow down CS3 for Mac if they took resources and put them to changing CS2.

    Even Adobe has its limits! Have any of you twits done software development? Have any of you don’t any kind of team development projets? Do you remember how long it took to port NeXTSTEP to OS X?

    Get over yourselves. Photoshop IS the killer app for Mac Pros. You mark my words. A year from now we’ll all have forgotten this tempest in a tea pot. So stop pissing in the tea!

    Bozos.

    S.”

    Temper, temper your highness. Did you ever stop to think that much of this disquiet stems from the fact that Apple’s loyal customer base is spending quite abit of time and/or money on this transition? Why shouldn’t the pro-sumers (at least) be pissed, when it’s upgrade time and yet the main app they currently own works slower on the newest hardware? Couple that with the fact that UB-CS3 sure as hell won’t be given away, thereby requiring spending more bucks on the app AGAIN …

    Frankly, Apple should be thankful that a handful of irate posts are all they have to deal with from Mac users, all things considered. The Faithful have been more than patient (and even a little willfully blind) regarding this CPU switch and it’s supposed benefits. They swallowed the rational, almost overnight, and have been spending their hard-earned, non-CEO level salaries on product in numbers that should frankly be inspiring to anyone employed by Apple Computers Inc.

    So cut ’em some slack.

    After all, there wouldn’t be any bitching if you hadn’t insisted on this trip in the first place.

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  5. “Why shouldn’t the pro-sumers (at least) be pissed, when it’s upgrade time and yet the main app they currently own works slower on the newest hardware? “

    Why should Adobe be responsible for these customer’s bad platform choice. You want native CS2 on a Mac or a PC you can get it today under Windows.

    News Flash: most people buy systems for the Apps they want, not the OS it runs. Only idiots buy a system for the OS they want then bitch about how it doesn’t natively run the Apps they want to run.

    Today you have a choice:

    Windows + Fast CS2
    Mac OS X + Slow CS2

    And if you prefer Mac OS X to Windows, that’s fine, just stop bitching about how OS X doesn’t run Photoshop as well as other platforms do.

    You pay your money and you make your choice.

  6. I read an article (which was probably referenced right here in MDN in the first place) that Adobe’s PhotoShop is still full of emulation code for the old Motorola 68000 chip. The problem for PS users… Adobe’s marketing opportunities here aside… therefore, is evidently the same as Microsoft’s….

    LEGACY BLOATWARE! ! ! !

  7. “PhotoShop is still full of emulation code for the old Motorola 68000 chip”

    I don’t think this could be true, because OS X programs can’t access the 68000 emulator, you have to be in OS 9 (or classic) to do that.

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