“It claims there are more than 3000 Universal applications for the Mac, including Apple’s own Mac OS X, iLife 06 suite, iTunes, Safari web browser and Final Cut Pro, and more are being added every day,” David Frith writes for Australian IT.
Frith writes, “Alas, the popular Photoshop isn’t one of them. Nor are any of the other programs in Adobe’s Creative Suite.”
“The software company says it is ‘excited’ by Apple’s move to the Intel platform, and is committed to producing all-new Universal versions of many of its applications, including InDesign, PhotoShop, Dreamweaver and Illustrator – but it definitely won’t upgrade current versions,” Frith writes. “None of the upgraded versions appears remotely close to reaching the market. The industry whisper is a commercial release could be the second quarter of 2007. Or maybe later.”
Full article here.
More info about Universal Applications: http://www.apple.com/universal/applications/
MacDailyNews Take: The problem is that Adobe’s apps are “mature” (read “old”) and need quite a bit of rewriting. Still, we have to question the extent of Adobe’s commitment to the platform that made their company.
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It is time for Steve to make an offer Bruce can’t resist; Apple must buy Adobe in order to put that lazy company back on tracks and then give back to the people nicely programmed apps.
After that move, all Apple need to do is render incompatible Photoshop for Vista and we all move to macs
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Everyone knows that Macs are only good for graphics work. Why would anyone need Photosgop?
My take is that Adobe want to rake in as much as possible by not doing a straightforward switch to Universal..they want our money to go Universal only with a few extra bells and whistles.
I’m happy with the Universal Apps that exist.. including Aperture, which means I probably won’t ever need to upgrade Photoshop CS (sepecially as Apple are likely making more Aperture announcements at Photokina on the 25th September.
“…Universal applications for the Mac, including Apple’s own Mac OS X…”
Correction: OS X 10.4 Tiger is not universal. There is a PPC version and a separate Intel version.
OS X 10.5 Leopard is expected to be universal, but to the users that’s a minor point. If Adobe released separate Intel versions of its Creative Suite components, even if they weren’t universal, there would be much rejoicing.
MDN: “…Still, we have to question the extent of Adobe’s commitment to the platform that made their company.”
Yeah – kind of like Apple’s commitment to the processor platform that made their company – the PowerPC.
Last time I fired up my PowerMac G5, my CS2 was working just fine. Without any “translation” or whatever is else is needed to help those poor little Intel chips handle the more advanced coding that used for RISC processors.
Come on MDN, isn’t it about “performance per watt” anyway? Who cares if its a bit slower – its about power consumption, not output.
Enjoy your “Intel Inside” – cause dude, you just got a high-end Dell.
Boot Camp + Windows = native CS2 today. Stop Whining and switch.
Apple: yesterday’s technology tomorrow.
Adobe—People who live in adobe buildings are always waiting for manana.
MW –ever.. as in–if they ever do it on time.
“It means is that this time, there’s no limited-cost option for getting most of the performance available on the platform for Photoshop in a short amount of time. In other words, no shortcuts.
That leaves doing the work for real – taking the whole application over into XCode and recompiling as a Universal Binary.”
O.K. Adobe has some legitimate problems in this migration – which they brought on themselves. Shortcuts = kludge. They also became overly dependent on their compiler of choice doing certain work for them. Not a good idea if you want to migrate code, which you will want to do eventually if your business is a success. Especially when Apple has been telling developers for some time to switch to XCode as it will eventually be mandatory for technical reasons.
Adobe doesn’t “take the time to get it right.” They take the easiest route. This time the easiest route is the only route: total rewrite.
That said, Adobe told us there would be no UB until the normal upgrade cycle and that the next upgrade was due the first half of 2007. They are on schedule. In the meantime PowerMacs and Mac Pros run CS2 with roughly the same performance.
Adobe is suffering for past poor practice. We aren’t.
Grimpshop Free and Universal Binary
gimp not grimp… d’oh!
MacDailyNews Take: The problem is that Adobe’s apps are “mature” (read “old”) and need quite a bit of rewriting. Still, we have to question the extent of Adobe’s commitment to the platform that made their company.”
For me there is NO question, the minute Adobe started releasing Windows compatible software it was the beginning of the end for the Mac. The very first year that PS came out for Windows the Mac version updates started coming noticeably slower, and by the end of the first year of the Windows version release the Mac officially became an after thought at Adobe, with Mac version releases coming well after Windows releases for several consecutive years for all Adobe products. And then, inevitably, they started producting Windows only products.
I really wish we had something to transit to from Adobe bloat ware – I’m tired of Adobe’s Microcentric antics.
sMac,
I downloaded the Gimp offering a year or so ago, and it was ok. Since it was running via X11 it didn’t look very elegant.
Bitch bitch bitch. I use InDesign CS2, Illustrator 10, and Photoshop 7. Some of you asswipes are far too anxious to part with your money.
So “f”, you’re finished with Adobe? What are you gonna use, Microsoft software? The Corel Suite? QuarkXpress? Hahahahahahahahaha
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Where was the commitment from IBM?
Where was 3GHz within a year?
Where was the 980, 990, 9900? Actually, where was the 976 (970 on 65nm) ?
Where was the 370 (the portable 64-bit processor that would have been the G5 for laptops)? Or was it just a press release and a presentation?
Too busy goofing off designing cut-down G5s for Microsoft’s XBox, or helping Sony build the Cell.
Apple was a committed customer to AIM between March 1994 (Power Macintosh 6100/60 [Piltdown Man]) and August 2006; it was also a willing partner having contributed much of AltiVec, as well as significant intellectual property to both Kaleida and Taligent.
If you want a loyal customer, you act as a loyal suppler and try not to make your client feel like as if they are being sidelined because you’ve got more important things to work on like mobile phones or games consoles.
What would you do to an IT support company who always treated you as a secondary priority? Or to a builder or a tradesman who always promised milestones which were never achieved? Would you carry on being a hostage to your supplier partner? Or would you tell them to go fsck themselves and the horse they rode in on? If it’s the former, have you got any work going because you sound like a dream client?
“IF Adobe were to release Photoshop in January, that would be a major fete. Photoshop is a large and complex application. A total rewrite (bug free) in just 18 months is a monumental accomplishment.
I think people are being overly critical of Adobe.”
I don’t agree. You don’t think Adobe knew aobut the Intel switch way ahead of time? Puhleeze.
Shame on you Adobe, no excuse. You’d be out of business if it wasn’t for Mac-based designers buying your products 15 years ago.
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ADOBE… YOU ARE LAZY! F**KIN’ LAZY
Adobe has been going downhill, I think my G5 boots faster than PS CS2. It is time Apple made them an offer. They’d have control over pdf psd and swf. That is a fair amount of power.
MW ‘pool’ as in ‘I have to drop the kids off at the pool.’
I Like Photoshop, because it’s the best at what it does. But every day I look at it and think to myself, there are so many things that could be so much better. They need a strong competitor, because without one they’ve done nothing but stagnate.
It’s sad. ProTools will be Universal before Adobe Photoshop. Digital Performer already is. Even Finale is now. Sibelius isn’t. Perhaps there is where the race is going to be held…..
Waaaah… Adobe won’t immediately update their apps for me. Waaahhh… I want it all now!! Waaaah, they don’t care about me… Waaah… Even though I have no idea what it takes to update all of these programs, they should have had them done the day the intel Macbooks came out!!! Waaah… What about me! Wahhh!!! They don’t care! Waaaah… They’re lazy.. Waaahh. Me, me, me, me… Waaahh!!!
Gawd!! Shutup!!!
I watched yesterday as one of my employees lost hours of work because through out the day Illustrator crashed. It crashed over and over. He rebooted, etc.
In a remarkable design decision, Adobe doesn’t put an autosave feature.
Adobe is just like Microsoft. Bloated programs. Bugs galore. Terrible interface with a brutal learning curve. All resulting from new code slapped on old code on an outdated design.
And let’s not forget the price of the suite. And product activation. And no manuals. And expensive upgrades with anemic features which you still need to buy since the upgrade fixes bugs you need fixed and they change the file format.
Scumbag moves, your name is Adobe.
Adobe is the Microsoft of the creative app space. And that means they’re toast. Open Source and Apple and Microsoft are all going to take them down. It’ll take time, probably a decade or so, but it’s coming.
The Universal lag is just the tip of the iceberg of Adobe’s sloppiness and incompetence. At least Wall Street now sees Adobe for what they are: a poorly run company with crappy products. The
I hope Adobe changes their destiny with CS3. But I wouldn’t bet on it.
Aren’t Adobe engineers a bit too busy with dissecting and integrating Macromedia code (e.g., Project Apollo, Freehand autopsy, etc.)?
And of course, their Windows only projects:
Adobe® Acrobat® 3D software, which includes all the features of Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Professional and Adobe LiveCycle™ Designer 7.0 software (for forms).
System requirements (Windows® only)
* Microsoft® Windows 2000 with Service Pack 2, Windows XP Professional or Home Edition, or Windows XP Tablet PC Edition
* Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.5
* 512MB of RAM (1GB recommended)
* 1GB of available hard-disk space (includes cache for optional installation files)
* 1,024×768 screen resolution
* CD-ROM drive
* Video card with pixel shader support and DirectX 8.1 required for video hardware acceleration (recommended for optimal performance)
* Internet or phone connection required for product activation
Supported features (Windows® only)
* Microsoft Office 2000, Office XP, or Office 2003 required for 3D OCX and PDF Maker
You are an idiot.
Hundreds of thousands of people feed their families with these products, and the faster the application, the more work they can get done, and the more money they make.
But, you’re problem just some kid buying things with your parent’s credit card.
Adobe should change their name. They don’t deserve to have an A in their name. They should rebrand themselves as Microbe.