“During the Adobe Live event, Robert Raiola of Adobe Systems France said that Adobe will halt the development of Freehand and GoLive, according to MacGeneration… Adobe will concentrate all its efforts on Illustrator 13 and Dreamweaver (which will have a new interface similar to other adobe products). The canning of Freehand and GoLive is no big surprise. Since Adobe purchased Macromedia, the company had two illustration packages (Freehand and Illustrator) and two web design apps (GoLive and Dreamweaver) in its repertoire. As these products were previously competitors, it seemed likely only one in each category would survive,” Dennis Sellers reports for Macsimum News.
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Adobe has done a good job by keeping the best apps overall in each category. We would have picked Illustrator and Dreamweaver over Freehand and GoLive respectively, too. Hopefully, Adobe will find ways to take the good ideas in Freehand and GoLive and integrate them into Illustrator and Dreamweaver.
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Good one MDN:
“good ideas in GoLive”…ROTFL
Sigh, and most of the print shops I go to will continue to hold on to their preference for Freehand files.
Do we get a refund for purchasing Creative Suite that contains a no longer supported package?
Magic Word issue as in this is a real issue unless they will replace it with Dreamweaver for free.
Sad, really really sad if this becomes true.
I like both Freehand and GoLive, think they’re both better than Illustrator and Dreamweaver which are – for me, personally – harder to handle.
Hope this is not the last word spoken in that case.
I’m with Bildad…Dreamweaver better get bundled into CS3, or they’re going to have a (somewhat) angry mob on their hands.
I’ve been using GoLive for years … and, before it, Adobe PageMill.
I wonder if Adobe will allow an upgrade path for GoLive Users to transfer to Dreamweaver when the time comes?
MDN Magic Word: “really” … as in it’s really annoying to have to learn new software.
Dreamweaver is hard. It has a steep learning curve.
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Find new printshops. Incorporate an EPS into a Quark or InDesign file. A “preference” for FreeHand files should not mean they can’t do Illustrator.
I figured this would happen. I’ve gotten pretty much used to Illustrator (although I still pull FH10 out of the closet now and again), but I’ve never liked Dreamweaver much. Here’s hoping that CS3 will feature Frustrator and DreamLiver – new apps with the best of both worlds.
No surprises there. And good riddance, too.
Bildad: “Do we get a refund for purchasing Creative Suite that contains a no longer supported package?” Never buy an application because you think it will be around forever. For most single-user apps, if it doesn’t live up to its value over a year or two, it’s not worth it.
I guess most preferences are formed by whichever package you learned first — I learned Freehand first and have since then preferred every incarnation of it to that of Illustrator.
“I’m with Bildad…Dreamweaver better get bundled into CS3, or they’re going to have a (somewhat) angry mob on their hands.”
I’m sure they just replace GoLive with Dreamweaver in CS3. I can’t imagine they’d do anything different.
Why should they give you anything just because they’ve moved on and replaced some software. Do you think Microsoft are going to refund for every copy of XP when Vista comes out? In fact when has a software company compensated customers because software is no longer developed? What about programs that only ever have one version? Should I get my money for Freehand back?
NOOOO! FreeHand is so much better than crappy old Illustrator.
they picked the best choices by far.
personally i found freehand and golive awkard and non intuitive to use.
but thats just me.
Dreamweaver is best in class and I would have been sad to se it go. I hope they improve performance and usability. It sits here burning 8-10% of one of my CPUs when it is suppossedly idle. That’s more than iTunes does when converting AACs. What’s it DOING?
Of course it’s using Rosetta, but Office:Mac doesn’t do that when hidden.
It would be nice if these apps would have performance enhancements we happy users can download after the initial version comes out. They could have a quick-build version to get the feature set out the door, then a constant stream of improvements as routines are rewritten for performance and resource utilization.
Why not?
Illustrator beat out Freehand for most users just as Dreamweaver beat out Go Live but there’s still one app left to figure out. Are they going to get rid of Fireworks? You can do all that Fireworks does in Illustrator or ImageReady.
cool i always prefer Ilusstrator to Freehand anyway, for the web apps, now Adobe makes my choicemuch easier, hmm, i wonder what name for the newly combined app : DreamLive, GoWeaver… 🙂
It’s still a bit sad to think that GoLive will now GoDead. I began my web development with GoLive when it was Cyberstudio, but moved to Dreamweaver when version 2 came out, as it was much less prone to crashing or rewriting my code!
Very recently I’ve been dabbling with GoLive again, just because there are things about it that are quite nice, and it doesn’t seem as slow as Dreamweaver, but I always bounce right back because of some really annoying things about it.
If they can take some of the great features and make an über-dreamweaver, then in the end we all win, right?
Good riddance GoLive
I just wonder what the upgrade policy will be for those who own the macromedia studio suite.
A large Valesine will be involved I’m certain.
>Illustrator beat out Freehand for most users just as Dreamweaver beat out Go Live but there’s still one app left to figure out. Are they going to get rid of Fireworks? You can do all that Fireworks does in Illustrator or ImageReady.
But working with slices just drives me absolutely mad! Fireworks is so easy to set up frames, rollovers, slices, etc. One of our designers prefers to build site templates in Illustrator. The trouble is, the nice high-res EPS screen-render of the artwork he sees gets completely mangled when it’s converted to bitmaps. That’s one thing about Fireworks, you get vector tools but you constantly see in ‘bitmap mode’
“Do you think Microsoft are going to refund for every copy of XP when Vista comes out?”
Different story dude. You have a company that has bought out another and the customers that chose Macomedia had better be treated like they would had they gone with Adobe, meaning, getting some sort of a break on an upgrade.
Your Microsoft analogy doesn’t compare in this case. It’s not a simple upgrade from one version to the next
I learned FreeHand first. Version 3 back in 1990. Today, while I own FreeHand MX, I barely use it. Back in the 1990s I was doing a lot of mapping and FreeHand’s stylesheets were a life-saver. I will occasionally pull-out FreeHand for big jobs like that.
But Illustrator handles text better. Illustrator is more stable. Illustrator’s palettes make much more sense. Overall FreeHand’s interface has become much more clunky with each version after 5.5, whereas Illustrator’s polish is improving by leaps and bounds.
FreeHand’s bezier handling is far superior. Hell Photoshop 7’s bezier handling is superior to Illustrator (too bad in CS 2 they took Photoshop BACKWARDS). Being able to set multiple points to curve points automatically in FreeHand is a massive time-saver. I love FreeHand’s “Name All Colors” Xtra (since co-opted by InDesign). FreeHand’s totally customizable keyboard shortcut’s rock.
FreeHand’s 32 ft pasteboard is wonderful, but I’m barely limited by Illustrator’s 22 ft pasteboard.
Contrary to popular opinion, Illustrator does handle multi-page documents, however it is really clunky to do so. Illustrator need to improve a little, but for speeds sake I prefer not to copy the FreeHand interface.
If Adobe could put the FreeHand print dialog in Illustrator that would be the biggest winner of all.
Has no one has considered a possibility the often occurs when a company no longer wants to support or develop a product… They sell it?
What’s to say that Adobe won’t put Freehand and GoLive up for sale?
Ted: “What’s to say that Adobe won’t put Freehand and GoLive up for sale?”
They dont want the competition.