Will Apple drop Mac OS X’s Darwin kernel in favor of Microsoft’s Windows Vista kernel?

“Not to worry, the Mac OS X “look & feel” is going to stay. So is compatibility with existing Mac OS X app’s. What is going away is the XNU or “Darwin” kernel, based on Mach + BSD Unix 4.0,” “Sharp” writes for osViews. “Instead, the Mac OS X API’s will be a Runtime Layer atop the Windows Vista. Security, stability, and POSIX compatibility are all supposed to be hallmarks of the upcoming Vista. Though how *nix-friendly it will be remains to be seen… evidently, [Apple is] looking to Vista to be the underpinnings of the continued ‘Mac look & feel’ and allow their userbase to run ALL Mac OS X app’s as well as ALL Windows app’s natively. Sounds good on paper, but I’m nervous about the unknown implications.”

“Sharp” writes, “It could work, but it feels like Genesis after Peter Gabriel. Still a band making songs, just not the tunes that originally made you a fan. This is the ‘Phil Colins era’ of the Macintosh.”

Full article, including illustrations, here.

MacDailyNews Take: First Dvorak, then Enderle, and now “Sharp.” Granted, not the best of company, but the drumbeat grows louder for dropping the current Mac OS X kernel in favor of Microsoft’s Windows Vista’s kernel. And, Dvorak actually did sort of get the whole Intel-based Mac thing right long before it was announced. So, what do you think? Do you want a Mac that’s based on Microsoft’s Windows Vista kernel?

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139 Comments

  1. No way is Apple stupid enough to do this. Mac OS is secure and stable because it is based on open source Unix, and is not dependant on Microsoft.

    These articles are dreams of very jealous microsoft supported writters. They covet mac users who don’t read their weekly output. The world they report on is undergoing massive changes and they are scared out of their minds.

  2. While I’ve heard a lot about changing from the mediocre performance of the Mach kernal, why would anyone use the untested, unshippable Vista product?

    My Comp Sci Master’s degree buddy says the XP kernel contains the GUI already, so running OS X’s GUI on top of it doesn’t sound plausible. Another *NIX kernel maybe.

    MDN Magic Word “glass” – some of these guys have been snorting white powder off of glass.

  3. This is pointless, if the thing that makes a mac different is the operating system, why on earth would Apple EVER use Vista for its kernel? Why would Apple relinquish all of the benefits, the main reasons people like OSX. Most of all, why would Apple choose a kernel from their arch enemy? They’d go with Solaris or Linux BEFORE they’d ever use Microsoft’s kernel.

  4. I just quote Forest Gump “stupid is is stupid doeoeoeoes”

    If this person really believes it makes sense to replace a working stable secure solution with a much-hyped-not-quite-there-idiocy, maybe he will also be interested in buying sacs of air.
    I will even make him an offer he can’t refuse: 2 sacs of air for the price of only 99.99. Payment up front…

    But I guess “Sharp” ate too many mushrooms

  5. If I wanted to run Windows, I would have bought a PC long ago.

    I don’t know just how far removed from computer programming these journalists are, but adding a graphics kit to the Vista kernel does not make it OS X.

    This is total BS put forth to get “Sharp” known.

    Not to mention the issue of licensing the kernel from MS for such a purpose – unthinkable in itself.

  6. OW! My aching head with all of the speculation. At that point the Mac would be dead. I have enough trouble with the Mac”TEL” B.S.

    At this point you can’t believe Apple, they say one thing and do another. I just don’t know anymore, it sounds ridiculous, but that hasn’t stopped them from switching to Intel and launching Bootcamp. Say what you want, but it’s making the faithful feel hoodwinked.

  7. Dvorak didn’t really get it right, he said Apple’s next generation would be on Intel since Motorola couldn’t deliver. The first few comments about his article told him it would be the yet unannounced IBM 970 (G5), but he hadn’t a clue.

    Now if he would’ve written that Apple would drop the G5 for intel, that would’ve been a shocker.

    This new article is really just pure fantasy of a Windows user. And of course, this is what they would fantasize about. It’s their wet dream!

    Instead, they should simply try the Mac OS and see the error of their ways.

  8. Who among the faithful will be the last standing when our beloved OS is history? Mark your calendars. I say 2010 looks very likely, maybe sooner. The march is on. Vista is the future. Call it FUD at your own peril. Go right out and and buy some Macs. The Apple stores are full of
    ’em and the losers in colorful t-shirts even more full of lies about the future.

  9. Hell no.

    Unless the Vista kernel was better than the OSX one why would I want that. Microsoft is synonymous with mediocre or worse in my mind.

    The fact that OSX is built on UNIX, a truly professional operating system, is a very good thing.

  10. Apple always intended to go to Intel. It didn’t take magic to figure it out. OpenStep was built to work on Intel hardware. Steve Jobs himself even wanted it on Intel hardware. Once on Intel hardware, it made sense to make it possible to run Windows also. These two things really shouldn’t have been surprises. But to think that Apple would give up its independence, and become dependent on Microsoft after the setup they’ve created with OSX and the fact MS is having problems delivering on “copied” ideas, I would think it is rather ridiculous to think Apple would just give up on OSX and use a Microsoft Windows kernel. This is complete garbage meant to scare Mac users back to Windows. Just more FUD to scare people, first viruses, now attempts at taking away the “Soul” of the Mac. What next? Hiring a hitman for Steve? These people need to grow up, and get a life…

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