Apple vs. Apple likely be in judge’s hands by Wednesday

“The trademark battle between Apple Computer and The Beatles’ Apple Corps record label will likely be in a judge’s hands on Wednesday. British Justice Edward Mann will decide whether to grant Apple Corps an injunction that would bar Apple Computer from using its logo related to selling music through the iTunes Music Store. The record company could then pursue damages against Apple Computer,” Jeremy Kirk reports for IDG News Service. “London’s High Court heard detailed testimony from two Apple executives on Monday and an expert witness for Apple Corps. Eddy Cue, vice president of iTunes, said he disagreed with Apple Corps attorney Geoffrey Vos that the logo used in the brushed silver aluminum bar in the iTunes application advertised music. ‘I think it is used in connection with the service, not the content,’ Cue said.”

Kirk reports, “Whether the third lawsuit is the swan song that ends all trademark disputes between the companies is impossible to gauge. Neil Aspinall, a long-time Beatles confidant who has run Apple Corps since 1973, attended Monday’s hearing and was seen speaking with Apple Computer officials after the day’s testimony.”

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Jobs: Apple vs. Apple ‘could drag on for years – it’s unfortunate because we love the Beatles’ – September 28, 2003
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  1. Apple Computer vs Apple Who? Nobody under the age of 45 or so has a clue who they are and could care less. I suspect that the bulk of iPods and iTunes sales are going to the younger generation who doesn’t know who the Beatles are and doesn’t care. I’m not saying that the Beatles aren’t an important group from the 60’s, but THEY ARE FROM THE 60’S – who cares any more….

  2. Bill Brown –

    Yes. I agree. What came from the 1960s must always remain in the 1960s. Our convenient decimal system allows us to destroy or render irrelevant everything each time the second digit from the right changes.

    In fact, Apple ceased to matter on January 1, 1980. So this whole argument is pointless.

  3. Nobody under the age of 45 or so has a clue who they are and could care less. I suspect that the bulk of iPods and iTunes sales are going to the younger generation who doesn’t know who the Beatles are and doesn’t care.

    This is just too incorrect to not comment on. First, I doubt most people over the age of 45 could tell you the name of the Beatle’s record company. They can sing the songs and name the members but I don’t think the name of the company ever mattered much to most people. It was founded after the height of their success and didn’t ever do much.

    Second the Beatles remain incredibly popular, especially with the young generation. I’m 20 and listen to them regularly, as do many of my friends. Of the young, iTunes using, iPod toting, music sharing (legal and otherwise) population, I would guess that half have a significant amount of beatles music. I have 256 megabytes of it. So the band is a big deal and it is still important, especially to iPod owners. Resolving this and getting the beatles’ stuff on the iTMS would be huge, and would probably sell quite nicely.

  4. Hey duperSCREW!

    The “Beatles” were never as “revolutionary” or “inventive” as is always claimed. Anyone who’s a trained musician with a background in music history and/or music theory can tell you that. As a matter of fact, compared to much of the classical and jazz libraries, the Beatles’ “music” is trite and pedantic. And don’t even get me started on how they treated Pete Best or how absolutely worthless Ringo Starr is as a “drummer”.

    So, yaah, I hope Apple Corps gets their f-cking ASSES handed to them. Just like McCartney — with his efforts to change “Lennon-McCartney” to “McCartney-Lennon” — they’re a bunch of money-grubbing assclowns who are too stupid to realize that (a) they don’t matter anymore, and (b) they could be making more money by actually PUTTING THE F-CKING BEATLES CATALOG ON ITUNES!!!

    Screw them.

  5. I have one better than the MDN April 1st article:

    Apple Computer needs to BUY apple music and then start signing artists who are sick of Virgin, Sony, Universal, etc…

    That way, the artist could get a bigger cut, apple could get a bigger cut – everyone wins (except the old school record labels.)

    Just think – buying a physical CD could become an iTunes music store option. (Watch out Amazon…)

    Perhaps you could even do what you do with iPhoto where you could pick the songs you want on your CD and they mail it to you (or mail it out as a gift to someone…)

    – Oh the possibilities…..

  6. For the year ended Jan. 1, 2005, Apple Corps claimed a loss of nearly $950,000. It noted in financial statements that more than $2.2 million each was paid for the “promotional services” of McCartney, Starr, Yoko Ono and Olivia Harrison.

  7. A more accurate way to put things for Apple Corps is that the name no longer means anything outside of the world of Beatles fans, and any Beatles fan who knows of Apple Corps knows that it has nothing to do with Apple Computer.

    If the case was brought in the United States it would have likely have gone nowhere based on a case in 80’s where the owners of the Lexis legal database service sued Toyota for using Lexus as a car brand name. The Lexis owner (Mead) claimed that Toyota would dillute the Lexis trademark since the likely buyers of Lexus automobiles included lots of lawyers who use Lexis. Their claim got bounced because the court decided that anyone familiar with the Lexis trademark would be sophisticated enough to not confuse a legal database service with a car.

    The same thing applies here, unfortunately the case is in the wrong country–anyone who is aware of the Apple Corps trademark is sophisticated enough a music buyer to not confuse Apple Corps with Apple Computer.

  8. DreamTheEndless >

    Actually, Apple should go one better and purchase EMI Group plc and/or the 50% of Sony-BMG that Bertelsmann have now decided is no longer as important as not having shareholders that they don’t want.

    Purchasing EMI Group for $3 billion or thereabouts would – as I have said on numerous occasions – control of a massive catalogue of artists and licensed repertoire, including EMI, Virgin, Parlophone, Capitol Records, Charisma, Chrysalis and others. Artists would include Pink Floyd, The Beatles, Pet Shop Boys, Peter Gabriel, Genesis, selected works by King Crimson, Janet Jackson, and many others.

    Other benefits would include a massive music publishing empire, but also a seat within IFPI and the various national bodies (RIAA, BPI, et al) which would be a great way to disrupt the “groupthink” mentality of a record industry dominated by a few international conglomerates who can’t see the future staring them in the face and who still think that increasing prices is the way to increase sales.

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