“In a stunning move, BAPCo, the industry-standard Windows benchmarking consortium, announced that Apple Computer has joined up as a member. BAPCo is responsible for the SYSmark 2004SE and MobileMark benchmark suites we use at PC Magazine Labs for testing PCs. BAPCo also produces the webserver test WEBmark,” Joel Santo Domingo reports for Gearlog.
“This is significant because it means that Apple has now committed to Windows-based performance testing, and it will influence industry-standard testing methodologies going forward, possibly including Mac OS X testing. We speculate that Apple will now develop Windows drivers for Intel Macs like the iMac, Mac mini and MacBook Pro with Intel Core Duo processors. You will probably still need to buy your own copy of Windows XP (or Vista), but this is exciting stuff,” Santo Domingo reports. “We’ve seen rumors that Apple will include virtualization technology in Mac Os X 10.5 (Leopard), but benchmarks like SYSmark and MobileMark don’t work well in virtualized environments since they use ultilities that call low level processes (like anti-virus). This bodes well for native Windows support on Macs in the future.”
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“Is Dvorak right..???”
About as often as Nostrodamus!
I would steal a copy of Windose and try it out. I would never steal music, other software apps, or even a candy bar – but when it comes to M$ I will not feel guilty
Conspiracy theory-
This is announced the same day as Avie Tevanian is announced as leaving?
I TOLD YOU!!
Vista will be your MASTER!
Why do you think Dell all of a sudden is starting to sell a line of premium PC’s?
They know Apple has a hard on for Dell.
Now that Mac’s ARE PC’s in every aspect, it’s a simple matter to start selling Mac’s with Windows installed.
Apple stands to sell a lot of hardware with this Windows or Mac OS X option on their hardware.
Just look at all the stores Apple is building
You can’t sustain all these stores with a minority OS.
Apple is taking on Dell and Dell knows it.
Macdude,
Clearly the xanax is wearing off. Perhaps a dose of Thorazine is in order.
You need to get more sleep…oh..I see you’ve dozed off… good….someone will wake you later in time to change your Depends.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste. If you only had one.
Don’t make us all collectively come over there and spank you.
MDN word “expect” as in “It’s MacDude. What did you expect?”
I have a friend whose business is locked into the microsft world. He likes what he sees on my macs. He buys multi thousand $$$ high end stuff.
If he can have a quality, slick apple system with osx, that runs windows too, where else does he go that offers that? Apple would have a fat sale on its hands.
maybe apple is taking on the near impossible task of creating a one-size-fits all development kit. develop your app in xCode and compile for Intel and PPC = Universal Binary. I know the OS is a whole different story with completely separate APIs but what if apple was able to create a API translator which did all the work of cross-developing for both windows and mac? That would push a torrent of developers on to the mac platform as well as a quickly growing library of universal binary (mactel,macppc,wintel) applications.
One can run Windows 98 on G5’s and Windows XP on Mactels with Core Duo’s using this software.
http://openosx.com/wintel/
Just don’t expect to 3D game very well.
Blah blah blah so what else is Leopard gonna offer besides stupid windows drivers. What about the rest of the ppc users that have not had a chance to go out and by an intel. What is gonna make this new OSX better than tiger besides the use of the worst OS. I just got done downloading some pics for my dad on his laptop which is a dell I really forgot how lame Win is. Back to my powerbook =)
Twinkie:
“You know i love apple and everything. I’ve had one for as long as i have used computers. This looks a little fishy to me. I hope all the (stupid, crazy) rumors of Apple giving up on Mac OS. I would hate to have to use Windows. I hope that it means they are coming up with a way to run Windows applications natively WITHOUT Windows. That would be great.”
After all this time and effort, not very likely.
What this is about is making the testing of side-by-side, hardware comparisons equal.
So that when Steve (or whoever) demos software at future MacWorlds and shows how a Mac smokes a PC, it will be because of the OS, not the hardware.
No one will be able to complain about how a Mac was “enhanced” or a Windows PC was crippled.
Not that some won’t try.
The cat’s out of the bag… Jobs goes Hollywood full blast. Rest of Apple top brass cashes in and gets ready to bail out:
http://edgar.brand.edgar-online.com/default.aspx?cik=0000320193
What next, then? Microsoft buys Apple and kills OS X. Or better yet, Dell buys Apple on the cheap and kills Microsoft.
Vicarious entertainment…
I personally don’t understand why there are so many rumors floating around on how 10.5 is going to allow you to use OSX and XP or Vista. That is exactly the opposite of what it seems Apple is trying to do. The reason that they are changing to Intel as opposed to the Power PC’s is because they wanted more people to come to Mac’s and use their operating system. They created this on Intel so that everyone could (eventually) use every single app on a Mac. They are trying to get people to use OSX, not make it so that some Mac users might become tempted to purchase a Microsoft PC because they become familiar with it on their Mac.
The Steve is a genius.
MDN Magic Word: “zipper” as in, ah, never mind.
i like the idea of os x.5 having a universal translator in realtime so i can beam myself up to the planet rumor and dial a gate to a world where apple becomes the standard that all operating systems are judged by. a world where microsoft goes the way of the ancients.
Okay, so what happened with OS/2?
IBM made Windows programs run better in OS/2 than they did in Windows 3.1. So what did Microsoft do? Bring out Windows 95 which broke compatibliity with Win 3.1. And refuse to let IBM use the libraries it needed to run Win95 apps.
Likely the same thing will happen if Apple decides to run Windows apps in OS X Leopard.
The darkside overclouding slowly is
“IBM made Windows programs run better in OS/2”
Here is the key difference. The Windows would not be running ‘in’ MacOS X, but the Intel chip will control both OS’s. XP/Vista etc. never get to see MacOS X, so there is little chance of breaking.
I don’t need to run Windows apps, but I see this as a good thing. If it was MacOS 9 and XP together I would be worried, but MacOS X (+ iLife) with XP and the migration will be to X.
Now what would a developer do if all his customers were buying iMacs to run both OS’s for 50% of their PCs (who need Win apps) and MacOS-only for the other 50% (who only need Office)? Quickly develop a Mac version to stay in business!
MW: ‘MUCH’ as in it won’t take much to get businesses to change once they see they need a new PC to run Vista anyway.
For five years and running Mac OS X has been superior to windows.
People are switching, but apple want to increase the rate.
how do they bring the windows folk to the mac world?
simple, they literally bring windows to the Mac. – as an option of course, the Mac OS X is and always will be the default.
People, esp windows users it seems are hesitant of change, can you blame them? after the hellish experience of windows? once you give them the confidence to come over to the mac universe, theyll SEE the difference.
What do people do with a computer? they run programs, thats a very windows way of describing the user experience, a mac user would probably say they use the computer as tool for productivity and creativity. But anyway these windows users feel apprehensive about switching because of the apps issue. This step by Apple would erase that issue.
April Fool, Right ?
um, wtf, why does this mean anything about windows benchmarking? i get the whole windows consortium thing, but isn’t it possible that Apple just wants a standardized benchmark suite from a known name for OS X? that would just be way to obious for a jouranlist to mention eh?
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The quickest, easiest way to get more people to switch to Macs is get games for Macs released the same time they are released for PCs.
Simple.
“It’s just silly to think that Apple is giving up on Mac OS. If for no other reason, there would be mass resignation of Apple employees the day of the announcement. And a lot of bad will”
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You really dont get it do you?
This is solely about increasing the market share of Mac OS.
Imagine this:
Apple will be the ONLY company that makes computers that can run both OS’s.
What will happen is that you will ONLY be able to boot up in Mac OS X BUT you will run windows within OS X just like any other piece of software.
This is a fantastic move – it means that companies that need to run windows and Mac OS will have to buy their computers from Apple.
Apple will NOT licence it’s OS to DELL or any other computer maker, so those companies are probably shit scared of this as they will not be able to make a product that can do this.
re: Conspiracy theory-
This is announced the same day as Avie Tevanian is announced as leaving?
CRAP!!! – APPLE ANNOUNCED THIS LAST YEAR!
DON’T MAKE SOMETHING OF NOTHING.
There is no conspiracy theory.
End of story.
The real trick here is XCode… If you write a program you will have the option of checking “make universal” checkbox and XCode translates for you and makes a Universal App that runs on X86 or PPC hardware… guess what… now programmers are enticed to write for the mac because when they compile they can mak it Universal with one checkbox instead of months of new code lines bieng written… It also means Maac only software can now simply be ported to X86… Safari for Windows anyone??? iLife for Windows??? gets exciting doesn’t it???
If Dvorak says that Apple is dropping OS X to use Vista on their new hardware then you can pretty much bet on the opposite.
You heard it here folks. Dvorak’s predictions prove it.
Microsoft is dropping Vista and will depend on Mac OS X for all of it’s future needs.
It will cost Gates 40 Billion to switch.
Gates is quoted as saying,”40 Billion doesn’t buy what it used to but I think we made a good deal. Why waste any more time trying to copy the best? We went with Microsoft’s historic strength and bought what we needed.”