“Here’s some new ammunition for those who think Apple’s move to Intel processors is about building computers that can run both Mac and Windows applications,” Sandy McMurray writes for Corante. “Apple’s U.S. patent application 0050246554 (‘System and method for creating tamper-resistant code’) describes scenarios in which the user would choose a ‘first operating system’ and a ‘second operating system’ from a set that includes Mac OS X, Microsoft Windows, and Linux. There’s also mention of a virtual machine, and the option to choose between ‘Macintosh computer’ and ‘Windows PC.'”
McMurray writes, “When Windows Vista ships, Microsoft will encourage users to upgrade. Many home computers will be unable to meet Vista’s minimum system requirements… Apple has more than a year to come up with a competitively priced computer capable of running both Mac and Windows applications. It could run both systems at once, or — as the patent seems to suggest — run one system natively and the other in a virtual machine… Michael Dell should be concerned. So should HP, Gateway, Lenovo/IBM, and every other Windows PC maker. Apple controls OS X, and does not license it to others. Therefore, only Apple can build a personal computer capable of running Windows and Mac OS X.”
Full article here.
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MacDailyNews Note: Following Apple CEO Steve Jobs announcement of the transition from PowerPC to Intel-based Macs, CNET’s Ina Fried reported:
After Jobs’ presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. “That doesn’t preclude someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will,” he said. “We won’t do anything to preclude that.” However, Schiller said the company does not plan to let people run Mac OS X on other computer makers’ hardware. “We will not allow running Mac OS X on anything other than an Apple Mac,” he said. Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: See our “take” in the article, How Apple can win the OS war.
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Intel-based Macs running both Mac OS X and Windows will be good for Apple – June 10, 2005
Why buy a Dell when Apple ‘Macintel’ computers will run both Mac OS X and Windows? – June 08, 2005
Windows users who try Apple’s Mac OS X Tiger might not want to go back – June 07, 2005
Microsoft: The safest way to run Windows is on your Mac – October 08, 2004
Game over
Steve Jobs is going to eat Bill Gates alive. Wait until the Leopard Servers hit the street capable of running Exchange….the Xserves are already monsters…Once they hit and can run OS X, Vista, or Linux…why would anyone in their right mind buy a machine that can only run one?
“Vista will never run on Intel Macs!”
Can someone tell me why this is? Did somebody say Microsoft could prevent that? How? Am I dense?
I hope the Mac OSX that ships on the MacTels gets cracked ASAP. Apple as an even bigger monopolist doesn’t sit will with me.
If Apple were to bring aboard a couple of first-tier retailers, I’d be more at ease with their huge successes. But I envision a company that wants complete control over your use of their products, a company that wants to dig their hooks in to you so in the future you can purchase nothing but their products (the manner they employ DRM).
Do you fellow Mac users feel comfortable with Apple being an even bigger, controlling monopolist?
I hope the Mac OSX that ships on the MacTels gets cracked ASAP. Apple as an even bigger monopolist doesn’t sit will with me.
If Apple were to bring aboard a couple of first-tier retailers, I’d be more at ease with their huge successes. But I envision a company that wants complete control over your use of their products, a company that wants to dig their hooks in to you so in the future you can purchase nothing but their products (the manner they employ DRM).
Do you fellow Mac users feel comfortable with Apple being an even bigger, controlling monopolist?
I hope the Mac OSX that ships on the MacTels gets cracked ASAP. Apple as an even bigger monopolist doesn’t sit will with me.
If Apple were to bring aboard a couple of first-tier retailers, I’d be more at ease with their huge successes. But I envision a company that wants complete control over your use of their products, a company that wants to dig their hooks in to you so in the future you can purchase nothing but their products (the manner they employ DRM).
Do you fellow Mac users feel comfortable with Apple being an even bigger, controlling monopolist?
The ultimate irony … Windows is safer on a Mac … M$ can still sell more copies of Windows so they will be resistant to prevent it.
The PC makers are the ones who are going to suffer … they will already face competition in the low end from the next generation of game consoles that have basic capabilities …
2006 is going to be very interesting indeed.
Sorry PR, how does that beat big Bill? He’ll still sell Exchange and Vista. It’s the PC hardware manufactures that take the first hit. And later big Bill when people start choosing OSX as their number one and never upgrade Windows again.
I don’t bother Apple becoming a monopolist if what they deliver is right for me, it would be my only choice anyway
I think leopard will have some amazing capablities to run windows programs; a rosetta stone for Windows applications. I think it is a possiblity that the Apple kids said they wouldn’t promote Windows on their machines because they wouldn’t have to. It would have the built in capablity to run Windows applications without opening Windows. I say this in a hopeful manner, and I won’t be dissapointed when I see other wise. I still don’t think I’ll buy any Windows applications.
To: Mac & PC Guy
I don’t worry about Apple becoming monopolistic because they focus on making quality & inovative products. Perhaps a stronghold on the computer industry would cause them to become complacent, but I don’t think they will slip untill Steve Jobs retires. To me he seems to enjoy making fantasic new products that are easy to use, and I don’t think he cares about money as much as people think. He might have a personal grudge towards Microsoft that drives him to eat up their market share but I think that is driven by a bitterness that the computer world isn’t were it could be. If everything worked as well as Macs do together there would be a lot more money for inovative technologies to compete with Apple. Less tech support, less virus support, and a higher standard of quality. I’ll stop sharing my visions of grander now.
What Steve is thinking is not going to be as obvious than that. Keep dreaming.
> a rosetta stone
Hey Hawkins, put the cat back in the bag and seal it for chrissakes!
VISTA – The end of M$ era.
If your motives are sincere, MDN, delete this page because it includes speculation that could harm us all.
but it’s sure going to give Steve Ballmer ulcers all the same
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Go on, keep overserving, over delivering, over specifying, over building.
The more there is overserving, the more Apple is setting itself up for disruption, like Windows is.
Apple needs to STOP piling crap onto their OS and hardware. They are too far into the ‘one size fits all’ thinking, and this is the next example.
Only dumb ass geeks who sit home and beat off in front of their computers because they dont know how to get a date relish all this crap.
Apparently, just like you — thanks for the interview.
Any issue of getting the Mac hardware full of viruses and spyware if it’s running Windows as well as X? The mac side of things don’t worry me, since it’s been proven how secure it is. But could it mess up the Mac hardware performance if both are running?
F*ck you macheads, I’ll eat Steve Jobs for breakfast (Throws chair across room).
Windows Viger, I mean Vista, will stop all this f*n b*llsh*t (Spits into the trash)
You never know, maybe I’ll buy Apple with my spare change…then convert them into well behaved Microsoft developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, (gasp for breath) developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, (breath & sweat more) developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers (passes out).
You dumbs asses going against Apple. Live with it, it’s the future
Apple is the future
Hmmn…. a tour of the top manufacturers for pcs (excluding some niche ones) v Apple shows the majority of their machines will suck at running Vista. I would be less worried about companies that deliver some performance w/ top of the line parts (lenovo/ibM) or innovate to the ludicrous (while maintaining a strong 3 year warranty and good corporate support ex: HP). DELL and a lot of others have something to worry about. Apple, specifying their graphics cards for years doesn’t deliver ‘shared graphics memory’ (read: lowest level of glass, poor vista experience, and the cheapest graphics chipset they could afford), but rather puts reasonable cards in. This is about the only place I see people paying money for vista v bundled (if you already have a good machine w/ a decent card). Will Apple get over-elegant w/ their minimalist ideas and put an entire intel set inside their machine..probably not considering ‘objective quartz’. Is the Apple price competitive? Oh yeah…it definitely is… so that second button will probably come back to powerbooks next year (about time).
Vista locked from running on an intel based Mac? Only if intel gives microsoft a chip series and NEVER deviates from when providing hardware to Apple (not happening), or of course if it somehow reads a partition map in it’s nice non-native format and decides to choke the HFS+ journaled part…funny how they didn’t do this w/ xp sp 2 for linux partitions (regardless of their fear campaign)..not going to happen.
Vista screwing up your Mac w/ security….It’s only going to happen when your machine is running both or is booted from Vista. The hardware helps, It looks like Apple will make both a sandbox, firewall, and a breakwater (to block corruption when booted from Vista). It’s really a big problem.
I don’t see Apple piling crap onto their OS. The OS has been tightened in the last release. If you think about the GUI, sure you have a few more things AVAILABLE to you, but they aren’t the OS, they also don’t kill off performance and can be taken out. Spotlight and Dashboard are not curses.
Pro machines are where Apple needs to get w/ the program. Either get on the ATI X1XXX series w/ built in GPGPU for H.264 etc (2000% transcoding speed increase) or slap custom chips on there because duh..finally Apple gets on the video bandwagon and their own hardware is slow as hell.
Beating off in front of your computer is fine as long as someone else is doing it for you.
I believe this the “Huge impact..” Stev J mentioned.
read the patent FULLY
It makes you have a grin as big as a house!
This is no more evolution, it’s a revolution and a salvo of fire that would make Fort Knox collapse.
The OS war is on again! And Microsoft suddenly is the weaker.
When will these dorks figure it out: Macs ARE competitively priced! NOW!
We’ve all seen article after article with side by side cost analyses. If you configure a Mac and a Dell, feature for feature, both machines cost around the same (give or take a couple hundred dollars).
Sure, you can’t buy a feature-crippled box for $299, but Apple beautifully counters that with the Mac mini, which is a nice little feature-packed system for not much more than a vanilla DOSbox.
When people look at Vista and the hardware requirements, then think about how fab their iPod is, maybe Apple will win over a few more Windows drones. Although, there are still a lot of people contentedly running Windows 95 and 98 who could care less as long as their email works.
What Apple needs to do is actually ADVERTISE their wares… at least a LITTLE bit. Please?
MDM Magic Word: upon
Once upon a time, Apple ruled the universe… LOL
Mac & PC Guy–
I’m not worried about Apple getting too big like you’re describing. The strict control is a good thing for the most part, but it’s also a survival tool for a relatively small company that swim’s against the tide. Once a company gets really big, the opportunities change, as do the returns they get by being so strict.
Notice how M$ now can be “beleagured” and still pull in multiple billions of dollars, even though they haven’t released a new version on Windows in years?
For Apple to stay Apple, they need to run a tight ship, but once the established base gets to a critical point, it seems to me that the rules can change somewhat. Or, the other PC makers get their butts in gear and really try to catch up. In which case, we all win.