“Two worlds will collide in 2006, producing the first systems capable of running both Windows and Mac OS. (Maybe.) For years, computer users have sought a hybrid. Not a half-electric, half-gasoline motor vehicle, but a computer that combines the elegance of Apple’s software design with the raw horsepower of an Intel CPU. In 2006, that dream will come true,” PC World reports by way of The Washington Post.
“When Apple announced in June 2005 that it was abandoning IBM PowerPC processors in favor of an Intel engine, the blogosphere lit up at the possibility of buying brand-name PCs loaded with Apple’s Mac OS X. That won’t happen, at least not in a form that Apple will officially sanction. Apple will probably key the final release of its Mac OS for Intel processors to a specific piece of hardware included in the new Intel-based Macs,” PC World reports. “That means that the Apple family of computers will suddenly get a much needed power boost, initially in the notebook line. Held back primarily by the IBM-based chips’ lack of cooling capability, Apple has struggled to match the chip speed of its Intel-based Windows competitors. With Intel powering its products, Apple will no longer have to cope with this issue.”
“Don’t look for Apple to start marketing Windows-loaded computers anytime soon, though. That hybrid isn’t coming. But Apple’s next revision of its OS X operating system, code-named Leopard, is likely to arrive in late 2006, which is right around the time Windows Vista hits the shelves. With both platforms running on some of the same processors, the Apple-versus-Microsoft war could heat up,” PC World reports. “Also, look for some hacked-together systems (not released by Apple) in which an Apple computer runs Windows or dual-boots both OSs. Asked about that possibility when he made the Intel announcement, Apple CEO Steve Jobs seemed resigned to it. Apple will neither sell nor support such a thing, but ‘that doesn’t preclude someone from running [Windows] on a Mac,’ he said. ‘They probably will.'”
Full article here.
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MacDailyNews Take: As we’ve asked previously, if you can buy a computer from Apple that can run both Mac OS X and Windows applications at native speeds, why would anybody buy a crippled Windows-only Dell, HP, Gateway, Acer, Sony, etc.? Once people can see Mac OS X vs. Windows latest right in front of their faces, you know what happens. Bye-bye Windows.
Steve Jobs thinks big, not small. We believe that Jobs considers Microsoft Windows’ dominance illegitimate, undeserved, and a severe hinderance to the promise of personal computers. Windows dulls creativity with its inherent medicocrity. We certainly believe that “the world’s” choice of Windows has been a huge mistake and that people are starting to wake up to that fact. Jobs is not “resigned” to the possibility of running Windows on a Mac. With the switch to Intel, he’s positioning the Mac to kill box assemblers like Dell and, eventually, Windows.
MacDailyNews Take:
With recent PowerPC announcements, why the heck did Apple decide to switch to Intel? – October 27, 2005
How Apple can win the OS war – October 19, 2005
Mac OS X Leopard to contain ‘Red Box’ for natively running Windows applications? – June 23, 2005
Apple CEO Steve Jobs’ ultimate goal: ‘to take back the computer business from Microsoft’ – June 16, 2005
Intel’s built-in virtualization tech could be one way to run Windows on Intel-based Apple Macs
Intel-based Macs running both Mac OS X and Windows will be good for Apple – June 10, 2005
Why buy a Dell when Apple ‘Macintel’ computers will run both Mac OS X and Windows? – June 08, 2005
Windows users who try Apple’s Mac OS X Tiger might not want to go back – June 07, 2005
Microsoft: The safest way to run Windows is on your Mac – October 08, 2004
oh great another “IT analyst”
Steve Jobs is “resigned” to Windows running on an Intel Mac like the rabbit was “resigned” to being thrown into the briar patch. This move will eliminate two of the remaining few reasons to buy a windoze computer – Games and windoze only special application software. He has been chipping away at all the reasons for a while and has eliminated most of the reasons that existed already. The only one that will remain is that you can build your own PC – and for most users that is not an issue.
IT Analyst – What is your point? Since when does a company have to be all Windows or all Apple? You can keep your AD servers and your Exchange servers and still integrate Macs into your network. Apple does not have to compete with EVERYTHING Microsoft does.
BTW – Novell’s Active Directory was (some say still is) far superior to Windows NT Domains (which it competed with at the time). We all know what happened. Corporate customers do not always choose the best technology. I agree that MS AD is better than Mac or Linux, but I know several clients who have ditched AD anyway.
macman : “Windows “dulls creativity” when you spend most of your time battling spyware, viruses, constant crashing and a poor UI.”
Macman, I own both windows and mac computers.
I have never had a virus on my windows computers (have had them for going on 5 years.)
My windows computers never crash.
Spyware – sorry doesn´t happen if one has a firewall and uses firefox (don´t use IE)
Poor UI? Photoshop, Maya, etc is the same in Windows or Mac. I don´t spend much time in the OS UI. My computers are always on and always on some program.
I enjoy both my Mac and Windows computers. (Windows runs the programs faster.) But both are just tools. I paint with the computer, I paint with a brush. Both tools. I am the creative one, not the tool.
Jack A,
You missed one main reason people choose to buy a windoze computer. For those who have never used MacOS are afraid of buying Mac and find out they had made a mistake. Now Intel Mac removes that obstacle. If they buy Mac and decide it was not the OS they wanted, they can reload the computer with OS of their choice.
Macdude – See my answer above to macman.
Macdude: “I work IT in a Windows shop…”
But you don´t do creative work on a Windows computer. And Windows does not “dull” the creativity of the user as MDN says.
Look at all the great movies, videos, animation, art that we all see and enjoy everyday – lots of really creative stuff and lots (if not most) was done by a creative person using a Windows computer.
I have created projects where I went from Windows to Mac and back. My creativity was not dulled.
Why is Photoshop (or other creative program) dulled by, as MDN calls it, Windows “inherent medicocrity”?
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Macaday: “Getting anything at all done on Windows after using Mac is impossible…”
beryllium “My experience is very much like yours and is one of the reasons I left my job.”
Dumbest things I have heard today.
s – I don´t think a Mactel will be able to run Windows and vice-versa.
There will be Mactels and Wintels.
The final anaylsis will be which runs the programs faster and better?
Does a Mactel render faster than a Wintel?
Can a Mactel do a Photoshop function to a large file faster than a Wintel?
If not, Mactel is in serious problems.
Apple should release a version of OS X strictly for gaming.
Call it OS X “House cat”
Our partnership with intel will yield customized chips. No one knows squat. So wait till 2006
Apple is designing the chips with iNtel. not buying them, like DELL. All this assumptons is just speculation.
Windows Vista WILL NOT RUN ON A MACTEL MACHINE
Get it through your fscking goddamm cult influenced minds.
Damm I can’t beleive you all bought that line from Phil. “we won’t stop anyone from trying”
Can you just imagine if M$ spend a few billion dollars to make Vista run on Mactels and then Apple laughs it ass off and doesn’t allow it?
Apple was just hoping they do that. 😀
Your all fscking stupid a$$es if you beleive vista will run on MacTels
for cripes sake STOP CALLING IT MACTEL!
Its not MacBM now, not MacOrola.
Queeezie… I would like to see your works! Really really doubt that they are good when you say you find it no difference designing works using Mac and a Windoz box.
I also doubt that you can do great print job (probably you are only doing works for delivering on digital media) using Windoz…
And don’t tell me that when you use Windoz and a Mac, you can’t tell the difference moving around the mouse. I mean, just the feeling of using a mouse on a Mac and on a Windoz will already give you a very different HCI (human-computer-interaction) experience. Mac is much better.
mike k…
It sounds like its optional. Use your Mac for work and use the Windows bit for games.
Your all fscking stupid a$$es if you beleive vista will run on MacTels
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Oh right.. Windows Jaguar requires 4Ghz and 2GB of RAM.. thanks for reminding us.
“Two worlds will collide in 2006, producing the first systems capable of running both Windows and Mac OS.”
Actually, that’s not true. The PowerMac 6100 could run both.
The most exciting thing about the switch to Intel is the promise of next generation laptops. The G4 has to go.
As for dual boot, I would not buy Windows or give it any space on my hard drive but I would use something like WINE if it became available. OS X software developers and publishers must be supported for their efforts so that we do not end up with Apple branded computers running Windows software.
Hey MacANIMAL, are you fucking stupid. Microsoft doesn’t sell computers, so they don’t give a fucking crap if Vista runs on a Mac or not, stupid shit. If a Mac guy buys Windows Vista they make more money. And if the new Mac run VIsta, they still sell their computers. Think!!!
See ur work! Queeezie: “Queeezie… I would like to see your works! Really really doubt that they are good when you say you find it no difference designing works using Mac and a Windoz box.”
REPLY: There is no difference in my creativity or my style of work whether it is using Photoshop on a Mac or Windoz box. (But you obviously would not know about Photoshop or any other creative type software.)
See ur work! Queeezie: “I also doubt that you can do great print job (probably you are only doing works for delivering on digital media) using Windoz…”
REPLY: A Photoshop file or a animation from Maya looks the same whether it comes from a Mac or Windoz box. I can take the same .psd file and open it in a Mac or Windows version of Photoshop.
See ur work! Queeezie: “And don’t tell me that when you use Windoz and a Mac, you can’t tell the difference moving around the mouse. I mean, just the feeling of using a mouse on a Mac and on a Windoz will already give you a very different HCI (human-computer-interaction) experience. Mac is much better.”
REPLY: Who uses a mouse to draw with? I use graphic tablets to draw with. You are really showing your ignorance now.
And what does the clicking with a mouse have to do with creativity? How very dumb.
Ignorance can be a very dangerous thing Mr. “See ur work! Queeezie”.
>MDN spewed: We believe that Jobs considers Microsoft Windows’ dominance illegitimate, undeserved, and a severe hinderance to the promise of personal computers. Windows dulls creativity with its inherent medicocrity. We certainly believe that “the world’s” choice of Windows has been a huge mistake
Blah blah blah… BLAH… BLAH… BLAH!
Sounds like you’d like people to trade one monopolist for another… better the devil you know.
>MDN spewed: We believe that Jobs considers Microsoft Windows’ dominance illegitimate, undeserved, and a severe hinderance to the promise of personal computers. Windows dulls creativity with its inherent medicocrity. We certainly believe that “the world’s” choice of Windows has been a huge mistake
Blah blah blah… BLAH… BLAH… BLAH!
Sounds like you’d like people to trade one monopolist for another… better the devil you know.
>MDN spewed: We believe that Jobs considers Microsoft Windows’ dominance illegitimate, undeserved, and a severe hinderance to the promise of personal computers. Windows dulls creativity with its inherent medicocrity. We certainly believe that “the world’s” choice of Windows has been a huge mistake
Blah blah blah… BLAH… BLAH… BLAH!
Sounds like you’d like people to trade one monopolist for another… better the devil you know.
Yuri,
In contrast to your assertion, Red Box would be immensely complex and incredibly hard to pull off.
When Apple wrote the Mac OS 9 compatibility stuff for Mac OS X they had the original Mac OS 9 source code to work from. Even then it was difficult for them to pull it off. They of course have no source code for Windows.
The only hope of something akin to a Red Box is the WINE project. WINE however is not the highest quality software and is nowhere near as compatible with Windows as Apple managed with Classic and Carbon. Apple would be very unlikely to include WINE on the basis that it would not provide a sufficiently good user experience, even if they ploughed several man-years of work into it.
Just because two computers have the same CPU inside them it does not mean that they will run the same software.
Any and all speculation about the creation of “Red Box” is strictly limited to those that know nothing about software development.
Hard to hate Windows/Gates when the dude does stuff like this:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002594564_malaria31m.html
Hard to hate Windows/Gates when the dude does stuff like this:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002594564_malaria31m.html