“There’s a widespread notion that pornographers eagerly jump on new technology long before it goes mainstream, but with Apple Computer’s new video-playing iPod, the adult industry is largely staying away,” Larry Buhl reports for Wired News. “With a couple of exceptions, porno producers are in no hurry to provide stag movies for the iPod, thanks to fears of a public outcry and a government crackdown.”
Buhl reports, “Despite the industry’s caution, self-imposed safeguards might not keep parents’ groups and conservative organizations at bay indefinitely, said Tom Hymes, a spokesman for the Free Speech Coalition. ‘I think it’s possible these groups will advocate for laws such as filtering software like DRM (digital rights management) tools on the actual device,’ Hymes said. ‘That could act like a V-chip for the iPod.’ Apple did not respond to requests for information about parental controls on the video iPod.”
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Fire the guns!
MW: “hard” like…. hard movies.
man that one in the eye had to hurt.
no ones ever going to stop porn on the ipod, never ever. people have a choice, and what the hell is the difference between some guy reading a porno on the bus and having porn on his ipod?
how you going to stop that? well you cant, but ive never had it happen to me so, chill the hell out.
are kids going to get porn on their ipods… yes, have kids already got stashes of playboys?.. yes, internet connections…?..yes, gees its only porn, its not murder. its naked people trying to earn some rent money, whats wrong with that?
This reminds me that today I heard some chirping above and looked up to see two lorikeets humping. At first I didn’t believe it, but a more careful inspection showed that the fella’ on top was doin’ it slow and artistic-like … you know … it was more than a catholic action. I could almost imagine his expression. I looked away quickly, not wanting to disturb the couple.
Now it occurs to me that we are the only species that takes offense at seeing other members of our species coit, yet we consume vast funds buying artificial media to see it (porn). The western world in particular takes the lead in public manifestations of affection short of grabbing each other’s genitals. Clearly, something is warped here. You don’t see porn on the walls of the Altamira Caves, for example, though you’d half-expect them to do it in public then.
What then of kids living in farms watching, say, a bull and cow going at it? Why is that natural, as opposed to human coitus? Why does the couple next door doing it in front of an unveiled window occasionally look up in delight? Hmm …. I must think of this some more.
I have always wondered about americans and porn. It considered worse than the Plague, but firearms is OK. You have to protect yourselves. Everything else the same – 45000 americans would NOT be killed every year if you imposed the same firearm laws most European countries have. But that is a small price to pay for freedom I guess.
Porn on the other side undermines the american society. We must be willing to undergo any censorship to avoid that…
Can someone explain the rationale behind this?
What, no comments from iCrystal yet? She must be sleeping in this morning.
Norwegian — Unfortunately, it’s the same as with a lot of other things here in good old U.S.A.: Even though a MAJORITY might have no problem with something, a loud and obnoxious MINORITY raise their voices and our pusillanimous elected officials cower and sway. The powerful role of the organized church in American life (despite our proclaimed “separation”) also plays a significant and (IMHO) negative role.
It’s the same with sex as it is with other “naughty” subjects. Take simple nudity, for example. Survey after survey shows that roughly 75% of Americans have absolutely no problem with naturists having designated sections on public beaches in order to enjoy the sun and surf au naturel, as nature intended. But we have only a handful of such beaches and many of them are restricted to private lands.
Give the backwards Americans among us some time. They will eventually come around — or die out. Much of Europe definitely is more enlightened in these areas.
What’s the matter Rainy Day? Guilt getting the best of you today as you surf porn and thicken your file for judgement day? When you lack morals, just add a V-chip. After all, technology is the savior of mankind. Porn + iPod = Sickness. Bless America!!!!
Carthaginian
I’m sorry but that’s bollocks. Your ridiculous dismissal of other people’s concerns by quoting the lack of children “rampaging through the streets and humping everything in sight” is just absurd. I have never seen a murder and yet I know it goes on – in fact my home country of Scotland has just landed the “most violent developed country in the world” title according to the UN, apparently with 3 times the likelihood of assault of the supposedly gun crazy US.
Our government banned guns and more people ended up getting killed by them so keep your sophistry to yourself.
So your national record is worse in some areas than ours. Do you honestly think that legitimizing pornography is going to reduce teenage pregancies or sexual assaults or child abuse or spousal abuse or the incidence of sexually transmitted diseases? Don’t you think it’s more likely to make things worse.
For the record, of the countries you seem to admire,
-the Netherlands is about to legalize euthanising “disabled” newborns without parental consent,
-Europe has a huge problem with child pornography: Germany, Switzerland, Austria, the Netherlands, Norway, France, Belgium, Denmark, Luxembourg, Portugal, Ireland, Great Britain, and Sweden have all had major raids in recents years.
-Portugal, France, Italy, Austria, Netherlands, Belgium, Iceland, Luxembourg, Greece, Denmark, Poland, Germany, Ireland, Norway, Hungary, Malta, Cyprus, Finland, Croatia, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Bosnia, and Romania all have a higher rate of AIDS cases than the US
These are the nations whose example you want to follow?
Carthy, watch that “separation” thing – it isn’t even in the Constitution. It says “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” not “hey, Christians, shut up” as you would seem to wish it said.
the separation thing comes from a letter written by to ease the nerves of a group of Baptists who were worried about governments telling them which church to belong to, as had happened in Europe and was one of the reasons they left. It was only signed by Jefferson.
Evidently the MINORITY are attempting to become the MAJORITY by posting lots of “stay away from porn coz it’ll rot your brain, send you to hell, cause raping and pillaging…” type messages.
Get with the program. Ditch guns and embrace porn… or as I like to say Make Love Not War.
By the way, the iPod is bigger than Jesus.
to all you porn freaks out there, it is an addiction, and u all should take a look at http://www.xxxchurch.com…these so called “freedoms” of drinking, watching porn are actually enslaving us, imo…im not saying that im righteous or anything
Apple cannot and is not about to stop you from putting what you want on your iPod unless you get the content from the ITMS. The ITMS has parental controls to limit those types of options. But it is up the the parents to monitor what their kids have access to on the computers.
I still think americans as a society have given up their right to think and act for themselves and therefore invested an imbecilic government with the power to tell them what to do, and how to feel.
Fools have chosen to be guided by fools.
Careful quoting — I’m well aware of that, thanks. My reference was to the fact that such a separation has become a de facto standard upon which our fundamental tenets of liberty are (partially) based.
jesusfreak — Ummm, riiiiighhhhhhtttttttt. Despite just about every study ever done being unable to make a connection between pornography and any of the supposed “primary and secondary effects” of having access to it, like violence against women; rape; sexual abuse; etc. Too bad for you and people like you that there IS NO CAUSAL LINK! Even the despicable Meese Commission in the ’80s, which tried desperately to find a connection between porn and other societal “problems” (despite their supposed “unbiased” approach to the “research”), COULDN’T FIND ONE!
Get real.
Suddenly — Your protestations about never having seen something and yet knowing that it “goes on” are precisely the problem. Way to go, there. Everything is heresay, but . . . “uh, well, I know it MUST go on and porn MUST be bad because, well, I think it is and, gee, umm, everyone (should) think(s) like me. Right?”
We can spew statistics and figures back and forth at each other all day long, but I’m not sure what it would accomplish. Your “child porn” proclamations are specious at best.
http://www.crime-research.org/analytics/1453/
And go here, if you have the patience to read the voluminous data and the courage of your convictions (pun intended):
http://www.inquisition21.com/article7.html?&MMN_position=9:9
As for AIDS, anyone educated about the issue can attest (even those who could be called moral extremists) to the fact that AIDS can be contracted by means other than sex. But that’s besides the point, because what I’d REALLY like to hear you do is try and make the connection between pornography and AIDS. As if pornography is primarily responsible (or even partially responsible) for the constantly-fluctuating rates of AIDS infection.
But this is my favorite part of what you wrote:
“Do you honestly think that legitimizing pornography is going to reduce teenage pregancies or sexual assaults or child abuse or spousal abuse or the incidence of sexually transmitted diseases? Don’t you think it’s more likely to make things worse.”
NO! Because as a matter of FACT, it DOESN’T make “things” worse. Virtually every scientifically-conducted, peer-reviewed study ever done disputes your claim. Listen, I know that — to someone such as yourself — it must make you “feel” good to take a stand against porn, but the fact of the matter is that you’re on the wrong side of the issue — because you’re on the wrong side of the science.
And by the way, I never claimed a position one way or the other about gun ownership in America. But it’s interesting to note that — again, according to the historical RECORD — the “wild west” wasn’t very dangerous when you look at the numbers closely. As a matter of fact, it was usually a pretty safe place — precisely BECAUSE just about everyone was armed. Am I advocating that? No. But it kind of makes you think when you really search for the truth, instead of hiding behind locked doors in fear of some boogeyman that doesn’t really exist.
Hopefully you’ll consider some of this enlightening, at least. And perhaps you’ll re-examine your stance on some of these issues. But if not, you should know that me and others like me will fight your misguided morality as long as we can.
Best of luck to you.
DBS: I said nothing about banning. (Wouldn’t hurt my feelings if it was, though.) Contrary to what you suggest, porn is not currently banned. You can find it legally everywhere in the USA. It is not banned, just controlled.
My point is that civilized people in every civilized society have looked down on and discouraged porn and/or its equivalent behaviors. The alternative to “openly accepted” in my post is not banned necessarily, but discouraged by people who have morals and kept within legal limits.
Hey Distant Thunder- Morality is transitive. Don’t try and regulate mine.
F***cking dumbasses….
The only thing that is good for kids is good parenting.
Good parenting helps prevent use of drugs, good parenting stress sex EDUCATION and not head in the sand FUD abstinence ideology, good parenting does NOT, push for religion in schools (I have no issues against parents who involve their children in religion outside of school).
Good parenting is the real solution to most of the “problems” with children in western society.
But sadly due to sheer lazyness, and conviction good parenting has been replaced by TV and Video games, and is now going the way of the DODO.
so what is the next best thing?
Blame any new vehicle for its passengers.
cause really the content is the responsibility of the container isn’t it?
hugh the more it changes the more it stays the same.
“Your protestations about never having seen something and yet knowing that it “goes on” are precisely the problem. “
Sorry, are you saying I have to witness everything in the world before I’m allowed talk about it? I’ve never seen a plane crash so perhaps we shouldn’t bother with air safety until I do. Come to think of it I’ve never seen a tornado, I’ve never seen a tsunami, I’ve never seen a volcano erupt, I’ve never seen anyone inject themselves with drugs, I’ve never seen anyone actually manage to commit suicide although I have had to deal with people attempting it, I’ve never seen anyone die in a car crash, I’ve never seen any raped, I’ve never seen anyone shot, I’ve never seen a bridge collapse, I’ve never seen a bomb explode, I’ve never see anyone drown, I’ve never seen a train crash, I’ve never seen a wheel come off a car while it was driving,…
Do I need a peer-reviewed scientific study before I can speak on any of these matters? Scientific studies, peer-reviewed or otherwise are not immune from bias and personal opinion. Scientists are one of the worst groups in the world for ostracising people who question “the truth” and generally even the “decent” ones are only interested in where the next grant comes from so why rock the boat? As for social sciences, I’m sorry but they’re generally about as scientific as a magic 8-ball. You’ve seen the surveys in the press, 1000 people apparently speaking for a nation of millions is accurate to +/-3%. Bollocks. Those scientific surveys haven’t been working too well in elections lately have they?
I’m afraid we’re in the same ball-park as those surveys with social science studies, and that’s assuming no personal bias or leading questions. At best passing peer-review simply means the folks who reviewed it didn’t disagree with you, at worst it means they were too busy to bother reading it properly or want to approve it because it supports their views. I’ve worked in science for the last 17 years – 9 of them in research – and I can only encourage you not to believe everything you read in these studies because I’ve seen a whole host of crap that is completely biased and I’ve never met a researcher yet who didn’t talk about the rubbish he’d seen published. And what about the occassions when researchers are asked to suggest reviewers for their own proposals or the paper was actually rejected by other journals before being published? Not all science is crap but a lot of it is like the press, be careful what you take as “truth”.
You are right about statistics, which was my point in throwing them back at you.
As for links between pornography and AIDS, as I’m sure you are well aware treating that link in isolation would be meaningless because these things don’t happen in isolation, it is part of a much larger system. I was trying to give you a context for the countries you were saying were doing perfectly well with more open attitudes about pornography because you were treating your particular issue in isolation and being quite silly about it. If you introduce openness with regards to pornography (note I did not say sex, I am specifically talking about pornography) you encourage the acceptability or “goodness” of something that is basically all about getting a fix, largely through domination or the sense that you are basically “being naughty” by breaking some taboo. When those attitudes become prevalent in society how much regard do you think people will have for themselves, each other, and the consequences of their actions? When we are encouraged to think exclusively about pleasure we inevitably think less about others and about the consequences of our actions – porn movies don’t show people catching diseases and dying. They are all about getting off in ridiculous situations and regarding sexual pleasure and excitement as paramount.
If you can’t even see that *could* be damaging to individuals and society then I am worried, because you seem to be a well-intentioned guy and if the well-intentioned don’t care who knows what will be allowed to happen in the future. If you can see it as possible but don’t think it actually happens then I would return you to your own comment “about never having seen something and yet knowing [what] “goes on”” because you would be postulating there were no negative effects because you’ve never seen them. At that point I would have to ask, what things in today’s world are unacceptable to you? What would motivate you enough to say “Stop! That’s too far!”?
Likewise, I wish you well and hope I have given you something to think about.
carthagnian, u missed the point of my post…i didnt make any statements as to pornography and how it affects society ( though there certainly is one). I also agree with seabasstian in that parenting is key.
to all the porn watchers and people who go to strip clubs etc., could you stop doing that for the rest of your life even if you wanted to? someone else here said that if you took his porn away for even a week hed kill someone…youre either addicted or you arent. It controls you ..there is no casual porn watcher. you may think so, but there isnt. you cant stop on your own. The definition of an addiction is where the substance begins to control you, and you cannot stop it on your own
Suddenly Disturbed wrote:
“Sorry, are you saying I have to witness everything in the world before I’m allowed talk about it? I’ve never seen a plane crash so perhaps we shouldn’t bother with air safety until I do. Come to think of it I’ve never seen a tornado, I’ve never seen a tsunami, I’ve never seen a volcano erupt, I’ve never seen anyone inject themselves with drugs, I’ve never seen anyone actually manage to commit suicide although I have had to deal with people attempting it, I’ve never seen anyone die in a car crash, I’ve never seen any raped, I’ve never seen anyone shot, I’ve never seen a bridge collapse, I’ve never seen a bomb explode, I’ve never see anyone drown, I’ve never seen a train crash, I’ve never seen a wheel come off a car while it was driving,…”
Pardon me for butting in, but what a bunch of crap! Every association in your heavily-dramatized, pseudo-existential tirade has been “witnessed” and fully accepted by 100% of the able-minded people of the Earth; the association between STDs, teen pregnancies and child and/or spousal abuse and pornography has not.
I think you should feel free to say all you want on the topic, but please be aware when doing so any connections you assert regarding the above are based exclusively on your own creative belief system, and simultaneously in the presence of a complete absence of any objective empirical or experiential support of any kind. In other words, you should preface your remarks with something like: “Even though there is absolutely no evidence, and no one has ever been able to prove it, I believe…”.
FTR, I am not particularly a supporter of the porn industry, and recognize there is terrible abuse occurring on the production side in some cases. That certainly requires serious attention. However, I just don’t see any connection between viewing naked people or these oftentimes silly dramatizations of sexual acts and the sorts of crimes against society you list. Even for adolescents, even for young people. I find weapons, violence, and frankly the sort of irrational thought in your postings far, far more dangerous.
Regarding addiction, every single desirable or pleasurable item in existence has the ability to lead to some sort of psychological addiction. Are we to believe that all pleasant things should be banned just because some people feel like they need them? If not, then by using logical consistency, born shouldn’t be banned either.
i didnt say ban everything, i just say u should be smart enough to know to stay away from certain things, and i never said porn should be banned. people have a right to choose but there are just some things u should not get into