Another day, another Apple iPod+iTunes ‘killer’

“Apple’s version of the Maginot Line is the integration of the iTunes music store with the iPod and while people sincerely believe they can dethrone Apple from atop the electronic music market by just biding their time or making ever more silly mp3 players they are simply wrong, the only way to beat Apple in the electronic music field is by innovating something completely new and going around Apple’s carefully placed defenses,” Chris Seibold writes for Apple Matters.

“As it stands precious little innovation seems to be coming down the pipe but plenty of folks are sure Apple’s ride is over. Gene Munster, an analyst that usually has only the best things to say about Apple, was quoted by CNN as saying ‘Its inevitable that over time their market share declines.’ The reason Mr. Munster gives for this is that no particular product can dominate the consumer electronics market for more than two or three years. Going by past experience that is seemingly true, consumer electronics rarely hold such a large percentage of the market over such extended periods of time. Yet Mr. Munster forgets that the iPod is much more than just another consumer gadget people can get rid of on a whim. Once you couple the iPod with songs from the iTunes music store you’re stuck (short of EULA violating hacks) using the iPod as your mp3 player until something sufficiently compelling comes along to replace it,” Seibold writes.

Full article here.

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54 Comments

  1. “Once you couple the iPod with songs from the iTunes music store you’re stuck (short of EULA violating hacks) using the iPod as your mp3 player until something sufficiently compelling comes along to replace it.”

    And that is the reason why Steve Jobs has not licensed Fairplay for use by these other online stores and competing mp3 players. And rightfully so.

  2. i have a 2nd generation iPod that’s still working great. never had a problem with it. i will add to it or replace it with ANOTHER iPod. i will never consider a crappy sony kidney bean or whatever it is.

  3. John –

    I’m not sure this has anything to do with the closed-system topic, but surely, if you’ve spent any time in the Apple Discussion Forums, you know that your experience, while delightful, is not typical. Many many many people have had drastic failures of their iPod devices. Some again and again and again.

  4. As a player the iPod is very nice. I have the mini- but it does leave a lot to be desired in my opinion. I would like to be able to record directly from sources and of course I would like to be able to back up to any computer I want with a simple drag and drop. Yes yea I know there is DRM and music industries interest to protect BUT this interest existed when the cassette recorder was introduced and the Walkman had capabilities to record. Yes I also know the Ipod is digital and therefore it could make exact copies but there are player/recorders such as the IARiver and the archor out in the market, they are just not as well designed. My 2 cents.

  5. “The reason Mr. Munster gives for this is that no particular product can dominate the consumer electronics market for more than two or three years.”

    Oh yeah…

    – How long did Sony make the Walkman? (cassette & then CD)
    – How many Palm Pilots did they sell from 1997-2005?

    iPod & iTunes are more than a gadget fetish Mr. Seibold.
    It represents the first legal download package, the entire widget, the whole enchilada.

    Hardware + Software + Online Store.
    Each on their own is successful, together, they are the best on the market.

  6. >And that is the reason why Steve Jobs has not licensed Fairplay for use by these other online stores and competing mp3 players. And rightfully so

    Rightfully so? From an Apple business perspective, yes. But from a consumer’s perspective, being locked into a sole source standard can never be a good thing. The monopoly inevitable creates higher prices than necessary, and it also creates a significant hurdle for migrating to a better player that might come along. What’s good for Apple is not always what’s good for the user.

  7. All my iPods are still working just fine, I have a second generation for my car, a third generation to take all my msic with my, a iPod shuffle for those hazardous needs and of course a black/red U2 iPod which hardly comes out of it’s box except to fondle and say

    MY PREEECCCCIOOUSSS

  8. People who bitch about being locked into a sole source are really only saying, “We’d rather be open to crappy stuff than be inconvenienced by something that works really well.”

    I think you people long to be slaves to mediocre quality products so you can share everybody else’s experience.

  9. To PC Apologist:

    Sir, forums are for complaining about problems, not posting messages when things are fine. Your perception is skewed.

    I have 4 ipods and none of them have exhibited any problems. Even my daughter’s iPod mini that she dropped on the concrete is working fine.

    Apple would not have been able to keep selling millions of iPods if they all had serious flaws.

  10. “Right on the money. Sadly, refusal to interoperate conflicts with Apple’s much-touted lies about supporting the open source model.”

    dur-dur-dur….ooohhhh, i’m a socialist and think everything should be open and free like the air we breath. DIE HIPPY! DIE!

  11. “Rightfully so? From an Apple business perspective, yes.”

    Yes, rightfully so. The last time I checked anyway, Apple is still in business to make money, just like every other corporation on the planet. Steve’s first responsibility is to the stock holders, not to pacify those calling for “opening up” the iPod. Let’s try to have a little common business sense here people.

  12. To the socialist business experts out there…how exactly would it actually benefit Apple if they did totally open everything up? Would their market share increase seeing as how it’s already at 75-80%? Assuming they get a 10% royalty for licensing, how is 10% (licensing fees) of 90% (of the market) better than what they have now (which is 100% of 80% of the market)?

    All that would do is water down everything and flush away the monumental lead they have on the competition. And it would be the dumbest business decision in history. Luckily for Apple, Steve Jobs isn’t stupid.

  13. If people really want to use their iTMS songs in another way, just BURN A CD!

    Sorry, but it’s not that hard. If you to put in on your Jelly Bean thing, just reimport the CD to Winamp or whatever.

    It’s not that hard to get past the Fairplay. So everyone should stop whining about it.

  14. PC Apologist,

    I can’t assign a numerical figure to many, many, many. However, I currently own three and have owned 5 iPods overall. All worked fine except one, my shuffle – which worked fine after a firmware upgrade. In addition, I know of at least 25 other iPods users I encounter regularly, none complain. So my known ratio of bad iPods is 0:30 (1:30 if I didn’t know to upgrade firmware). Your ratio is many,many,many:~21 million.

    Remember only the squeaky wheel is squeaking, the others are riding along smooth as can be.

    What’s the typical failure rate of electronics? I read most of the message boards and I’d say from what I read the failure rate of the iPod is under 1% otherwise you’d see more in the boards and hear more in the news about problems – it is the “iPod” after all. Either way, reliability speaks for itself via success.

    – just my analysis. Happy iPod owner since 2002.

  15. Between myself, family and friends, I personally know 8 people that own iPods and none of them have ever had any significant issues with them at all. I’ve actually owned 3 of them myself over the last 3 years (due to upgrading, not failures of the iPods themselves) and none have ever had any problems either. Actually, when I have upgraded to a newer model, I was easily able to sell my old iPods on eBay for about 90% of what I originally paid for them at retail anyway.

  16. PC Apologist…I just enjoy people like you. You invent some statistic, which isn’t true. The problem with internet discussion sites is that only people with problems post. You hardly ever see a post that says, “Wow, everything is perfect. Just wanted to post that.”

    Out of the 20 million or so iPods, are you reading 1 million different posts? 100,000? Maybe 100? Or is it honestly 10-20 people?

    Typical PC user. Math is not a strong suite.

  17. I couldn’t help but notice that the writer described Apple’s formidable defenses against competitors as the Maginot Line. As any student of WWII will tell you, the Maginot crumbled faster than the French could flee. While some may attribute this merely to the perennial penchant for defeat that seems to be a common current throughout Gaulic military history, I’d suggest that the series of firmly entrenched positions was a form of defense more suited to the Great War than the blietzkrieg era. Perhaps this is a subtle closed-system critique, with the author hinting that while Apple is constructing an impressive redoubt at the moment, it could be flanked by an innovative competitor…

    That doesn’t quite work on a number of levels, but I fail to see why else the writer would employ an icon of obsolete technology to describe Apple’s position.

  18. My problem with all these “iPod killers” is that they get declared as such upon release. Sure, if down the line a machine comes along which works great and sells a huge number and genuinely beats the iPod then fair play to it but now it’s just getting boring.

  19. >’Gene Munster, an analyst that usually has only the best things to say about Apple, was quoted by CNN as saying ‘Its inevitable that over time their market share declines.’>

    What do expect from a munster?

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