“The Mac is fashionable again, but I still hear a lot of arguments from Windows users afraid to make the switch. Here are some of those contentions, accompanied by reality checks,” Al Fasoldt writes for The Syracuse Post-Standard.
Fasoldt answers the following questions and concerns:
• What would I do with all my files?
• But what would I DO with all my files?
• I’d have to learn something new!
• What about my printer?
• What about my digital camera?
• Will my five-button mouse will work with a new Mac?
• And my new 5.1-channel speakers?
• My wireless headphones?
• My card reader?
• My thumb drive?
• My digital camcorder?
Basically, the article details what its headline states, “Macs can work with, yes, everything.”
Full article here.
As an Apple Reseller it amazing the numbr of people who have ten or fifteen year old information about Apple computers. Maybe that info is perpetuated because there was little compatibility then.
MW= human
as in, to err is human
My first first post!
He fail to mention the iWork suite or AppleWorks, that way you don’t need any M$ crap on your fabulous Mac.
people ask their local IT geek at work these questions in passing. The IT geeks are, by default, trained to spew lies about the Mac because if you get a mac, you’ll not need them.
And if you don’t need them, then NO ONE will need them because what you don’t realize is that no one but you talks to them about computer stuff. If that stops, then they will be so lonley, and unemployed, that they will have to kill themselves.
either that, or they are lazy.
Either way, IT people are some of the most dead-weight employees on the planet for any company
I love it. whoever said the platform wars were over, spoke WAY too soon.
It’s ON!
“Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep”. That say’s it all.
MDN links to a blood sucking registration type site again.
GET THIS! WE DON”T WANT TO REGISTER
So stop linking to sites that are designed to troll us with hit counts.
Heck I can write better copy then this story.
My whole company are IT geeks.
We have a ‘Desktop-Support’ team and a ‘Macintosh-Desktop-Support’ team.
We also have a mac helpdesk (Only 7 or 8 people out of the 60 on the ‘real’ helpdesk, but still cool,) and a ‘mac engineering’ team (of one.)
It’s great hearing one of the ‘IT geeks’ tell the mac engineering guy what’s wrong with macintoshes. He trys to talk sense, but often he just ends up shaking his head and walking away.
I regret to inform “the other steve jobs” that not all IT geeks are trained to spew lies and are ignorant about the Mac.
Yes, many are ignorant, but not all of them (I for one am not ignorant of Macs).
Personally, I’d rather see Macs used all over – they’d actually give real IT staff* more time to attend to solving business problems & writing new (internally used) applications (i.e. actually allow us to do the jobs many of us were hired to do), rather than fixing trivial and ridiculous issues which shouldn’t really exist in the first place (as happens with Windows). The other half of the equation is the seemingly low level of competence of many (non-technical) staff… but the argument then becomes “Why should they have to know?” Indeed, I don’t have to know how a car motor works to drive one, yet this is seemingly what Windows expects my knowledge to be.
* real IT staff = people who actually know what they are doing with real computer science degrees to back them up vs dicks who go do vendor training, or a 3 month training course, or moved into I.T. from another discipline for the money.
“the other steve jobs”
I think your comments are a bit harsh, not all IT people/departments are anti-mac, by far the main reason for a lack mac’s in companies are because they are far too expensive to implement, and/or to make the switch, many mainstream packages are not available/supported on mac’s. And shelling out for a new office package for each machine (which is most likely to be MS Office) would cost a fortune.
Yes windows is a truly deressing state of affairs, but macs have been, and will continue to be (for a long time to come IMO) a computer for specialist use, and not for everyday mainstream desktop use.
hahaha.. Digital Camera..
if you actually got it to work on the PC, you’re gonna go into convulsions with your new iBook..
Step 1: Plug it in.
Step 2: Stop drooling, it just works.
James Hopkins: Reasses the situation in less than a years time. With the dawn of Intel Macs, there will no longer be the need to incur costs associated with software, as the new Macs will run x86 code and there fore all the Windows applications needed. And as for hardware upgrades, I should have thought a Mac mini will do very nicely, especially as it negates the costs of keyboards, mice and screen by allowing you to use all the old equipment (I mean this in the context they don’t pointlessly ship with those items; I know many WinTels also allow use of old equipment).
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I had one person tell me that Mac users aren’t technically adept.
I was like, excuse me?!?!?
I use both PC’s and Mac’s but I know Mac users are just as technically adept as PC users.
I think there are many who still have this hippy image of Apple. Thus thinking we’re a bunch of idiots.
I didn’t know idiots could invent the iPod and OS X.
Last Post!
(starting a new trend)
You don’t need to register, just click the link to say that you’re outside the US.
old man shut up.. they got the excerpt there for a reason..
MDN ignore the dead skin flapping..
The only problem we have with Apple at work is the Java handling ability for all the back end stuff of web pages, both from our Java coders who code for PC and all our clients first and then test the same code on a Mac for the studio design team. Some of it may come down to the individual user but a lot of it comes down to Apple’s ability to handle Java (not very well)
I got good advice from a mechanic what is the best car for me to buy.
Today, I drive a Hyundai Pony.
And I drive it to my dentist twice a year – just as he advised me to.
MW: I am not ‘waiting’ for the switchers to come. I don’t care. I know what’s best for ME. I drown out the naysayers with the voices in my head.
The only credible point you made was that many business applications are only written for Windows. I believe all your other points could be addressed simply by purchasing Macs when a new computer is needed anyway. And with respect to Windows-only applications, in most companies that’s only a reason to keep a few Windows machines around for those who need them–it’s rare that all/most employees in a company need Windows-only apps. In MOST companies, the average employee is just using Office, a browser and email.
RT
P.S. I have to say, however, as someone who has integrated Macs into a Windows server environment, it’s not quite as easy as this article claims–you may well need someone with Mac networking knowledge initially for a couple of hours (we did).
“Right. You’d have to learn something new. Such as where you click the close a window – on the left, not on the right as in Windows,” he said.
The report also stresses OS X’s built-in capability to run most popular USB printers, and its cutting-edge iPhoto software.
“Mac owners, it’s time to open the window and shout out in unison: ‘We love iPhoto! We love iPhoto.’ Windows users who haven’t seen or used iPhoto are due for a shock. Whatever camera you have, it just plain connects.”
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Huh? Mac users should tell people about Macs? Something they haven’t been doing for like 20 years??
Give me a break.. apologists/sadists keep PC’s not because the Mac users aren’t talking.. it’s because of Half Life (asking your 12 yr old for advice on PCs)
OldMan > Heck I can write better copy then this story.>
You probably can, but when you do, try to spell properly–it’s THAN–not then.
“Either way, IT people are some of the most dead-weight employees on the planet for any company”
I love this line. I work in IT and this couldn’t be more true. We are a complete waste of money and resources. It is unbelivable.
But this is for two reasons:
1 – we support Windows based machines, and well, we all understand why IT is needed there.
Secondly 90% of the working force is made up of complete and utter mornons who would need IT to wipe their asses for them if their mothers didn’t finally train them to do it themselves the first 5 years of their life.
But past that the mental midgets of the world need IT to help them clear paper jams or choose a new printer. Complete and utter morons.
If people weren’t such complete idiots there would be no need for IT, and then they would be forced to get rid of me, which would be great because I hate what I do but I just can’t justify walking away from 80,000+ dollars a year helping retards.
Please find a reason for me to go home. Use Macs and stop being such a collection of morons. Thanks!
java for mac is the worst. I really wish they would improve it.
But its a moot point anyways because java is no longer the “it” programming language of cross platform compatibility anyways.
“* real IT staff = people who actually know what they are doing with real computer science degrees to back them up vs dicks who go do vendor training, or a 3 month training course, or moved into I.T. from another discipline for the money.”
Computer Science degrees? Your kidding right? Degrees in CS are about as useful as the toilet paper I use to wipe my ass. We have people with CS degrees, we call them interns, because they haven’t a clue how to do anything in an actual prodcuction enviorment. They are looking around for the professor to hold their hand and explain the theory behind what they are doing. CS degree holders are some of the most non technical people on the planet and they usually end up in managerial training programs so they can be the asshole who has no clue how anything works but get all the credit for it running smoothly.
The only thing “real” about someone with a CS degree is they made a “real” big mistake in college.
is on ADC
Better, getting there.