RUMOR: Apple working on spreadsheet application called ‘Numbers’ for iWork

“Rumors that Apple Computer have been quietly developing its own spreadsheet solution gained a dab of credibility this week as sources pointed to a revealing company filing with the United States Patent and Trademark Office,” Katie Marsal reports for AppleInsider. “Just two days after requesting a trademark on the word ‘Mactel,’ which seemingly describes the convergence of Macintosh design with Intel hardware, Apple on June 8th filed for a standard character mark on the word ‘Numbers.'”

Marsal reports, “Described only vaguely by the filing as ‘computer software,’ Numbers may pertain to Apple’s recently released graphing calculator application. However, the company in recent months has filed for other marks that more accurately describe that application, such as ‘Graphulator’ and ‘Grapher’ — that latter of which is used in the shipping version. Instead, Numbers appears to conform nicely to the naming scheme used by Apple to describe the components of its relatively new iWork productivity suite. Consisting of only two applications, the iWork bundle includes presentation software called ‘Keynote’ and a word processor dubbed ‘Pages.'”

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42 Comments

  1. I agree with NewType – what’s needed for the vast bulk of the population is less not more. Faster not slower. More reliable not buggy. Easier to use not harder. Apple can add ‘Widgets” for Pages and Numbers to do just the jobs you need, not provide you with a massive globulous complexity of do-everything programming that Office is now. The Cheetah versus the Hippo is the way I see it.

  2. Newtype, I agree 100%. I worked with an accountant called ‘Agent’, nicknamed because he was always ‘on a mission’. Even though he excelled (no pun intended) at accountancy he HATED Excel – too many features that were useless to an accountant who needed SPEED and EFFICIENCY more than FEATURES that NOBODY WANTS.

    Not me speaking, an accountant with 25 years experience. And with a name like Agent, would you argue with him?

  3. “Wasn’t there some really cool NeXT speadsheet that used a completely different paradigm for spreadsheet calculations?”

    You’re thinking of Lotus Improv. It would be cool, I agree, to resurrect Improv.

    Of course, there’s always Mesa.

  4. Just two days after requesting a trademark on the word ‘Mactel,’ which seemingly describes the convergence of Macintosh design with Intel hardware, Apple on June 8th filed for a standard character mark on the word ‘Numbers.'”

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    hahahhaha Apple’s gonna say Mactel.. hilarious.. Win vs. Mac..

    the Numbers things sounds great!

    Again.. Apple’s card is ‘how can we do this cool stuff, without annoying MS too much’

    they are indeed the kings of ‘backup plans’

    expect this numbers thing to not be released unless MS threatens to pull office..

    which they might do, … if Windows has to compete against OS X on Intel systems

  5. Steve is gradually putting piece after piece in place of a Master Plan that is only now starting to be visible. It is really run to watch this – especially from the greener side of the fence ” width=”19″ height=”19″ alt=”wink” style=”border:0;” />

  6. Databases are tough…but what Apple really should do (and probably already is) is putting together an “Access killer” consisting of a kick-ass GUI wrapped around mySQL. There are a few barely passable front-ends to mySQL, all going for a good chunk of change–Apple would really have the chance to make OS X a great database OS without having to build a database engine, just use mySQL as the engine and concentrate on making it easy to use, administer, and better yet use mySQL as the engine with such a good GUI wrapped around it that people wouldn’t even know they were using mySQL until they wanted to add something on.

  7. This is a replacement for Appleworks you bozos!

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    Who’s the bozo.. everyone knows that.. the trick is to convince MS that iWork is benign.. while making it better and better every year.. until a ‘we’ll pull Office’ threat is not that scary..

    but you already knew that..

    Year of HD? Try Year of the Backup Plan

  8. I could easily imagine Apple incorporating hundreds of thousands of pre-set formulas for thousands of mathematical, scientific and educational communities; everything from subatomic formulas recently discovered at FermiLab to 7th grade physics formulas and including historical original formulas from Copernicus and Newton. Like Widgets and Automator, these formulas can be created, bundled as a file containing hundreds of individual formulas, swapped and downloaded for free. Apple would host a central database of complex formulas.

    Imagine viewing the sheets as a 3 dimensional rotatable cube, where highlighting, charting, graphing functions over time is made much easier, and where 4, 5, or 6 dimensional grids can be easily viewed and manipulated.

    How about flowchart-like lines indicating the cell relationships?
    How about using these lines for defining formulas? The formula appears large and bold, centered at the top, and you merely drag the cells you want into the various parts of the formula and then drag the resultant variable (the completed formula) into another cell to display the answer. This can be a very simple way to build complex relationships. Loops not only can be automatically detected, but these loops can be manipulated as a function of time; resulting in a modified formula incorporating time as a variable.

    Chart and graphs would not only be 3D, but could also produce animation where appropriate. In short, it would be Excel meets Mathematica using an OpenGL visual output.

    All of the charting and animation tasks that interfere with a scientist’s time and patience as they try to display complex interactions would be automatically handled, regardless if the scientists are 68 years old or 8 years old.

    Thank God there are a few people left on the planet that are not box-constrained-thinkers. Wouldn’t it be worth it to teach our kids to be dreamers and builders rather than subjecting them to the monotonous grind of page-after-page, chapter-after-chapter, of mind-numbing text books for over 13 years of their most creative moments in their life? What a very sad waste of youth. The result is an agonizingly slowly evolving civilization. Doesn’t it seem to be getting slower and slower? There were moon landings 60 years after powered flight began. What have we done with the 30 years since the moon landings?

  9. “Imagine viewing the sheets as a 3 dimensional rotatable cube, where highlighting, charting, graphing functions over time is made much easier, and where 4, 5, or 6 dimensional grids can be easily viewed and manipulated.”
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    Whoa, fella. Don’t eat the brown acid. You lost me on this one. “Three-dimensional” I understand. The fourth dimension is time. The Fifth Dimension is a Motown group. What the heck is the sixth dimension?

  10. Country Joe, you seem to base your universe upon 1800’s physics; “3+1” dimensions. As I am sure you are content to conduct your daily life in such a simplified universe, it is not the universe of everyone.

    A quick trip to Wikipedia’s description of “string theory” should bring you up to the 21st century…

    “The term ‘string theory’ properly refers to both the 26-dimensional bosonic string theories and to the 10-dimensional superstring theories discovered by adding supersymmetry. Nowadays, ‘string theory’ usually refers to the supersymmetric variant while the earlier is given its full name, ‘bosonic string theory’.”

    A more detailed description of extra dimensions packaged neatly in layman terms is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory#Extra_dimensions .

    But, none of these dimensions are relevant to the dimensions wihin a spreadsheet. Let’s say you have a 2 dimensional spreadsheet of your monthly expenses; i.e., day vs category. Now you have 12 of these sheets to comprise a whole year, so now you have a 3 dimensional spread sheet where any specific amount can be found via month-day-category. But, being that you have been doing this for awhile, you now have them bundles in groups of 12 for each year; this gives you a 4 dimensional spreadsheet. But we ain’t done yet, because now you have done such an excellent job of recordkeeping, you agreed to do your 5 brothers’ and 2 sisters’ spread sheets. Now each individual piece of data has a location that must be specified by its location; person by year by month by day by category; a 5 dimensional spreadsheet.

    This is a very simple example. In many fields, you can have hundreds of dimensions in a spreadsheet-like database, and they all are commonly compared to each other, often with complex formulas to describe their relationship and for possible future predictions or to model real world observations with mathematical representations.

    If all of this isn’t enough, Apple could even allow the user to apply neural nets as a type of data relationship between the cells (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_net ).

    But, we’re still not done exploring. If Apple does the same thing to spreadsheets like they do with Automator files and make them an independently running application, the average user will be able to construct their own complex mathematical programs with no previous knowledge of programming.

    If Apple does decide to bring spreadsheets into the realm of complex relationships via a simplified user interface, Microsoft’s Excel program will be left in the dust along with its uncle Longhorn.

    It’s quite amazing what can happen if you allow your own mind to be released from the confining 3+1 universe. This is why I laugh when the 3+1 dimensional minds on here try to tell the 10 dimensional thinkin’ engineers and marketing department of Apple how to do things.

  11. >> Now you have 12 of these sheets to comprise a whole year, so now you have a 3 dimensional spread sheet
    But, being that you have been doing this for awhile, you now have them bundles in groups of 12 for each year; this gives you a 4 dimensional spreadsheet

    I don’t want to be overly ciritical. You seem to be a man of vision, which is commendable, but what’s teh difference between dimensions 3 and 4 in your concept above? They seem both to be 12 monthly “budgets” grouped in 12 to form a year.

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