Bare Feats has posted various test results comparing “CPU Crunching” for a Dual G5/2.5GHz Power Mac vs. Dual G5/2.0GHz Power Mac vs. Dual Xeon 3.4GHz vs. Pentium 4 3GHz vs. 64 bit Athlon 2.2GHz = 3GB of 333MHz DDR which shows that the top G5 Power Mac (dual 2.5GHz) won every CPU intensive test except one.
Test results here.
Bare Feats explains, “Though the G5 Power Macs did well in the CPU tests, they were pretty much ‘smoked’ in the 3D GRAPHICS tests. Part of it as to do with how much effort developers put into optimizing (or re-writing) the game code to take advantage of the unique features of the G5 Power Macs. Quake 3 Arena, though considered obsolete by avid gamers, is a perfect example of the potential of the G5 Power Macs to excel in gaming.”
Test results here.
Yet, people get upset when Apple makes their fastest processor claims. But no one says anything when Napster claims to be the biggest brand in digital entertainment. Hypocrisy.
More gasoline. More blood.
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One of the biggest areas of improvement of Macs is GAMES, including availability of titles and performance. The last 3 people told me that Mac’s weaknesses in games is the primary reason is the #1 reason they will not consider a Mac. The benchmark tests on 3D graphics for the Mac are embarassing at best. The primitive one-button mouse Apple obstinately holds on to just adds salt to the wound for gaming
dual xeons are nuthin’ but crap.
dual opterons, on the other hand, are smokin’ setups.
but I’d take a dual G5 over both any day…
iMaki:
OS X runs multi-button configs natively now, so the single-button complaint is obsolete. But gamers will never like Macs because they wanna build their own boxes. Let ’em knock themselves out… some will get over it.
[air] = gamers stink up the air in a room anyhoo
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That’s pretty great overall, the next round of updates ought to be interesting for tests like these.
I am dissapointed to see that we’re always falling behind in gaming, but the major factor (keyword: FACTOR) that contributes to our lack of impressive gaming graphics is neglegence of developers.
I agree that the only *real* problem the Mac platform has now is the lack of games. I think with the Mini’s success, more games will come to the Mac. But also, I think Apple should offer a two button mouse as an option. THat would help…
Well, gaming is where apple is behind (and any serious CAD package too) but it’s the area where they can do the least to get even or ahead. Anything short of buying out ATI isn’t going to get them great graphics cards faster, and they won’t make their own games either….so what can apple do???
LOL… from a sales and psychological perspective, “lack of games” is a smokescreen, an objection to be over come. Very rarely is that a “true” reason not to make a decision.
Anticipating to NoMacForYou’s spin on this…
I bet Steve Jobs does not play computer games.
And that is why Apple has put no emphasis on gaming.
I wonder if he is too old.
If Steve was a big gamer you can bet that there would be some better/faster gaming macs out there.
Jobs too old?
Pssssh.
Jobsie’s only 50 next Thursday. Send him some electronic loving via virtual x’s and o’s.
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Whew!!!! That is embarassing. The Power Mac got smoked bad.
If you’re going to spend good money on a Pro machine to serve your gaming taste, you deserve the G5’s pitiful 3d execution. Chrissake, when are we going to move away from the teen gaming angst and see the G5PM as a work horse with gaming as a secondary or even tertiary capability?
Someone make Jobs sit down and play some real computer games on a Mac and then on one of the PCs tested.
He will be surely ashamed at the weak performance by the Mac.
Games are the one of the main reasons why the Apple will never get more market share.
Our neighbor has a PC. Was thinking of a Mac. His kids said no way. They got a new 3 GHz Peecee.
Games rule.
Amazing. Simply amazing. No, not the results. That the “Power”Mac got smoked was to be expected. What’s amazing is how Mac Nation can continually come up with such a steady, pathetic stream of excuses.
Face it, your over-priced over-heated over-hyped toys just aren’t up to the task!
When will you people wake up from your sorry little dream and join the 98.2% of the computing public who have it right???
Games? I’d rather have a Playstation… or a GameCube… or even (God forbid) an Xbox.
They’re all thousands of bones cheaper than any of those Wintel pretenders.
Frank obviously you don´t play games on your computer. And you have no children that do.
Computer (and video) games are big business. More money is spent each year on games than on movie tickets.
At any given moment there are over 300,000 people on line just playing one game – World of Warcraft.
Apple should have a gaming version computer in each of its lines.
Warcraft rules!
“At any given moment there are over 300,000 people on line just playing one game – World of Warcraft.”
What a very, very sad statement that is. An utter waste of humanity indeed.
Playstation: “Games? I’d rather have a Playstation… or a GameCube… or even (God forbid) an Xbox.”
You have not a clue and do not know what you talk about or are missing when you are ignorant of the gaming world that is happening with computers and the internet.
It´s like telling someone why should we have tv to watch the news when there is radio.
You are old and out of it Playstation.
A Nation of Losers: “What a very, very sad statement that is. An utter waste of humanity indeed.”
And yet you are on the web wasting your time surfing the web and writing ignorant statements. That is worthwhile???
And gaming is not nationwide, loser, it is worldwide! (Tip: the internet goes beyond the US borders.)
“…ou are ignorant of the gaming world that is happening…”
“The gaming world”?? Don’t you see how pathetic that sounds. This is the modern day Dungeons & Dragons… losers sit in dark corners playing their little games while the rest of the world passes them by. SAD.
You mal-developed little troglodytes can have your “gaming world” and jack each other off all day for all we care. Holy crap you are so fricking pathetic.
The gaming world indeed!
It’s not Apple’s fault that the games’ performance suck.
They were testing these games on 2.5 GHz Power Mac G5’s with GeForce 6800 Ultra’s or ATi Radeon X800 graphics cards. So it’s apparent they weren’t using cheap and/or low-end hardware.
The problem is with the game developers. They aren’t optimizing their games for Velocity Engine (aka AltiVec/VMX) or dual processors. Take a look at the Quake 3 test. Both G5’s beat all of the other systems – the exact same systems that beat the G5 in UT2004 and Halo. Why?
(Quote from website):
“Though the G5 Power Macs did well in the CPU tests, they were pretty much “smoked” in the 3D GRAPHICS tests. Part of it as to do with how much effort developers put into optimizing (or re-writing) the game code to take advantage of the unique features of the G5 Power Macs. Quake 3 Arena, though considered obsolete by avid gamers, is a perfect example of the potential of the G5 Power Macs to excel in gaming….”
[Shows a graph of G5 beating everything else]
“…One of the lead programmers at Id Software (Graeme Devine) took a personal interest in optimizing the Mac version to take advantage of the Power Mac’s Velocity Engine and Dual Processors.”
I can understand being disappointed by the G5’s gaming performance, but blaming Steve is immature as well as placing the blame on the wrong person. If you’re truly concerned, I’d suggest sending and email to Aspyr, MacPlay or MacSoft and letting them know how you feel.
Doesn’t mommy monitor your internet usage, you pathetic little whiners? Gaming on a Mac?
What a waste. Gaming in general is a sad little anti-social waste of time. Get your asses into therapy now because you know you’ll be there eventually.
Losers.