“Microsoft is on track to release the first full test version of the next major Windows release by the end of June, a Microsoft executive told CNET News.com on Monday. The company has said publicly that Beta 1 of Longhorn would arrive by the end of 2005, though internally, the company has been aiming for a release by midyear. The final version of Longhorn is slated for the second half of next year,” Ina Fried reports CNET News.
“‘There will be a beta 1 of Longhorn…happening in the first half of this year,’ John Montgomery, a director in Microsoft’s developer division, said during an interview at VSLive, a conference devoted to the company’s Visual Studio .Net toolkit. Microsoft released a developer preview version of Windows at the Professional Developers Conference in the fall of 2003 and updated that early code last spring,” Fried reports. “However, Longhorn has changed significantly since then, with Microsoft announcing changes in August affecting all three of the key pillars of Longhorn. Two of the components–a presentation engine called Avalon and a Web services architecture called Indigo–are being pulled out of the next Windows release so they can be offered for both Longhorn and the current generation of Windows operating systems. The third major component, a reworking of the Windows file system known as WinFS, has been delayed past Longhorn’s release and is expected to be in beta testing when Longhorn ships. It is unclear when WinFS will be integrated into Windows itself.”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Castrated in the womb, Longhorn doesn’t sound like it’s going to be a pretty picture upon arrival.
Let the unjustified rants begin!!!
Bill Gates has a small penis, or so I’ve been told.
Oh, just forget it, NoMacForYou took the wind from my sails. Now I just can’t come up with anything.
Why is Longhorn always categorized as an animal? Isnt it a Sports Bar at the foot of The Whistler Ski Resort?
It was a joke…I know all of you have already used longhorn, as it is just a “more” bloated” XP right? Or wait..ITS OS X.3
“Reaction” As in for every ACTION there is a REACTION.
Speaking of Microsoft and beta versions… is it just me, or has Microsoft released awfully many beta or pre-release versions of its software lately? Didn’t they open their music store in beta phase? And then this adware/anti-virus software… yes, releasing beta version of an operating system is competely diffenrent thing, but it doesn’t look good when all they can release is BETA something. Which, of course, gives Mac users something to rant about. 😀
You’re better off going to the Dubh Linn Gate pub when you get off the slopes…
Hm.
Tiger will be available in the first half of 2005.
Longhorn Beta 1 will be available in the first half of 2005.
It will be interesting to see who releases first. Of course, the theory is that Apple will release Tiger before Microsoft release Longhorn Beta because Microsoft will have to copy it. But I could see Microsoft trying to release it first to steal a little thunder from Tiger.
Yeah, they have been releasing more and more beta’s. The difference between todays beta and beta’s a year or two ago, is that today, they actually materialize into usable product, instead of being labeled as vaporware. Hey, at least they arent paper launching anything these days..
It’s XP with lipstick. Nothing more.
Now taking Bets: First Longhorn Virus predicted in June 2005.
Err… with all that butchering, what is even left? Sounds like this cow is not going to have a lot of meat. Plenty of bloated fat though, I’m sure…
NoMacForYou,
It must be a bitch being a Microsoft apologist.
Shitty job.
We all feel for ya buddy.
Did he really say ‘in the first half of 2005’? Isn’t that the exact same words Jobs used to describe when Tiger would be ready?
I reckon MS will try to steal Apple’s OSX release thunder, by taking some air time, but that everyone will compare the Windows beta to Tiger. It will be looked at as the big event.
And we all know how that one goes, don’t we?
Already posted this in the Fortune article thread, but I really need someone calming me down. So:
“Anyone notice this in the Fortune article?
“This spring, Apple will unveil Tiger, an update of its OS X operating system that, at $129 a pop, will generate hundreds of millions of dollars of high-profit sales.”
?
This spring? Is this just a mistake or does the writer have some kind of inside info?
I mean “spring” ends in what, April-May? Surely June can’t be counted as spring?
What is this???”
Jon, spring ends June 20. A Tiger release on or before that date is technically in “spring.”
Why does it seem that people are comparing a Beta 1 release Lomghorn to a Retail release of OS X????
Longhorn, schmonghorn…. EXCEPT…. by all reports Longhorn will require some pretty hot hardware and lots of ram to run….
Which means, Windows users running older equipment will be faced with the choice of having to upgrade their hardware – and will of course also look at the Mac.
Mac wins.
M$ is going to get the crap kicked out of them if they release a beta this spring. It will, indeed, be compared to 10.4 which is a very mature and well designed OS. The comparison will be very bad and will really hurt their chances of a good rollout of final product in 2006. People will not cut Longhorn any slack just like they didn’t cut 10.0 any slack; other than the true fanatics that is.
“However, Longhorn has changed significantly since then,…”
Yeah, after they saw all the new stuff in OSX and had to change their copying. Before Longhorn was going to be a knockoff of OS9…
Longhorn will be like taking putty and spray paint and trying to make a 2010 Ferrari out of a 1970s Ford Pinto…
NoMacForYou,
The rants are justified. Isn’t longhorn MS’s most over-promised and under-delivered product EVER? When a corporation like MS manages to grunt out a pile of shit the size of longhorn, they’ve earned the rants.
Anyway longhorn has been in beta for a while now anyway. It’s called Windows XP. We’ll see if MS can even manage to rename everything correctly. My money is on them fscking that up too.
I wonder if the decision to release the beta in june will be the same month as tiger…
IF so, Microsoft is gonna try to compete with press with Apple.
This is more than a co-incidence – I reckon Apple should release Tiger in May just to piss off Microshit.
you know that it’ll be in beta for about a year and a half. And will still have “quirks” in the final release.
NoMacForYou posted: “I know all of you have already used longhorn, as it is just a “more” bloated” XP right? Or wait..ITS OS X.3″
Okay, NoMacForYou, you’ve made a rather interesting comment there, that by a not-so-long leap of logic implies something rather unjustified itself, IMO. So, I invite you to justify that remark, while making the logic you implied more obvious.
So here’s the question: Just HOW is OS X 10.3 “more” bloated than XP or even the beta version of longhorn? Hmmm?
DaveT: Why does it seem that people are comparing a Beta 1 release Lomghorn to a Retail release of OS X????
Glick7: “[…] by all reports Longhorn will require some pretty hot hardware and lots of ram to run.”
Yes, but you see, this is even better for the Windows apologists.
“This sucks compared to Tiger” — Well, it’s only Beta 1. OS X Preview wasn’t all that hot, either.
“It’s slow compared to Tiger!” — Well, it hasn’t been optimized yet. I’m sure that, by the time Microsoft is done, it will run like a rocket on your Centrino.
In other words, any place where Longhorn is better than Mac OS X, the Windows users can trumpet. Everywhere else, where it loses, they can just say, “Well, yeah, but it’s beta.”
Winston,
That’s a real shame.
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I’ve always thought of June as a really “summery-month”. Well, suppose it depends a bit on where you live also..
Not the official definition of spring/summer of course, but the perception of what’s what….
Er… what am I doing?
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I guess I’m just disappointed if we won’t see Tiger in what I like to think of as “spring”!
Thanks for the clarification, though.
Mac OS X Panther is here now. I am using it right now. Schlonghorn is still nothing more than a stain in Billy’s pants. Until it actually scrapes itself off and actually grows into something USEFUL, there’s really no debate here.