“A free trial of the controversial CherryOS Mac emulator will be available for download Nov. 25, according to a statement on Maui X-Stream’s website. ‘As a direct result of the overwhelming response to our Oct. 12 announcement, and in order to provide current and future customers with the timely service and attention such high-volume demand requires, MXS has chosen to extend the beta development for CherryOS,’ the site says,” Leander Kahney reports for Wired News.
“It continues: ‘MXS will provide a free trial download of the CherryOS software, in addition to the purchase download on Nov. 25, 2004.’ According to Maui X-Stream, CherryOS will allow Mac OS X to run on Windows XP machines with unprecedented ease and speed. But the software has been shrouded in controversy: Many believe it is a rip-off of PearPC, an open-source Mac emulator that isn’t particularly fast or easy to use,” Kahney reports.
“Kryeziu said he will be vindicated Nov. 25. ‘We would have just walked away if everything they say about us is true, if it is a scam,’ he said. ‘We’re going to release a product, but we’ve set the date back right now.’ He added, ‘On the 25th it’s going to live up to its promise,'” Kahney reports.
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Run Mac OS X on a Windows PC with CherryOS emulator? – October 13, 2004
Any connection between the date of release (11/25) and Thanksgiving? Is this a turkey being delievered as a joke? Or a turkey in search of window dressing?
We shall see….. we shall see…..
I’m sorry, no PC can emulate this:
http://g5support.com/group/viewtopic.php?t=1628
Who cares?? I mean, really.
The only people who would be interested in this are Windoze users who, deep down inside, *want* to have have a Mac, but are too damn cheap or stingey to actually invest in a totally Apple solution.
I know, I know, they may have spent a lot of money on software to run on their PC’s, yadda, yadda. I have spent many thousands of dollars on computer hardware & software, but there have been a couple of times in which I just had resign myself to the fact that I needed to move on: Selling my Amiga 1200 and moving from Mac OS9 to OS X.
Apple made it a lot easier to do the latter, but I still had a lot of software to replace. Furthermore, there will probably come a day when we will have to have nothing less than a G5 processor in order to use any Apple software. Is it a pain in the ass? Only if we expect to be able to hold onto our current hardware forever.
My general rule of thumb: update software as often as possible and get new hardware about every 5 years.
Is the CherryOS a possible way to help Windoze users move from the Dark Side? Maybe. But as MDN has so very often stated, it would probably be a lot less headache for those folks to simply, ‘add a Mac to their computing arsenal’.
And with the new iBooks (starting at under $1 grand) and the new iMac G5’s, Windoze users, who really want the Mac experience, should really consider adding one of these to their household instead of going the CherryOS route.
Just my 2 cents.
Well, this is what I just learned yesterday at the lab:
There are a couple of departments were Macs are not allowed. The head would simply NOT sign any purchasing order for an Apple computers.
You know, some head departments are as well blockheads.
So, these two colleagues of mine do what? Justify the order of the most powerful laptop PC they could configure, the blockhead signs, and what you see on their screens? OS X ! They have installed PearPC, and VMWare and checking which is faster (seems they are going with VMWare). As soon as CherryOS comes out they’ll try that too.
The rumor is spreading a bit and it is hilarious.
AND,,, they are not the first – from what I heard – to have done just that. There are PCs at the lab running OS X. Windows is there for when the head… sorry, the blockheads, are expected to walk in.
Incidentally, this is similar to the time when another blockhead was fighting the same war against Linux at the lab. People were massively dual booting and use Windows only in the presence of the casual blockhead. Till the time when the situation exploded and Linux entered through the main door.
I suspect the same will happen with OS X. Similar paths, similar wars, similar blockheads along the road.
Seahawk,
Yeah, I see what you mean. I was thinking only of the general public and neglecting to think of ‘institutional/business’ users.
That’s a pretty neat trick by your colleagues, though. Using Mac OS on a PC because the department ‘head’ won’t approve Apple purchases. Nice workaround. I’m glad that I don’t have to deal with that kind of bureaucratic B.S.
Maybe your colleagues could share some info about the Virginia Tech project with their supervisor. I’m sure that you guys wouldn’t mind having a few Xserves to play with, huh?
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Why the delay of a month??
They said it was ready to go Oct 12. if it wasn’t ready why did they say it was????
My bet is that variable names suddenly change in a hurry. I also bet they don’t pass on the source code to the PearPC guys like they have said they would until after it’s released.
One of the lead guys is known for steal GPL software and passing it off as his own.
I thnik this is great!
I don’t gice a dam whether MAC OSX is running on an APPLE or a DELL or whatever – the main thing is that they are NOT USING WINDOWS!!!
This means APPLEs installed user base will go through the roof and so will their global market share!!!
Sod WINDOWS!
My Mac friend uses Virtual PC and I will use Cherry OS if it performs the opposite of Virtual PC. If it does what it claims, I’ll be the first in line, as will many, many, many others.
If it works, it will fly off the shelves. Watch.
Fandango: we actually do have a couple Xserve G5. Some departments/groups allow their staff buying from Apple. My group, for example, is 2 PC shy of being Mac only (now 6 Macs 2 PCs while 2 years ago I was the lone star Mac). Nice view now at meetings
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I/we fought many battles and have been through them successfully since OS X was first release.
There are the last bastions of resistance but I’d say “all resistance is futile”: they will be assimilated.
Next month there will be a couple more high-management level battles to fight. The higher they are, the less – apparently – they know about OS X and swear by the Distortion Reality field from Redmont.
The top brass of the IT division is the hardest. A real Windows nuts and the most ignorant about OS X. He even gulps the idiocy of ‘security via obscurity’ which to me is the tell-tale sign of low IQ, especially on someone who should know better.
It is unfortunate that some head position are taken up because of age and not because of skills: it show perfectly in this case.
“…The top brass of the IT division is the hardest. A real Windows nuts and the most ignorant about OS X. He even gulps the idiocy of ‘security via obscurity’ which to me is the tell-tale sign of low IQ, especially on someone who should know better.
It is unfortunate that some head position are taken up because of age and not because of skills: it show perfectly in this case…”
Hey watch that age discrimination crap.
Some of us IT Directors are pushing 50 and we’ve been pushing Macs for the past 20 years. You’d be surprised the level of politics such a decision can generate. You think it’s just the IT guy, but that person has political enemies in the company that are just waiting for him to screw up. Let’s say he put in a bunch of Macs. The first hiccup, his enemies would be all over him claiming that he was wasting company $$$ puting in “non-standard” hardware, etc. It’s never just as simple as putting in the computer.
You have to go throughout the company and pull together a consensus, so that no one blames the decision because they all participated in it.
Malware for OSX???
Oh say it isnt so…. Here’s the low-down…
Remember, you heard it here first..
This is not a malware package for OSX. It is just a script that if it is run as root will do a variety of unpleasant things to your Mac. Since all Macs come with root disabled, the only way for this to work is to download it and run it as su and type your password in. This is more of a trojan horse than malware as it does not start up by itself and has no way of interfacing directly with any applications as in the case of IE and Outlook on Windows.
As many have said before: Nothing to see here…move along.
“I don’t gice a dam whether MAC OSX is running on an APPLE or a DELL or whatever – the main thing is that they are NOT USING WINDOWS!!!
This means APPLEs installed user base will go through the roof and so will their global market share!!!”
No, it will not and this is not good for Apple! Why is it so difficult to understand that Apple is a HARDWARE company? The OS and software are the lure to buy the machine. If any vanilla no-name PC can run OS X and iLife etc., even if it’s not as fast and stable as an Apple machine, no one would buy a Mac.
I’m not worried about CherryOS, by the way. The claim that it will run at 80% native speed sounds really bogus, and there is no way to emulate AltiVec. Also, this guy sounds like fraud to me as well, and there is strong suspicion that he simply repackaged the code for PearPC, which he denies. Come November 25th, we’ll see.
Greg George..
Anything which has the potential to cause damage, no matter how its introduced… can be considered as a type of malware…
And anything of this nature which affects the users of OSX should be published widely, so that people can take the necessary precautions…
After all.. would you want this “script” to affect you without your knowledge ??
Information is power !
Thelonius,
I do not care about the age, really, but if the IT head repeats the usual crap that Winblows trolls write on web sites, to justify his aversion from Macs, then it is there not because he knows what to do but because nobody has been ever fired for choosing Windows and because he reached the age to be the head of the department.
I recognize a OS warmonger a mile away. It has nothing to do with age, just with being a blockhead. Incidentally – the one I refer to – got his position 3 years before retirement. 2 more years to go. I reiterate: he shows is there not the head because of skill but because of age. His knowledge of Macs stops at OS 8 and for him “Windows has no real security problems, just patch” – “OS X will not be better” – “security by obscurity” – and he believes the main reason to get a Mac is because “they are sexy”.
Another pearl: “64-bit. No need to push or try things out now. Intel says 64-bit architecture will not be anything noticeable till 2007. We can wait.”
The blockhead does not realize that Intel WANTS you to believe that because THEY are not ready to deliver. AMD is there, G5 is there and Tiger around the corner.
To me all this says “IDIOT”. You personally might be pushing for the Mac and I am glad to hear that. He is trying to do the same, only he is trying to push the Mac out of sight.
There are already close to 1000 Macs already. The consensus is there, he is simply blocking the all process. OS X is requested by all major developers groups. He had a plan to kill the platform in 2002 that has been disrupted by OS X. If still with OS 9 there would be no Mac at the lab by now.
To me he is simply buying time to his retirement. He has no idea what OS X is, does not want to know, does not want to risk on something he does not know, wants to get to retirement age without hassles: “These developers pushing for OS X are just such a nuisance: GO AWAY”
To him we are a pain in the ass. To us he is the ass…hole.
If it’s for real, why don’t they release the alpha now?
So what if it’s unstable or incomplete. When the entire industry is calling your bluff, show your hand. Another month of polishing won’t make that big of a difference to what they already have.
-sip
OS X running on top of Windoze is still Windoze. You’ll still have to deal with all the Windoze issues. I guess this will give PC users access to iLife? That’s about the only reason to emulate OS X and not just run the full blown OS.
macman: think about VirtualPC reversed. Of course you have access to iLife. You install OS X from the actual DVD from Apple and you have it as on a Mac, only lot slower. Sure, there are other weaknesses as treating peripherals correctly and plug&play; but for things like installing iLife (or other OS X applications) there is no problem.
It is NOT emulating OS X. It IS OS X running on an emulated PowerPC environment.
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I am talking about VMWare here, as it is what my colleagues have shown me. It is weird to see OS X on a HP laptop. Slower but it is OS X and from the Apple DVD – we have over 500 site-wide licenses.
Kinda running OS X an an old Mac G3.
I’m a longtime Mac fan, but I need to use ArcGIS and Surfer – which only works with Windoze (Virtual PC ain’t fast enough…)
Despite what Mr. Fandango suggests, I have a real need for Windoze. If Cherryos works, there will be sparks flying off my heels to buy it.