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Why the hell can’t they sell a matching keyboard and mouse with it. It’s really the only reason I haven’t bought it yet since I want to wait till it’s included that way.
Dave
This is great! Now I can edit movies with the G5 power, on duel 30 in displays, and at least the computer will be cheap.
I have ben waiting for something like this.
Now if I can just convince my dad that I need it.
“Oh, and produce a 17″ LCD while you are at it. Not everyone who wants to buy from Apple can afford a 20″.”
Y’know, sometimes this attitude annoys me.
Personally, I don’t like wide-screen. Part of my “window organization scheme” relies on height. I used to have a 1600 x 1200 CRT. When I went with LCD, all I could find from Apple at a price that I could afford was 1600 x 1024. At the time, the 23″, which had the vertical resolution I wanted, was $3000.
Well, I could have sat around and whined that Apple didn’t make a monitor that I liked and that they should (a) make the monitor I want because I know there are thousands of people like me who will refuse to buy Macintoshes because the Apple monitors don’t have the vertical resolution of a CRT and (b) they should sell me this monitor at hundreds of dollars less than what everyone else sells their monitors for. But I didn’t. I went out and bought a Sony X-202 for about the same price as the Apple 20″–but it had the vertical resolution that I like.
I’ve seen lots of inexpensive 17″ LCDs. Go buy one. Make sure it has DVI. Plug it into your Mac. Problem solved.
You wrote this Peter:
“I’ve seen lots of inexpensive 17″ LCDs. Go buy one. Make sure it has DVI. Plug it into your Mac. Problem solved.”
I agree.
There are even the relatively inexpensive 19″ and 20″ LCDs from Formac, which are well-designed and have done very well in tests.
They’re often sold in Apple shops here in Germany and they look great with Macs.
Have a look: http://www.formac.com/p_bin/
“Why the hell can’t they sell a matching keyboard and mouse with it.”
Totally agree there Dave.They’ve presented us with a ‘one white keyboard fits all’ scenerio which, of course, it doesnt.
For a company who prides itself on industrial design and asthetics it seems like a no brainer to me.
Now this is what I was looking forward to seeing!
I love the iMac G5, but I don’t like not being able to upgrade it much. You know what I mean: video card, extra internal HD. Plus I prefer a drive with a tray better than a slot-loading drive. I just really don’t like the idea of getting a really nice 17in screen and then having to throw it out once you upgrade to a new system.
I’m probly going to get a PowerMac G5 and a big CRT or non-Apple LCD.
“Personally, I don’t like wide-screen. Part of my “window organization scheme” relies on height. I used to have a 1600 x 1200 CRT. When I went with LCD, all I could find from Apple at a price that I could afford was 1600 x 1024. At the time, the 23″, which had the vertical resolution I wanted, was $3000.”
I love it when people say this, but then omit the last part..
“….since I’m in the minority I can see why Apple doesn’t appeal to my needs”
You, of course, are the EXCEPTION THAT PROVES THE RULE..
You want a vertical monitor?!
Great.. go get one custom built.. who knows..
What some of these people really want is a Mac emblem on the same kind of cheap PC they get at their local PC 99� store and have it run OSX because they do not now— nor will they ever—get the picture (nor will they ever understand why they dont get it).
There will always be people who strive for the better things in life and those who will take anything handed to them and call it better because it’s cheap.
Hot Draw said:
“There will always be people who strive for the better things in life and those who will take anything handed to them and call it better because it’s cheap.”
Yeah, unfortunately, 19 out of 20 PC buyers fall into this description, including most of the people I know. When the major issue is he overall price point, it gets discouraging trying to convince these people to switch and have price be the issue. I don’t think people are expecting Apple to produce a $500 Mac, but imagine what Apple could sell the G5 iMacs for if they stuck the components in a mini tower case and made it headless? Those 17 and 20″ LCD displays make up a majority of the price of the machine. Most people who are conservative–not necessarilly cheap–will have a hard time convincing themselves (let alone their spouses) that they should get rid of their perfectly good 19″ monitor or 17″ LCD display that they got with their Dell or HP and buy an iMac. I really do think Apple could make a headless machine with the same specs as the current iMac G5 that would sell like crazy and still make Apple a good buck. It would be priced to make the all in one a better value, but for those who can’t come to grips with having a disposable LCD display and/or have an existing monitor already, it would be the perfect switcher machine.
As for the keyboard issue, I agree, what is up with the white plastic keyboard and mouse matched up with a stainless steel tower and LCD bezel???
Andy C.
Andy C.!
I agree with every word you write.
Why don’t Apple do this? It’s so obvious. I sometimes fear that his Steveness has ‘a thing’ about this – as he does with the one-button mouse.
He just wont change his mind about it, whatever his ‘advisors’ say.
Very simple, Charko:
1. A headless G5 + separate monitor would cost more to produce than the iMac (two power supplies, two cases, additional cabling and connectors). Don’t fool yourself: the headless Mac would be a lot higher priced than the difference between an iMac and a Cinema Display.
2. Pro-quality LCD monitors are still a fairly high-margin product; PCs are just about zero margin, thanks to Dell’s eternal price war. By not selling new users a monitor with their Mac, Apple will be giving away 60 percent of the retail value of the sale and probably 90 percent of the profit. I’m sure their market researchers have run the numbers and concluded that increased volume would be unlikely to make up for the loss of profit on each unit. (TI made that mistake in 1983, and lost a billion dollars before abandoning the low-end computer market. Steve Jobs remembers: he was running Apple then, too.)
If you were the man in the mock turtleneck, would you rather make a profit selling quality goods at high prices, or lose money selling junk for cheap? Seems like a no-brainer to me.